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So upgrading Chenal with a guy like this you would not want? Listen, I am not thinking this will remotely happen, but Chenal was no bar burner or played a lot. Upgrading any position if we can should be a thing we do.

Yeah, but we have drafted LBs In the 2nd and 3rd round lately. If a guy is very good and is there, do you pass on him say un the early 3rd or late 2nd just because we have Bolton? I know what you are saying but we took Chenal in the 3rd last year when we already had Bolton too.

So I guess we should not draft one since Bolton is here? Chenal anyone? Come on, if the guy falls and is bpa you would just pass on him? Say he is there in the 3rd round, Nah we have Bolton....

Laporta is a competitive blocker, but not a strong finisher or sustaining them. Athletic to get the catch and does well after it. I think with him being behind Kelce he could learn and really polish his game. A guy 2 or 3 years with Kelce here that could become a very good TE. This is a good choice in say 5th or 6th round unless he blows up the combine.

Get Campbell at MLB then.... 40-Yard Dash 4.65 Seconds 10-Yard Split 1.59 Seconds Vertical Jump 37.5’’ Broad Jump 10’ 8’’ 3-Cone Drill 6.74 Seconds 20-Yd Shuttle 4.24 Seconds

This. He was not even a starter for Iowa but did wreck havoc. He played 2 years in HS and also hockey for 3. Guy is a true freak athlete with speed and power. He can bend the corner and has slid inside to have experience at DT. Still less than 1000 snaps for his college career, he will have some polishing needed. His nu.bers though speak for itself. He would be awesome to get, but we would have to trade way up. I would love to have him or Campbell in the 3rd if possible to mive up but with the combine he might go early 2nd round easily. Campbell is a stud at middle LB. I wanted Jewell a few years ago from Iowa, Campbell is much better than him. He is a jack of all trades. Don't sleep on LaPorta, another guy I like and was all w3 had for an offensive threat at TE. Kittle esque I will say. Others to look at are Merriweather at S and Moss at CB. Merriweather is going to be very solid at S.

Well it depends on who they can get in FA or draft to cover for the depth etc. Takes a WR a year to learn this system let alone learn Mahomes. Guess they will assess how he did picking it all up and go from there. If he does get pushed down the chart say 4th or 5th WR due to our additions of the position, you let him go at 10 mil imo.

Imagine him trying to catch the ball!

He could not run on the field at all. Those holes in his feet would slow him down big time.

Wow, talk about getting all up in that shit.

I mean he has better stats because he played for us much longer from 2008 to 2016. He did have a couple ACL injuries that took time away but man, priest had a couple years too due to spinal injury in 2005, missed 2006 and tried to come back, but had to retire in 2007. Here from 2001 to 2007. So roughly from 2001 to 2004......Holmes totaled 6,070 yards and 76 touchdowns on the ground and 251 grabs for 2,377 yards and seven scores through the air. JC is great, availability during the time of all but a couple years put him as our leading rusher of all time. His stats: finished his Kansas City career with 7,260 rushing yards (the all-time franchise record), 43 rushing touchdowns, 285 catches, 2,457 receiving yards, and 20 receiving touchdowns. I mean Priest had a lot of receptions, rushing yards plus TDs for a much shorter playing time. I still say a healthy Priest would be better but a good problem to have if you had to decide which is better.

JC or Priest? Man I think I would take Priest. Hell evem a young Marcus Allen too as a change of back and his ability to get small amd get those tough yards on 3rd and short.

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Naaa, I know iowa and just know our needs and what we have at iowa. I doubt we can get Van Ness and do we need a ILB like Campbell, who I think is a better version than Josey Jewell? Not much else going on for Iowa than those 3 for earlier rounds. Later picks could be had for Riley Moss ar CB or Merriweather at S. Both will depend on the combine numbers but are not bad picks in later rounds.

I said it before, on going after Kittle when he slid, I think we should look at LaPorta out of Iowa. With our lack of passing attack, he still put up good numbers. He is around 250 but could add 5 to 10 pounds on him. Not a blazing speed, above average at best but he makes the tough catches with good yac. Also a willing blocker coming out of the pro set iowa uses. I do wish we had traded for Hockensen though, Vikings stole him in the trade imo.

Clark will be cut. Right now we are over as he counts....for now.

The NFL will announce the compensatory picks sometime before the start of the 2023 league year, which is scheduled for March 15th.

Could be 12. Depends on the Atlanta trade with Fenton if it is deemed to be a 7th round pick as it was conditional.

The PEDs say he does.

I would like us to extend Chris Jones and make his 2023 hit very reasonable. Cut Clark and save 21 mil. Restructure Mahomes only if needed. We have around 11 mil right now in cap space. That with Jones saving us say 18 mil ( he counts 30 againat the cap in his last year so just saying 18 as of now), plus Clark's 21 mil can give us 50 mil without doing anything else. Bring back who we can, Juju, Dunlap and go from there. Sign 2 of these possible players, maybe a DE but I think we make a good splash for at least one top FA. I also could see us going after a run stuffing type LB. Think Lavonte David or Wagner type Kaleb McGary, OT, Falcons (age: 27) McGary had a dominant run-blocking season in his big breakout with Atlanta and should command a top-of-market deal should the team not keep its right tackle Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Vikings (age: 28) Tomlinson is one of the league's most disruptive interior pass-rushers, and he's also solid against the run. Jessie Bates III, S, Bengals (age: 25) Bates is an excellent run-stopper who won't return to Cincinnati after being franchise-tagged in 2023. He is also is reliable in coverage. Javon Hargrave, DT, Eagles (age: 29) Hargrave's job is to get upfield and get to the quarterback with inside pressure. He has done that well for three seasons in Philadelphia, as evidenced by his 11 career sacks. Then draft for DE, WR and other depth for development like TE and needs now or the following year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35712924/netflix-qb-series-feature-mahomes-cousins-mariota Adam TeicherESPN Staff Writer Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs was among three NFL quarterbacks to wear a microphone for every game of the 2022 season. That access will be turned into a Netflix documentary series this summer. The series, titled "Quarterback," will also feature Kirk Cousins of the Minnesota Vikings and Marcus Mariota of the Atlanta Falcons. The three players were filmed at home as well as during games. ADVERTISEMENT Mahomes was selected as the NFL's MVP last season for the second time. He also led the Chiefs to a Super Bowl championship for the second time in his career. "I'm excited for fans to get an exclusive, behind-the-scenes look at an unforgettable season for the entire Chiefs organization and for my family," said Mahomes, whose company, 2PM Productions, will help produce the series. "From welcoming home a new baby in the middle of the season to welcoming the Lombardi Trophy back to Kansas City, our crew was there for it all. This new Netflix series will show the time, preparation and balance that it takes to be an NFL quarterback and perform on the biggest stage." NFL Films and Omaha Productions will also help produce the series. Former quarterback Peyton Manning is Omaha Productions' executive producer. "Playing quarterback in the NFL is a unique experience that has some pretty incredible ups and downs," Manning said. "Thanks to this collaboration with our partners at NFL Films, 2PM Productions and Netflix, fans will be given a unique and intimate look at what life is like as a starting QB."

And yet, despite losing the NFL’s best playmaker, the Chiefs actually scored more points and gained more yards than in 2021, leading the NFL in both categories. That was with no Chiefs WR finishing in the top 20 in receiving yards or top 30 in receiving touchdowns. Who needs impact WRs, the NFL’s hottest new cheat code, when you have Mahomes? Of course, trading first-round picks for veterans making market money is preferable to using them on running backs — something the Chiefs also did with Clyde Edwards-Helaire in 2020. Edwards-Helaire was a healthy scratch in the Super Bowl, usurped by a seventh-round rookie (Isiah Pacheco). The Chiefs passed on Jonathan Taylor (a second-round pick) to take Edwards-Helaire, who had a consensus mock-draft ranking nearly a round later than where Kansas City drafted him. Ignoring consensus rankings at a position of perceived need was a mistake K.C. made the year before as well, when the team picked Mecole Hardman over D.K. Metcalf despite Metcalf having a consensus draft ranking 62 spots higher. The Chiefs could have had both Taylor and Metcalf on rookie deals since 2019 if they just went chalk in the draft. But none of those count as the biggest face-plant by the Chiefs when it comes to roster management. That honor goes to handing out one of the league’s biggest contracts to a kicker, Harrison Butker, who graded as one of the worst in the league in 2022. And Butker even helped to enable some questionable game management by Reid in the Super Bowl. The first instance was with the score tied 7-7 in the first quarter and the Chiefs facing a fourth-and-3 from the Philadelphia 24-yard line. Analytical models say to go for it. (And that’s generally speaking, so not even factoring in that Butker is not a good kicker while Mahomes definitely is a great quarterback.) On third and fourth downs with from 2 to 4 yards to go in 2022, the Chiefs were 6 percentage points better than average at converting. Since 2020, they’re the best in the NFL and also 10 points better than average.1 Yet Reid predictably opted for a field goal, which Butker missed, basically resulting in a turnover that led directly to an Eagles touchdown. Then, in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs took a seven-point lead after the Eagles (of all teams, given their usual fourth-down aggressiveness) opted to punt in their own territory on fourth-and-3. Instead of going for two to potentially make it a two-possession game, the Chiefs opted to kick the extra point to go up eight — a margin the Eagles would knock down to zero within five minutes. That was hardly a surprise. Despite how badly Butker struggles with extra points (92.4 percent over the past three years, versus an NFL average of 94.6 percent), the Chiefs go for two just 5.4 percent of the time, the second-lowest rate in football since 2018. That’s despite converting two-thirds of the time when they do go for two, the second-highest success rate in the NFL. At those rates, had they gone for two after every TD instead of kicking, the Chiefs would have scored 116 more points (or 23.2 more per year). In 2021, ESPN surveyed analytics staffers across the NFL and, when asked to name the top five teams in analytics, the Chiefs did not receive a single vote (16 teams did). To be fair, no one named them the least-analytically savvy team, either, but what analytics professional would want to name a perennial Super Bowl favorite like the Chiefs an analytically inept team? They’d basically be admitting that it’s not enough to master all the little things, like the Eagles generally do and did (for the most part) during the Super Bowl. That it simply does not matter that the Chiefs are doing those things wrong in the eyes of the numbers. Because the big things in Kansas City, the playmaking genius of Mahomes and the offensive innovation of Reid, will always be right

Interesting read. Imagine having Taylor as our RB and Mettcalf as a WR. This goes into analytics of the Chiefs and brings up some good points. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-chiefs-didnt-need-analytics-to-win-another-championship/ FiveThirtyEight SearchSearch Menu NFL The Chiefs Didn't Need Analytics To Win Another Championship By Michael Salfino FEB. 23, 2023, AT 6:00 AM Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid bought the championship Chiefs a lot of margin for error. EZRA SHAW / GETTY IMAGES Super Bowl LVII proved once again that the Kansas City Chiefs don’t need analytics. They win the old-fashioned way — with quarterback Patrick Mahomes and head coach Andy Reid creating massive advantages that render ill-advised game management and roster decisions meaningless. Mahomes needs no introduction. And Reid is one of the most respected offensive masterminds in football, with a trademark being his deft play design. In the Super Bowl, that resulted in not one but two touchdowns by receivers with 10 or more yards of separation, just the fifth time that’s happened in any game since 2016. But Reid’s clock management, challenge decisions and passivity in going for fourth downs and two-point conversions — the modern ways we measure coaching — are all behind the times. And all of those were on display in the Super Bowl, too. Moreover, the Chiefs also won in spite of not building their roster in the way prescribed by analytics. But in the end, there Mahomes and Reid were, hoisting the Lombardi Trophy anyway. Let’s start with the roster-building. Going into 2022, Kansas City was staring at the bill for a bevy of questionable draft picks, trades and contracts, plus the fact that Mahomes’s cap hit was growing from $7.4 million to $35.8 million. So in March, the team was forced to let go of perhaps the game’s best receiver, Tyreek Hill, due to salary-cap woes. This was despite the value of franchise-caliber wideouts being generally viewed as highly as ever. Trading Hill became necessary because the Chiefs were paying market-value deals for a left tackle (Orlando Brown) and defensive end (Frank Clark) who were themselves acquired for first-round picks on the cusp of requiring massive contracts. While Brown was arguably worth the money, Clark was graded as just the 69th-best defensive end by Pro Football Focus despite the $104 million contract he was instantly awarded by the Chiefs in 2019. The rest is on next post.

Shocking....I don't think anyone saw this coming!

It does happen. There are those DE types that fall or go in the 2nd round or later. Hell one of the best finds for a late pick was Jared Allen in the 4th round. One off the top of my head lately was Calais? Campbell picked up by Arizona in the 2nd.