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Can't we all just get along? Or at least agree to make fun of LJ every chance we get?

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Case in point Dak Prescott is currently set to lead the league in cap hit as many times as mahomes over the next 5 years (1). lol cowboys

Devin McCourty is doing it right now. Weddle didn't drop off the cliff until 34 and graded out in the 80's at 33. Same with Ed Reed with grades in the 80s at 33. Polamalu retired at 33. I did not suggest we make him the highest paid safety (I believe you brought that up). I suggested a 5 year backloaded contract with 3 real years and a few cuttable years on the backend. That would buy time to find and develop the next guy and fit him into the cap. He's not as fast as he used to be now and hasn't been since the knee surgeries, yet all pro both years in spags system. If he loses a step they can stop using him at corner which is fine considering how good veach is at finding corners.

You can't do a contract like that with the cap down the way it is. Can't fit it in the cap and almost all of it would have to be guaranteed with a short contract like that. Why wouldn't you want him for 3 years minimum? Seriously lots of safeties with his type of game do not drop off until mid 30s, we've been seeing this for years. This makes no sense to me. Besides, it's an NFL contract not an NBA contract. A 5 year contract is not for 5 years and lets you backload into non guaranteed years where you can cut and/or restructure which gives you flexibility. That also gets you past the next few low cap years. 4 or 5 years makes much more sense. Fyi highest paid safety is now over 17+ per after the adams deal.

Disagree. We've seen safeties whose game is based on versatility like HB play really well into their mid 30's (he's 28). I think the plan is a long extension and it should be. The hangup is next years cap. We're gonna be up against it and veach has said they are factoring in a franchise tag for Zeus Jr. If they get that deal done the dominos will fall in place for an HB contract. HB is the engine that makes Spags defense go and he's perfect for Spags' multiple coverage D. Barring injury I can see him playing well for another 5-7 years in that D.

He's a bargain right now and will be thru the life of this contract. He ranks 20th in cap hit this year (behind kyler Murray, Joe burrow and even deshaun watson) 2022 he'll rank 7th (tannehill will even make more) There's only 1 year thru 2025 that he's currently set to be number 1 in cap hit and that's well after the new NFL contracts kick in. Fyi there are only 4 QBs currently under contract through 2025 so that will change quickly as well. So how much more of a bargain do y'all want for the best player in the NFL?

He's a much better inline blocker than any of our tight ends. Andy likes having that on the roster. While he doesn't use it that much, he also doesn't use a fullback much but yet here we are with another fullback. No idea what he'll do.

I'd hate to lose Fortson over Bell. Maybe they carry 4 TEs? Fortson has earned a spot on the team but I'm not sure the numbers are in his favor.

Yep. Fullback has looked great. Another good veach find

Live shot of LJ in the playoffs:

Dunno. Andy doesn't use a lot of inline blocking with TEs even when he had Bell. He mostly has them blocking in space, including in the screen game, and both Fortson and Grey have shown they can do this, plus have much higher upside as receivers. You could likely carry Bell on the expanded PS this year and not risk losing one of the youngsters.

I'm guessing you don't pay much attention then. Casual fan?

You do when you gotta wash out your skivies from all the sharting.

Ravens getting the full Sammy experience

I did. Of the qbs who played the full year he threw for more yards than Cam. Das all.

I was more impressed by the red zone short yardage pickup when they ran a man blocking scheme and powered their way to a first down. Next to last in league last year in those situations.

Key looked good at times as well and saved a TD later. Up and down game but to be expected for an undrafted guy. He settled down ok and didn't look overwhelmed after that. That's half the battle for a young guy.

I think they're just looking at the numbers game with Fenton. There are 4 that will definitely make it in Ward, Sneed, Hughes and Baker. After that you would think Fenton, but if they're keen on a younger guy with more upside who knows. I think he's in due to inside outside versatility and someone younger goes to PS, like Bopete.

I took more bites during the CLEARS

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-comparing-patrick-mahomes-and-josh-allen-contracts-making-them-nfls-highest-paid-players/ Agent's Take: Comparing Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen contracts, making them NFL's highest-paid players Joel Corry Aug 11, 2021 at 3:10 pm ET7 min read The Chiefs and the Bills have the best and second-best odds to represent the AFC in Super Bowl LVI. Their starting quarterbacks are the NFL's two highest-paid players. Patrick Mahomes landed the most lucrative contract in American team sports history last July. The Super Bowl LIV MVP received a 10-year, $450 million contract extension from the Chiefs worth up to $475 million with incentives. Josh Allen signed a six-year, $258 million extension worth a maximum of $288 million through incentives with the Bills last week. Mahomes becoming the NFL's highest-paid player was expected. The enormity of the contract took practically everybody by surprise. Extremely long quarterback deals had fallen out of favor around the league by the middle of the 2000s. The latter years of lengthy NFL contracts are essentially a series of one-year options where teams can release players when it best suits them. Mahomes has protections that aren't usually in the later years of deals. A significant amount of Mahomes' compensation in these years is in unsecured March roster bonuses that become fully guaranteed at least one year early. For example, Mahomes' 2027 compensation consists of a $10 million base salary, a $49.4 million third day of the league roster bonus and a $550,000 workout bonus. The $49.4 million roster bonus becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2026 league year. The base salary and workout bonus are fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2027 league year. The Chiefs would have to buy Mahomes out for $49.4 million to exit his deal in 2027 before the remaining $10.55 million became secure. The expectation was for Allen to follow the recent trend of high-end quarterback contracts, besides Mahomes', by giving up four new years. First-round picks Jared Goff, Deshaun Watson and Carson Wentz, who had two years remaining on their rookie contracts, signed four-year extensions. Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson committed to four new years in their 2018 and 2019 extensions. Dak Prescott signed a four-year deal this past March. Allen borrowed the concept of unsecured money in the later years becoming guaranteed a year early from Mahomes. For instance, Allen's $14 million 2027 base salary and $25 million fifth day of the 2027 league year roster bonus are fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2026 league year. The next to last year of Allen's contract is in 2027. The devil is in the details with NFL contracts since the deals aren't fully guaranteed like in the NBA and MLB. The chart below summarizes the two quarterbacks' contracts and compares the common years of the deals. A direct comparison can be made because the two first-round picks both had two years left on their rookie contracts when signing their current deals. In the comparison, Mahomes' first new year is 2022 while Allen's is 2023 since the Chiefs signal-caller was drafted a year earlier in 2017. The comparison is quite revealing. Notes: New money and cash flow are cumulative amounts; Allen's $2,618,595 third day of training camp roster bonus is only included in cash-flow calculations There's a big disparity in the amount fully guaranteed at signing. Allen has the most ever fully guaranteed in an NFL contract. It was widely reported that he had $100 million fully guaranteed at signing and $150 million of overall guarantees. That's only true if Allen's $2,618,595 third day of training camp roster bonus, which was earned on July 29, is included in these totals. Nine players, including Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa and Titans wide receiver Julio Jones, had more fully guaranteed at signing than Mahomes. The total guarantees are much closer. Allen replaced Mahomes as having the most total guarantees in an NFL contract. Money completely unsecured, that becomes fully guaranteed at a later date, is not considered in the total guarantees calculations. Mahomes trails Allen at every juncture in new money despite his extension averaging $2 million more per year. This is because Mahomes' contract is backloaded. High-end NFL contracts are usually frontloaded because of the lack of full guarantees. With Mahomes' deal, 43.9% of new money is in the first five new contract years (2022 through 2026) while $252.25 million of the $450 million (56.1%) is in the final five new years for an average of $50.45 million per year. In a neutral deal, one that's neither frontloaded or backloaded, 50% of Mahomes' new money or $225 million would be in the first five new years. Allen's deal is structured more conventionally. At the halfway point of his extension (after the first three new years), Allen has 53.47% of his new money. Allen is the new NFL standard after the first three, first four and first five new years. At each of these respective points Allen's extension averages $45,981,802, $44,111,351 and $43,289,081 per year. Obviously, beating Mahomes after six new years was a necessity for Allen's camp considering his extension averages $50,000 more per year. There's a pretty big gap in cash flow favoring Allen until the sixth new year. In fact Allen's cash through two years is nearly $4 million more than Mahomes' after three years. Mahomes barely tops Allen in cash flow at this point thanks to making $59.95 million in 2027. Something I always look at with players who are or would have been legitimate franchise tag candidates is how their actual deals compare to playing the franchise tag game. If Mahomes had played out his rookie contract, he would have made $27,631,905 in 2020 and 2021. The Chiefs would have put an exclusive franchise tag on Mahomes in 2022 absent a long-term deal. The 2022 quarterback exclusive franchise number, which would be the average of the top five 2022 quarterback salaries (usually salary cap numbers) at the end of 2022 restricted free agent signing period on April 22, currently projects to $43.661 million. This number is subject to change depending on new quarterback deals, contract restructures, pay cuts and/or releases over the next several months. Mahomes would have made in the neighborhood of $71 million starting to go year to year depending on where the actual 2022 franchise number was finalized as opposed to the just over $63 million in his actual contract. A second franchise tag in 2023 at an NFL collective bargaining agreement-mandated 20% increase over Mahomes' projected 2022 franchise number would be $52,393,200. Mahomes would be approximately $20 million ahead by continuing to play the franchise tag game. The franchise tag game is a different story for Allen. Had Allen played out his contract, he would have made $26,554,595. He would have gotten an exclusive franchise tag in 2023, which currently projects to $43.001 million. As in Mahomes' case, this number is also subject to change depending on developments in the quarterback market. Allen would have made approximately $69.5 million going year to year with a 2023 franchise under the current projections. He is essentially $25.5 million better off under his new deal than playing on the franchise tag for one year primarily because of a $42.4 million option bonus, which is the largest in NFL history, he will receive in 2022. Allen would still be ahead under his new deal by about $4 million after two franchise tags in 2022 and 2023. An option bonus is essentially an additional signing bonus that's usually paid in the second or third year of a contract to exercise later years in the deal. Since an option bonus is given the same treatment on the salary cap as signing bonus, it is also prorated or evenly spread out over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. The Bills will pay the $42.4 million bonus to exercise the option on Allen's 2028 contract year. Otherwise Allen's 2022 base salary is a fully guaranteed $46.5 million with a $50,292,281 salary cap number instead of $16,372,281. Allen's 2022 base salary reduces to a fully guaranteed $4.1 million when the option is exercised. The Bills also used this signing/option bonus structure with offensive tackle Dion Dawkins and cornerback Tre'Davious White's extensions last year. Neither player is in the best position to maximize career earnings with the choices in contract length. Trying to maximize career earnings was a primary reason why Prescott and the Cowboys were unable to reach an agreement last summer when he was initially given a franchise tag. Prescott wanted a four-year deal so he would be able to take advantage of the salary cap exploding in the coming years thanks to new media-rights deals, reportedly worth $113 billion over 11 years and an influx of gambling revenue while the Cowboys were insisting on a longer term. Most likely, the Bills will attempt to extend Allen's deal in 2028 when he is heading into his contract year. Allen would need to sign a four-year, $192 million extension averaging $48 million per year in 2028 to match Mahomes' $450 million of new money over 10 new years. Seven years from now, there could be multiple quarterbacks with contracts averaging $50 million per year or more. Mahomes' saving grace may be that his contract is renegotiated at some point in the latter half when it will surely become outdated by quarterback salary standards.

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