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Sounds fair. Obviously, the criminal charges would have to be vacated first. If that happens, half the season would be fair.

The Chiefs really broke the color line. They found all sorts of guys from small black colleges that ended up stars. Then everyone jumped on board, bui the Chiefs were the ones who rode that to dominance starting in the mid sixties. We know that, but i'll bet a lot of the younger guys in here don't.

Got it, now.

Wrong about his lack of SB history. He was definitely on the SB winning squad in 1969. I used to watch him that season. In fact,. he had an interception in SB IV.

The back side of Mt. Rushmore

I'm with you. Derrick Thomas No. 1. Then Bobby Bell, Then Chris Jones, then Buck Buchanon, then Willie Lanier

4 terabytes??!! Somebody was having a good time. Hope they brought their Kleenex. 😀

It is old. It was obvious from the article. But see my response to Xen. There is simply no way to make a winnable case in court. The undeniable fact, though, is that Araiza admitted to having sex with her "outside the house. " Maybe that means he wasn't "even at the party," but that is like me saying "I wasn't even at the restaurant. I was just eating something from their menu on the sidewalk near their front door." He offically admitted to screwing a 17 year old girl, which is statutory rape if you are 21. The only question is whether or not she lied and told him she was 18. But oh my gosh, she "can't remember anything. " But she remembers that, somehow. Interesting. So she sues. Then his lawyers counter-sue her, and both sides drop the civil case rather than pay the lawyers. Standard fare. I am glad he will play for us, even though he likely committed statutory rape. But to think the Chiefs signed another punter on a whim is ridiculous. Veach doesn't do anything on a whim. They are hedging a bet. By the way, OT. I might be right about the seriousness of Rashee Rice's situation. A recent report from the Chiefs front office sounded very iffy whether or not he will ever play football for the Chiefs. It depends on the outcome of his 8 felony charges. Young men who play great football can just as easily be dumbshits when they are off the football field.

I don't remember that thread, but I believe you. I am glad he is "cleared". He should be a great asset. Yes, I was surprised about the UDFA. Still don't know why they got him, except for how good a holder he is said to be, but it made me wonder if the Chiefs still have some doubts. By the way, the video evidence was pretty sketchy and only included a small portion of the guys involved. Anyway, he admitted to screwing her outside that house, which would still be statutory rape unless she is being honest about telling everyone that she was 18 instead of 17. It's very hard to know the truth in cases like this. That's the real reason prosecutors avoid prosecuting these kinds of things. I know that memory disappears after blood alcohol reaches about 0.2%. That's why it's called a "blackout." Memory simply does not imprint at that level of alcohol. By the way, prosecutors DO NOT normally go out of their way to clear suspects. They simply drop charges if they conclude that a "reasonable doubt" that can be made in the mind of evem a single juror. Prosecutors do not "clear" suspects. They simply decide whether they can get a conviction or not. If they don't think they can, they don't prosecute, regardless of their own conclusions about guilt or innocence. It isn't the same thing as "clearing" someone. It is merely dropping the case.

The Chiefs may have made another steal no one is talking about. Assuming that the original charges against Matt Araiza for participating in a gang sexual assault at a party in college were dropped permanently for lack of evidence, the Chiefs have on their hands a punter who can kick the ball amazing distances. That means that the Chiefs could take greater risks at 3rd and long while deep in their own side of the field. They could still flip the field completely if they don't convert a riskier play. That would be another slap in the face to Buffalo for releasing him before knowing that the charges were dropped. I hope it was a correct decision by the District Attorney. There just was insufficient evidence to win in a prosecution. Still, it makes the Chiefs look pretty bad if the Chiefs think he may have been actually guilty. This is an older piece from USA Today. So, it could change. I hope not. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/05/11/matt-araiza-nfl-punter-rape-case-woman-discuss-details/70202116007/

i wasn't talking about the characters of either Hunt, just their committment to putting he best football minds in control of the operation, not the best politicians or the best womanizers. The Chiefs all knew about Steadman, along with everyone in the business community in KC. But Steadman was a schmoozer and socialite by design, not a football mind. Hunt senior cared only about his oil fortune and making money by competing in Kansas City vs. competing against the Cowboys in Dallas. Clark is a trust fund baby. He only wants to make his own name by having the best sports franchises. As far as getting laid the most, you are right. It has always been the truth about holding and using power, at least for men. The difference is in the long term happiness of a person. One leads to long term failure, the other leads to its opposite. Steadman's long lasting failure is the perfect example.

This golden era and Veach remind me of the very old days of Lamar Hunt, GM and CEO Jack Steadman, Hank Stram, Len Dawson, and the super bowl IV championship team and how Jack Steadman almost single-handedly destroyed the Chiefs for decades. GM's determine the whole thing in the long run. Jack Steadman, after the original great success, was someone who the organization left to do virtually everything. He ran the whole ship and had no time to put the full work into maintaining the talent level. And look what happened. By insider accounts, Jack Steadman used his profile and position to mainly screw. Serously. He spent all of his time chasing women and hiring women for that purpose throughout the entire organization. He considered himself the great playboy as guys like that used to call themselves. His life became partying and bedding as many women as possible. He was constantly partying and enjoyed his reputation for using the success of the Chiefs in that era to get laid as much and as often as humanly possible. The Chiefs slowly became a laughingstock of fuitilty, losing every year as the old players gradually faded away and were never replaced by talent that were evaluated and researched. Many of us here have been aware of what happened and how long it took to right the ship beginning with the Marty and Vermeil eras. I just feel compelled to mention all this, because the GM really builds the teams in the NFL. The best and longest lasting and hardworking GM's create the lasting powerhouses. Clark Hunt is 10 times the owner that his dad was. We have to give thanks for having the organization we have now and not forget how bad it can get when we don't. Sorry for the (once more) excessively long post. I just think of the past and how bad it can get when the wrong people are put in control.

Now we have the UFA'S and rookie contracts. After we find out how much money is left, we could pick up a really good vet on a one year deal in the summer after some releases. So, its not over.

Chiefs love them some versatility.

All teams are excited about their picks, but I have to say that Veach's 1-2 punch this time is pretty damned good for a team that has won 2 superbowls in a row and is picking last in every round prior to trades. The two most needed spots filled by guys absolutely in the top tier. The D may be down a little because of Sneed, but the O is up a LOT. A better balanced, deep, young, championship team. Who knows what might happen to one ot two of the guys on day 3. Add in the FA signings including retention of our main D line guys, and I just have to bow before Veach.

i'mj happy and not surprised we got him. We have the coaches to train him, and if successful, it will be a huge boost. I had been hoping for him before the night started.

Yeah. I think Suamataia is closer to ready than the others from what I have read. Plus there has been so much chatter about him coming from the organization. These next two days will be really interesting. It seems to be where Veach really shines. We just don't know it until later.

He did good, though.

I think they are hoping for Paul. Suamataia is more of a one to two year project, but Paul could start. Still, the Chiefs have had their eye on Suamataia. They have a little cushion to train him up.

The talking heads are going to give us a C+ no matter what we do. Who cares? Those people are all underneath us, looking up. I'm sick of it, too, but at least it has given me some familiarity with the names and something to post about and to read about and pretend I know something. But enough is enough. Time to think about something else.....................NAAAAAAAH I just hope we don't draft Ladd McConkey. Rhymes with Donkey. He may be great, but let's face it, it's a stupid-assed name, and I would have to keep saying it repeatedly. Give me a guy with a first name of Kool-Aid. Now we're talking

They are getting paid to do this. Wouldn't you?

It would be huge. But Veach always surprises us. Mahomes' opinion always carries great sway, and he is mobile and elusive enough and throws on the run well enough, that I think he would favor a receiver who has good hands and can gain separation on shorter routes than a guy that will take a year to blossom as a blind side protector. It would not even shock me if the best avallable TE, Brock Bowers, fell into our lap. Veach should jump on that. Andy's system requires a top TE. Kelce is 34. We are only halfway through Mahome's career. Would we rather have a three-peat, or three more Lombardies spread out over the next several years? I'd take the latter.

I read that he is the most polished pass protector available this draft. but if the rest of it is true, then screw that. I'm not sure what "low energy" means in pass pro. Sounds like bullshit. Whoever wrote that is looking for a different kind of runner. Also, "too creative?" That sounds like a coaching problem to me. That Bleacher Report summary should be looked at in its totality. The NEGATIVES section doesn't seem to fit with all the POSITIVE things with him. There are a lot more positives, including speed, exposiveness, moves, etc.

How about a great pass blocking RB like McKinnon was? There is at least one of those that came for a top 30 interview. That would kill two birds with one stone. The best at pass blocking is Jonathon Brooks.

So, THAT's why they died. I should have known. Sad.