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Fyi if we cut Patrick today his dead cap charge would be over 99.5 million. Just lol

No it wasn't. Salaries through 2022 are all fully guaranteed. The last 2 years are team friendly but only if he's traded and only to the team taking him on, but it definitely was not team friendly for Atlanta with all the bonuses making the cap hits really high. This year it would necessitate clearing around 6 mil in cap room to accommodate his salary plus we'd be tight against the cap even if we did that meaning you'd really need to clear out 10 at least. Not saying it's not doable. An HB extension could take care of all that and that should be coming after the draft.

Watch it please. Not necessary.

Do they mean while he was playing hurt?

Truly the gift that keeps on giving

Poo on you too

It's so cute to watch them grow up before your eyes. So precious.

Who are "some" and where are they saying that? I've not seen that. Anybody that think Remmers was better than Schwartz needs their head examined. Schwartz is the best lineman we've had since the Vermeil days. Not to disparage Remmers; he did a great job. But Schwartz was playing chess and Remmers was playing checkers. They're on 2 different levels. Schwartz could teach a clinic on technique.

All good, I was being salty. Of course we all know you can't judge any trade up front, but it's still fun to try.

I said he can say shit, not you

lol you're on a message board brah. Literally it's sole purpose is useless chatter. Also you can say shit here

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Remmers didn't allow a sack on the right side last year. He was a great low cost vet signing. Frankly he played much better for us than he did for the giants. They can't all be all pros. You need vet contracts like this.

Peter King on the trade. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/26/2021-nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ News item: On Friday, Baltimore traded tackle Orlando Brown plus a second-round pick this year and a sixth next year to Kansas City for first, third and fourth-round picks this year and a fifth next year. Background: Entering this offseason, Baltimore knew right tackle Brown wanted to play left tackle, and with Ronnie Stanley capably manning the left side for the Ravens, that chance wasn’t going to materialize. But with Brown a year before free agency and with the cap tight this year and next for many teams, the market wasn’t as frenetic as you’d think for a 24-year-old tackle able to play either side. Kansas City, however, was motivated to protect Patrick Mahomes well into the future with quality players. Finding a middle ground. Once Baltimore knew KC was sincerely interested, it was a matter of determining the value for the player. Not easy. In 2018, Brown was the 83rd pick overall, chosen in the middle of the third round. In his first three NFL seasons, he played right tackle for the Ravens and made two Pro Bowls. But he wanted to play left tackle, and he would need a new contract with his rookie deal expiring after 2021. So a team acquiring him would not only have to pay draft-pick compensation for him, but would have to sign him in 2022 to avoid making a big trade for a guy and then losing him after only a year or two if KC chose to franchise him in 2022. Baltimore GM Eric DeCosta and Kansas City GM Brett Veach sought a middle ground. The Ravens thought a pick low in the second round was poor value. Kansas City thought a first-round pick was too rich. So they borderline split the difference. They would try to frame a deal with a value for Brown between the 43rd and 45th pick, approximately—but Kansas City had a low first-round pick (31st overall), and so they’d have to figure out how to equalize the value. The draft trade value charts. You may have heard of these. Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys invented the first one in 1989, assigning every pick in the draft a numerical value, so that when a trade was being discussed, each side could put a mathematical number on picks and come to an agreement about the value of them. Johnson’s chart wasn’t perfect; it probably overrated picks in the top 10, didn’t account for the rising value of second and third-round picks in building rosters in recent years, nor did it account for players being traded who might not be with the acquiring team long-term. It was designed to simply dictate what, say, the 34th pick in the draft was worth when two teams were trading picks. When a player got involved, that was a different story. The two sides had to figure the draft-choice equivalent of that player, then work to exchange picks plus the player to make it equal. In this case, Veach had eight to 10 charts he used, while DeCosta had four, and they both had Johnson’s chart. So they began to work on the Chiefs figuring out how to give the Ravens value of a pick in the mid-forties. The result. On a chart designed by Chase Stuart of Football Perspective, widely quoted by respected scribe Bill Barnwell, adding up KC’s first, third, fourth and fifth-round picks, and getting a Baltimore second in return, was the equivalent of the Ravens getting the 23rd pick in return for Brown. Another chart KC used found that plugging in the same picks resulted in the value of the 75th pick. But then they calculated the Johnson trade chart. Kansas City’s first-round pick, 31st overall, was worth 600 points. The third-round pick, 94th, was worth 124 points, and the fourth, 136th overall, was worth 3.3 points. Add in the fifth next year, about three points, and that totaled up 730.3 points of value. Now you had to account for the Baltimore second-round pick this year, 58th overall, and sixth next year. That was worth about 330.4 points, per Johnson’s chart. So, there was 785.4 points of value from KC’s picks, and 330.4 points from the Baltimore pick. And 785.4 points minus 330.4 equals 455 points. That’s halfway between the 44th and 45th picks on the Johnson chart. So the value seemed fair. The Ravens got the low one plus three lesser picks from Kansas City for a player they’d likely keep just one more year, and KC got the low two plus a left tackle (they hope) of the future. Postcript. For the Ravens, they figure that the 31st pick they’ve acquired in this draft is not the value of the 31st pick on their board. When they acquired that pick, they think of it more like the 20th or 22nd pick. Why? Because they figure that when their board is stacked with finality this week, there will be a player ranked in the 20 to 22 range left on their board. That comes from experience. Every team doesn’t see the board the way the Ravens see it. The whole thing is fascinating to me.

Ugh, after reading sounds like a salary dump. They have to have it be a post June 1 trade in order to shed the salary as 2021 is fully guaranteed. We'd need a restructure or some serious cuts to take this on.

Cut us a deal. You owe us for Gonzo, AtL!

There's a few guys I like as developmental guys. I wouldn't mind on day 3 taking a stab.

Well, in their defense they forgot Veach was a mother fucking Sorcerer, but that was probably due to the annesia spell he put on them.

Rather like this one. Doesn't cover everything we need but doubles up on 2 thin positions with good value. Traded back from the Ravens 2nd rounder twice (no WR value there, missed on Tryon as well). Picked up the NYG 3rd next year in the process. I'm ignoring Bolton's shitty pro day. He's not an underwear athlete but he is a gamer who is athletic enough for the middle and will bring some needed toughness. He'll put a hurtin on dudes.

At this point we just really need to draft for the playoffs. That's why WR and DE are the 2 biggies to me. I just hope we can find some good picks at those positions. TE would also be up there but I don't think the value will fall to us like WR.

Yeah. I have Tremble in a lot of my mocks. Unfortunately I usually take him in the 3rd. If we like him, we probably have to take him in the 2nd now. I highly doubt he's there at 144. The freshman tight end might be the real deal though. lol he even looks like Gronk.

Yeah there's some possible tight ends in there but overall not a good tight end class at all after Pitts

Meh you only need to run to get defenses to back off and to break tendencies. Otherwise the right answer is give Pat the ball and let him make shit happen, as it's always a more efficient way to move the ball. Half of our run game is RPO's so if y'all want to bitch about running the ball more, talk to Pat not Andy. He's making the call on those. Frankly, Pat makes the right call most of the time.

This is about where I'm at. WR, DE, gap, then a bunch of other stuff... 2nd TE, LB, 3rd safety, LB, OC, OG in no particular order.

So in your dream scenario we would take Nick Niemann, his little brother, in the draft and have an all-Niemann nickel!