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I heard that the league is discontinuing the policy of testing vaxxed, asymptomatic players bout time they stopped that ridiculous protocol

just the kind Andy loves

He 'had a down year' because Wilson and Njigba had absolute KILLER seasons. There's only so many balls to throw around. This could work in our favor to have him available. If Olave plays in the Rose bowl, he'll likely break 1000 yds for the season. Dude is a std... love to see him in a Chiefs uni. He is the all-time TD leader for OSU receivers surpassing a lot of greats ie Carter, Galloway, Ginn Jr, Boston and Mike Thomas Good description. Jerry Rice was not fast.

I'll say one thing tho... never would have expected Creed to be an absolute STUD so freaking quick. Grand slam home run by Veach

only 6 teams in the NFC have winning records. only 4 teams in the AFC have losing records.

hear hear

You pretty much repeated my points, other than on pass-pro. I don't have NFL GamePass but I do have a Holiday Inn Express next to where I work. I agree that many of Patrick's issues lie with players not executing, be it not holding on to 'catchable' balls, fumbling at the wrong time, or not getting into their routes quickly. That has cost us big time, way more than Patrick being a little off. It's VERY clear, at least to me, he's been pressing. The ball he doinked off of Kelce's shoulder was classic pressing. Same with the ball he buried on a wide open Hardman at the goal line. (of course, I'd have to agree with you that Hardman would have needed to actually CATCH the ball, but the point is made) On pass pro, we're going to agree to disagree. It seems Patrick has way less time in the pocket this year. I don't have all those fancy coach's replays that give you stats replays, but I do know the Chiefs are the least-blitzed team in the NFL. That means he's getting pressure from a 4 man rush... which allows secondaries to stay 2-high and allow their LBs to stay in their zones. Normally, Patrick would pick that apart, because both Kelce and Hill are great at freestyling 'after the route'. But we've seen a lot less of that this year. Our drives don't seem as consistent. We're still scoring ok... 27.5 pts per game is pretty good. (Thank you raiders) But in 2018 we were at 34.8 ppg. IMO our lack of ability to consistently run the ball hurts, allowing teams to pressure with just 4 down linemen. Since Patrick has been sacked 25 times, the most in 4 seasons, without a lot of blitzes... it tells me our OL might not be doing the same job as previous years. Totally agree on his deeper drops in the pocket... sometimes he gets too far back allowing DEs to simply outrun our tackles. I'm not saying Patrick is 'struggling'. Far from it. I mean we're in first fucking place. If Cousins had the Vikes in first place, they'd rename Minneapolis after him. But Patrick has definitely shown signs of forcing shit because he's been under pressure, or because he FEELS under pressure. A lot. Or, I could be 100% wrong. I mean, Detroit beat Arizona... so miracles can happen.

Oh, we'll do our best... rest assured.

Guess it depends on the definition of 'poorly.' If it was Kirk Cousins, Thursday night was a career game. Gonna vent here. Expectations on Patrick Mahomes are top-level. Might not be fair, but he's earned it these last three years. This year he's been off. He hasn't been himself (until 4th Q Thursday) nor touched the bar that he himself has set. It's not a slam on PM to acknowledge this. Even he has admitted it. I've said before it looks like he's pressing. My uninformed take is that since the SB last year, he's seemed a bit rattled... maybe because of inconsistent pass-pro. When defenses go 2 high, and when the OL isn't giving him time to scan and utilize his weapons, no QB will thrive. So what does he do? He opts for less-risky throws to avoid the INT... by throwing low and away from the coverage ie that short pass to Travis Thursday night that fell incomplete. That makes it look worse, when in reality he's doing the right thing... like the all-pro he is. Seems like it's taken Andy a while to adjust... but has it? I mean, we like have the 3rd or 4th toughest schedule in the NFL to date, we have the best record, and for the first 7 games we played like shit... certainly not to potential. The 4th quarter in LA was amazing... the PM performance we have all come to love and (perhaps unfairly) expect. This kind of game is a huge confidence-builder... on both sides of the ball. We saw Patrick's reaction after the 2-point conversion... it was just like his reaction after the go-ahead touchdown in the '19 playoffs vs Houston. I keep telling myself he's getting back his mojo... and he is. Every game he's looking like the Patrick from the last few seasons. The key here is the team still believes in him, and he's definitely got the fire. Lastly, and I never thought I'd say this after the 1st 7 weeks, is that we are in 1st place because of our defense. When we have both Jones and Clark healthy and on the field, it is a completely different team. With our young stud LBs getting a season of reps under their belts, it has completely turned this defense around. When healthy and on the field, our D can win games for us. Who would have thought?

Nope... he never folded. Dude's a true competitor. With a gun to compete.

edelman still gives me nightmares dammit

He has handled it like a champion no doubt. But he's also shown signs of being human, which is a good thing. Why? He has been pressing... badly... for pretty much this entire season. understandable, because his pass pro has been less than stellar he's also missed an unusual amount of throws to open receivers he would hit in stride in previous seasons he's also not seeing the entire field like in the past... at times not noticing wide open guys and sometimes he pushes his throws uncharacteristically... ie the one at the goal line he dirted because he rushed it without the laces, or the one he doinked off kelce's shoulder pad out in the flat all that stuff is on Patrick yet, all that stuff aside, if he can have bad days (let's be honest, he has) and STILL come from behind to win, that gives the team much more confidence... everyone plays better, everyone tries harder when they know they're always in the game

t'would be great but we don't have the cash for can'tguardmike

That's the kind of thing that can wear down a defense... and also help take the pressure off PM

amen

Burton adds that extra dimension to the jumbo package... the dude can block, he can run, and he can catch the ball out of the backfield after a play-action... I mean that is one hell of a tool that should be utilized more IMO hell he could even go in motion and wildcat... a la Kelce and Bell going directly under center Andy needs to stay creative because it's those type of plays that can get us out to a quick lead

Where does Gronk sit in all this? Seems like that guy has been around forever

We picked up the mistake right away... once we saw who posted it there was no need to explain

technically, the way the defenses were playing, whomever won the toss won the game. so Ingram did win it by choosing tails. Reminded me of the 2019 AFC championship vs NE. The coin chose the winner.

Is it just me or did anyone notice Orlando Brown jumping slightly ahead of Creed's snap? Seemed like 4 or 5 times. And where the hell has Michael Burton been? This dude is a hell of a weapon. Love to see him get more touches...

Most NFL defenses can stop the run if they commit. The key to a thriving Chiefs offense is to run the ball successfully early, then when the defense adjusts to single high start flinging it. The thing with Andy last night seemed to be they continued to run on early downs... they got predictable... I'd love to see them change it up with play-action on 1st down after a successful series running the ball. But I'm just a Friday morning armchair expert.

you read through this whole thread?

By then others (cough clark cough) will be at or near the end of theirs... also I'm not sure either would command a Lewis-level contract. maybe they could restructure clark... hell maybe Mahomes would be willing to restructure a la elway and manning

Others will be leaving by then need solid coverage LBs that are also effective vs the run

Oh, I agree. 'in it's own head' is PM defined this season. He's been pressing all season... I could name a ton of examples, but we all saw it hopefully kelce's talk with him (you be you) really did make an impression sometimes leaders need a little leadership