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Well this game is a home game for us.

I can tell you who does not need a rest. The RB, LB and O line groups. They have been taking it easy for awhile now....

Well we beat them 30-6 before and that was with Mahomes going out in the 2nd quarter and at their house. They come to Arrowhead now and I am sure we will be more than fired up to beat the shit out of them and welcome Lock nicely.

Spags will have a lot for their O line to recognize along with Lock figuring it out. They just did this with Brady and he knows defenses a lot better. We get our 9th straight win against the Donks. I think a 24 point win in fact.

Cut players like Watkins, Sorensen, LDT. Extend Mahomes and work his numbers to hit later years. Rolling over the cap this year and it is possible. Let our FA go like Fuller and such too. This will get us comp picks later on also. Possible to do this and still get a mid level FA for the line or at LB etc and draft the rest. Wisniewski was in yesterday but will be interested to see how he does the rest if the year. Also we can tag him next year or even two if needed.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/12/8/21001758/five-winners-and-three-losers-from-the-chiefs-win-over-the-patriots Five winners and three losers from the Chiefs’ win over the Patriots 96 The ups and downs of this thrilling game resulted in five winners and three losers for the Chiefs By Ron Kopp Jr.@Ron_Kopp Dec 8, 2019, 8:46pm CST Share this story Share this on Facebook (opens in new window) Share this on Twitter (opens in new window) SHAREAll sharing options Photo by Kathryn Riley/Getty Images A dominating first half turned into battle for survival in the second — but the Kansas City Chiefs prevailed to take down the New England Patriots23-16. Here are five winners and three losers from the game: Winners Paul Rutherford-USA TODAY Sports Defensive Coordinator Steve Spagnuolo came in with an effective game plan to stifle the Patriots offense. His blitz strategy was consistently successful at forcing Patriots quarterback Tom Brady into uncomfortable throws. Spagnuolo brought the pressure in a variety of situations. In the first half, pressures from safety Daniel Sorensen, linebacker Reggie Ragland and others caused Brady to go 0/5 when under duress. New England converted only two of their eight third-down conversion attempts. Brady finished with only 169 passing yards — with just 4.7 yards per attempt. He threw an interception and was sacked three times — which resulted in a low 63.3 passer rating. Tight end Travis Kelce had one play that soiled what was otherwise a good performance. Kelce had multiple chunk plays in the first half; he had 45 yards by halftime. He also punched in a 4-yard rushing touchdown after taking a direct snap as the quarterback in a heavy shotgun formation. But Kelce’s day got interesting late in the third quarter, when he appeared to gain a first down before fumbling the ball away. That mistake led to the Patriots’ last field goal. The tight end finished as the leading Chiefs receiver with nine targets, seven catches and 66 yards. Cornerback Bashaud Breeland did not start the game very well. He had two early penalties — and was also the main victim of the Patriots’ big flea-flicker touchdown that concluded their initial drive. But in the second quarter, he was gifted with a big play when Brady threw a pass right to him; that play set up the Chiefs’ second touchdown. He also laid the wood on a big hit that gave the Chiefs defense momentum leading into halftime. His biggest play, however, came on fourth down with just a minute remaining. Breeland sealed the deal when he tipped away a pass intended for receiver Julian Edelman in the end zone. It was a great play — keeping his body away from Edelman’s and still cleanly defending the pass. Wide receiver Mecole Hardmanmade a momentum-building play in the first half when he caught a 48-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Patrick Mahomes. With a defender in the area, he showed good concentration and displayed his expected explosiveness to finish off the play. Hardman also had a couple of good kick returns past the 25-yard line. The defensive line stood their ground and controlled the line of scrimmage throughout the game; Patriots running backs averaged just 3.5 yards per carry. Frank Clarkhad a sack and two tackles for loss while Alex Okafor and Chris Joneseach had a sack. Derrick Nnadimade multiple run stops including a tackle for loss. As a whole, the defensive line accounted for four hits on Brady and all three of the sacks. Losers Photo by Kathryn Riley/Getty Images Chiefs running backs didn’t do anything impressive on the ground. LeSean McCoy had a good 13-yard run — but the unit as a whole only had 54 yards on 19 carries — just 2.9 yards per attempt. Darwin Thompson and Spencer Warecombined for 18 yards on nine carries. The sole Chiefs rushing touchdown came from Kelce. McCoy does not look as dynamic as he did in the earlier parts of the season — but his run blocking is not doing him any favors. Offensive tackles Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz were not on their A-game against the Patriots. New England pass rushers Chase Winovich and Deatrich Wise found success around the edge and combined for three hits on Mahomes — and a 12-yard sack by Wise. Schwartz was also a victim of a pancake hit by Patriots linebacker Jamie Collins that sent him to the ground and contributed towards a negative run. Fisher earned a false start penalty on a third-down play in the fourth quarter. The whole offensive line failed to execute consistently — as evidenced by the team’s 2.6 yards per carry and the five quarterback hits surrendered. Chiefs head coach and offensive play caller Andy Reid continues to be unable to figure out why his unit stalls on the opponent’s side of the field; it was a significant problem during this game. The offense had four drives that at least got to the Patriots 30-yard line. They were only able to score a touchdown on one of them, settling for field goals on the others. In this way, it was similar to the 2018 game in Foxborough. The other issue with the play-calling in this game seems to be a problem in most Chiefs games; the plays in the second half were conservative — which is reflected in the Chiefs scoring only three points after halftime. It didn’t come back to bite them today — but when these games become win-or-go-home, Reid needs to keep his foot on the gas.

Reiter. LDT coming back from injury was to be pluses. They have played like shit and then throw in LG injury and the injury to Fisher.....

And like many of us, we did not think the o line was an issue last year and all were set up for this year and beyond. Again a 20/20 issue really.

He is leading voter in pro bowl now for kick returner. I showed the link earlier post

You cant do that bs. Play the 20/20 game. If so every back sucked last year compared to when Lindsey was drafted. If a TE has more yards than our WR you do realize they dont have much else at all to throw to. We habe a good kick returner from him too playing at a pro bowl level. Was that taken into consideration? I dont know the yards or even tds he has but hardman has done well with the limited passes and olays he has had, as seen by the 48 yard td yesterday. Edit: this TE, Foster Moreau, has 21 receptions for 174 yards and 5 tds. Hardman has 25 for 598 and 6 tds, not including any rushing yards or kick off. How is Hardman doing less than him?

Great defense. Now to let the offense keep the pedal to the metal and this game would not have been close.

They wont score unless the refs help them out

Mahomes was fired up and letting the offense have it on the side line. We are fine. The plays are being made and time being used as we were getting first downs. If kecle had held on we would still be driving. Our defense is looking good and now all we need is a td here to really give it to NE who no longer has any time outs and challenges.

Lol we are up by 2 scores still. Our defense is doing a great job. Wow

Forward progress was done? I mean that is what they used against us before in a qb sack and strip.

Hahaha and they used a time out too.

Yeah that was it. Could not remember if it was Cleveland or Houston trade we got him in.

DOD was our pick. Rankin was picked in the 3rd by Cleveland

Meh, OBJ has less TDs and barely more yards than Hardman. Not hos fault he is not getting looked at more often. Reid just does not seem to rely on rookies all that much at all. As we see he gets his roster set, as he does the o line, and rarely strays from it unless forced to do so with injuries and such. Hell even Watkins continues to start and has done shit lately.

Hardman is leading pro bowl vote for kick off returner. Kelce at TE is too. https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/news/chiefs-travis-kelce-mecole-hardman-lead-nfl-pro-bowl-voting/

Probably you were looking at their own original 2nd round pick ?

When 2 of your top rbs are out any signing will be good to help the 2nd and 4th rb options we had left.

6. Kansas City Chiefs (8-4) Week 13 ranking: 8 Who's under fire: Andy Reid, head coach Reid isn't going to get fired for playoff failure, but the Chiefs have been waiting 50 years to get back to the Super Bowl. The AFC playoff field looks as though it will be filled with dangerous opponents in a one-and-done setting, but the Chiefs are talented enough to make a deep run. It's Reid's job to navigate them past the likes of the Texans, Patriots and Ravens. -- Adam Teicher https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28208519/week-14-nfl-power-rankings-1-32-poll-plus-fire-final-month

Not a huge mistake. Any rookie would nees to take time to learn this. An undrafted guy would not have the potential Hardman has and to think we could just get these types all the time and make it work is laughable. If so Dieter would be great by now. Hell even Mahomes took a year sitting, i doubt that was a mistake. Hardman is learning as Hill did too. I think next year he will show it with another year in this system and learning to clean up his route running etc. Things that Hill himself was raw at too. The only reason Hill lasted past the 2nd round was of his own doing. So saying we took a guy with this potential as to high is not right. I do think he will get more touches and opportunities too. Having Hill here does take away from him at times because Hill is that good.

Wow. I would give a B- . Hardman has done a nice job in a complex system that takes a WR a couple years to learn. 450 yards on only 23 receptions with 5 tds so far is pretty good stats not to mention kick off returns too. Hill finished his rookie season with 61 receptions for 593 receiving yards and six touchdowns. Thornhill and him have done a great job since day 1 for being rookies. Throw in that it takes a DT a couple years usually to contribute and you have also seen Saunders doing very well rotating in and Fenton doing such a good job that no one has really cared Fuller has been out.