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Im not your bro and all those mistakes hurt.

They may have gone 4 downs. A punt would have been better. The pass was totally a joke.

Thats not enough good players and Fenton & Watts are not special. Baker & Hughes are not proven. They were on the cheap pick ups. Both had some issues today.

You know Ward did not play today?

For me there are not better players available. When Gay gets back that will help. The Thornhill thing is confusing. He did not show for mini camp. That said. The Chargers did not play their key starters in pre season and those guys looked sharp. Pre season is now a joke. All that practice and 11-12 times a team scored 7 in the red zone. STOP WHATEVER YOU ARE PRACTICING

It was also hot to handle especially thrown a little behind. That was a easy toss and catch.

I dont think Spags is responsible for the roster. He can only play the guys he is given. These guys seem to be lacking.

So what I think your saying is these players are good enough except for the busted coverage, fumbles and picks. So fix that and the players are good enough?

Seems simple. Just do that.

See my avatar for clarification. What I see on the field is not getting the job done. Also we are not discussing the SB Winning Team. We are discussing this years team. That Said: The superbowl Team was mostly put together by Dorsey. I know , Veach found Mahomes playing on a island in the pacific, so he gets all the credit for that. Still its about this team.

Because that is what they are. KC has not invested draft or dollars to the secondary. Yes Thornhill is an exception. CEH looked really good today. Still that pick is an example of the brain trust approach. Its all about the offense and Mahomes.

Maybe but those guys did not turn it over 4 times. I dont think he has 11 good players. Yes all NFL players have talent. Its just KC over all talent level is well below the competition. The depth is clearly not good enough either. If the Superstars dont come up big then we see the result.

PATRICK MAHOMESQB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Patrick Mahomes completed 27-of-44 passes for 260 yards, three touchdowns and two interceptions in the Chiefs' 30-24, Week 3 loss to the Chargers, adding four carries for 45 additional yards. It was a genuinely shaky outing after Mahomes tossed a bad fourth quarter pick in Week 2. Mahomes' first INT this afternoon was not his fault, as it glanced off Marcus Kemp's wide-open hands. The second was a different story, as Mahomes was flushed from the pocket on 3rd-and-8 with 1:55 remaining and back-footed an awful attempt to Travis Kelce down the field. The Chargers then drove for what proved to be the game-winning touchdown. That throw, of course, was just one of many miscues on an afternoon where the Chiefs also lost two fumbles. To say Mahomes was the issue would not even be close to accurate. The Chiefs are not doing much of anything well right now but have a get-right Week 4 matchup in the Eagles even if Philly's front is likely to create blocking issues for Mahomes.

I have said it many times. The Chiefs roster is a 500 team without Mahomes. The guy has to play almost perfect and the offense not turn it over to win. The oline struggled today. Yes some are rookies and they should, may, get better. The corners, other team retreads in the secondary , are what they are. Thats why they were available. The drafts have been average at best. Free agent signings mostly poor. HB was the only one I think has been good.

So who is responsible for the players? Is it just them individually not playing up to their talent? Or?

TB last year was like 8-5 at one point. So yes KC can do it but Mahomes cant do it all by himself and he can not make dumb throws as he has the past two weeks. Tampa had a defense and Mahomes does not.

Is it coaching or Veach?

I dont read that or listen to that crap. Those twits dont know much more than I do and at least I Know I Know Nothing.

Thats the issue. The assumption of play offs. I am just as bad. Its like get these games over and start the playoffs. Well the Chief Players are acting like its a given too. I predicted 11-6. I figured KC would start losing some of these close games.

Your point? KC knew he would be a challenge. The four turnovers were the issue. Plenty of moving the ball down the field. I saw several KC TE who did not chip correct when out there to help NIANG.

Bosa dominates most.

Im basing it on trying to make plays that are extraordinary when you dont need it. The game situations say take whats there.

I thought the defense showed some promise. Lots of injuries did not help. 4 turnovers did not help. The offense was the issue today.

It was easy to blame CEH last week even though there was no guarantee the field goal would be made. Fact is if Mahomes does not throw that pick the Chiefs may have gone up two scores. May have yes? These plays are not the Mahomes we know. Maybe he needs to drop the 20-0 talk and stop thinking he is IT.

But it was still a win able game if he does not just throw it . Same as last game. Chiefs were driving to take a 2 score lead and he throws a stupid pass. This is not the Mahomes we are use to seeing. DUMB PLAYS.