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You only get to call us dipshits if you donate.

Well you did find the link to last years thread so that's probably enough work for this year.

Sorry not seeing it.

PMs responded to. Sincere thanks to those that have donated so far.

It's called being an inspiration, thank you.

lol no breakdowns but you fuckers did turn my hair gray prematurely.

Thanks to those that have donated so far. We appreciate it. Rob, pm sent.

yeah, that was the problem. Not the 90's offensive gameplan.

yeah, your mom.

Bullshit. Most of it goes for cocaine. Then the rest to hookers and weed.

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Shady adds a lot to the RBBC we have going on. I would not like this if he was our sole lead back or we didn't have Andy Reid. But for the price, and our other talented rushers limiting his carries, this makes a ton of sense.

I think Peterson is a pipe dream at this point.

Oh that's gonna happen... And what comes after a billion?

Hey listen, a wounded spirit hurts. Just ask Phatal. I've actually written an epic poem about it: Phatal's soul broke Just as Alex's leg did A single, salty tear rolls down his cheek...

When the Kansas City Chiefs stunned the football world and traded for former Seahawks defensive end Frank Clark, comparisons to players who just departed were inevitable. Fans and analysts alike were quick to compare Clark to former Chief Dee Ford, as Kansas City chose to give up assets and give Clark a massive contract as opposed to simply paying Ford. These comparisons are something that will haunt Clark and Chiefs general manager Brett Veach over the next few years. As reported by The Athletic’s Nate Taylor, the Chiefs view Clark as one of the best defensive ends in the league, considering him an upgrade and superior fit in new defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo’s system over Ford and Justin Houston, who also recently left the team. The only thing to do now is go to the game film and see if Clark’s play justifies that sort of confidence. So I examined six games from last season, charting wins/losses/neutral plays against both the pass and the run, as well as pressures/hits/sacks, runs stuffed, effective double teams and chips drawn (a detailed explanation of those terms can be found here). Only by looking at every snap can a player’s impact and efficacy be gauged. Fortunately, we’ve already looked at Ford’s film from last season (that’s here) as well as Houston’s (here). Thanks to that, I can tell you this without any hesitation based on observing and charting hundreds of snaps of each player: Clark was better than Ford or Houston in 2018, and it really wasn’t all that close. There are a few major takeaways from these numbers. The first is that Clark’s numbers were remarkably consistent regardless of opponent. He never had a game with fewer than six “impacts” on the quarterback (a pressure/hit/sack), whereas both Ford and Houston had multiple games with fewer. This is why Clark had nine more impacts on the quarterback than either of the former Chiefs pass rushers in two fewer games charted. A big reason for this impact was Clark’s win/loss percentage, which was markedly better than either Ford’s or Houston’s in 2018. Clark’s win and loss percentage are both elite for an edge defender, and are even more impressive when it’s taken into account how often teams chipped him or shifted protection his way. Seattle lacked any other legitimate threat to rush the quarterback, so Clark largely had to make plays himself. In the meantime, Clark rarely lost as a run defender and was able to consistently make plus plays in that department. Clark’s pass rushing starts with his power, which jumps out immediately. Clark has long arms and extremely powerful hands. He also understands leverage and pad level, working to get himself in position to jar opponents backward. Tackles who aren’t properly set routinely get forced backward quickly. Most power rushers “walk” the opponent back into the quarterback’s lap. In Clark’s case, it looks a lot more like throwing. This allows him to win quickly with his bull-rushes and collect wins other power rushers may not. Clark’s favorite move is the long arm, and he’s highly successful with it. He has great hand placement and is generally able to swat away opposing tackles’ hands while getting his own hands inside their pads. Here, Chiefs right tackle Mitch Schwartz attempts to get Clark caught jumping offsides. This gives Clark a split-second advantage to get his inside arm on Schwartz and move him backward toward the quarterback. Clark’s length and power help him move even an elite right tackle when given the opportunity, and he’s able to hit the quarterback — Patrick Mahomes gets rid of the ball because he’s a wizard — and prevent the play from developing. Schwartz was among several top-end tackles who faced Clark in the games I reviewed, and he was the only one who consistently won against Clark. Both Andrew Whitworth and Tyron Smith had multiple snaps in which Clark was able to beat them. This is in part because Clark will transition his power moves if not successful in gaining leverage at the snap. This snap is a good example of Clark transitioning when things aren’t going as planned. He initially starts to rush outside, but the running back is waiting to chip. So he plants his foot and drives inside to bull rush, getting his hands inside Smith’s pads and generating some push. However, Smith has his feet set and is able to hold his ground. For many rushers, the play would be over at this point. Clark doesn’t quit, though, and immediately takes advantage of Smith pushing back against the bull rush by transitioning to a push/pull move. This allows him to take advantage of Smith’s momentum and get him off-balance. Clark then uses Smith to pull himself around like a slingshot toward the quarterback. This is the sort of cat-and-mouse game that’s required to beat great tackles, and Clark is able to get around Smith and hit the quarterback (though he can’t finish, as the slippery Dak Prescott wriggles away). Clark is still not completely polished with his pass-rush plans, but he repeatedly showed that sort of thought on his snaps rather than sticking with one move. During the games charted, he utilized bull rushes, long arms, rips, spins, stutter steps, hand slaps, push-pulls and pure speed rushes. At only 25, he already has a wide variety of moves and seems to use them in a complementary fashion. What makes Clark so difficult to block is that he’s not just a power rusher. He’s athletic for his size and can get a great jump at the snap. Most power rushers don’t have a great first step. This allows tackles to cheat a bit and keep their weight focused on pushing back rather than quickly getting depth. The problem with doing this against Clark is that there’s a risk he’ll blow right past the tackle. Clark doesn’t possess great bend around the edge, but he has just enough to be functional when combined with his strength and hand-fighting. When he gets a good first step, he can be tough to stop, especially if the quarterback doesn’t see him coming and steps up. Clark mixes speed rushes in with power rushes and doesn’t allow tackles to play him any certain way. He’s also able to adapt when it doesn’t appear he’ll get around the edge and will utilize both power and speed moves to works his way back inside. He catches tackles off-balance in this way. Another method in Clark’s arsenal of pass-rush moves is a quick inside step, usually accompanied by a rip move or hand slap. This takes advantage of his speed at the snap and tackles who are preparing for him to go outside. Clark will generally take a step or two toward the outside to set up the tackle, then move inside too fast for his opponent to adjust. In this case, Clark utilized a hand slap to keep the tackle away from him while he moved to the inside and was able to generate immediate pressure. The combination of his quickness and hand strength, along with the accuracy of his slap, led to a quick win. The final move Clark will utilize is a spin to the inside after a fake speed rush or long arm. This move is still a work in progress, but it’s one he used with some success as the year went along. This is exactly what pass rushing with a plan looks like. Clark shows that he’ll be working to the outside and even throws up his inside hand momentarily as though he’ll attempt to make contact with the tackle. When his opponent attempts to catch his inside hand, Clark immediately transitions into a spin. This works as a perfect counter to Clark’s usual array of rushes, but he’ll need to continue to refine it. Another asset Clark brings to the table is experience in working stunts, which the Seahawks asked him to do quite frequently. When working inside on a stunt, Clark was tough for guards to stop on the inside due to his power. Clark is a great fit for the Chiefs’ new scheme with his combination of athleticism and power. He and defensive lineman Chris Jones should be a nightmare to deal with when lined up on the same side. Clark isn’t an unstoppable pass rusher, though; there are still areas he can improve. He tends to rely too much on his long arm and bull-rush moves, and at times he’ll get caught trying to push a tackle who is set up well and stonewalls him completely. Schwartz was able to beat him multiple times when the long arm proved ineffective, and Clark often wasn’t able to come up with an effective counter. An additional issue Clark must deal with is his lack of elite bend. Because he can’t corner the way other edge rushers can, he will at times get pushed wide even when he has a good jump at the snap. Given Clark’s size, it’s unlikely he’ll improve much in this area. He does possess good balance, which counters his lack of flexibility a bit, but he’ll never be an elite speed threat. As a run defender, Clark brings a great deal to the table. With his long arms and power, he’s generally able to set the edge effectively. He also is athletic enough to do more than simply hold up at the edge, as he’s able to move blockers aside and attack the ball carrier as well. That’s an aggressive block by one of the most powerful left tackles in the NFL, and Clark is able to not only keep himself from being moved off the ball, he’s able to jar Smith and open a lane to attack the running back. He hits and finishes, wrapping up a leg and allowing other defenders to come help. When Clark is asked to hold up at the point of attack, he’s generally able to keep blockers off his body. He can be overwhelmed by multiple blockers and doesn’t possess the elite overall strength that Houston did at his peak, but he’s well above average in this area and is active and aggressive while keeping his eyes on the ball. Clark is also a good gap shooter who will at times burst into the backfield and bring plays to a crashing halt. He’s fast enough at the line of scrimmage that when blockers are asked to move laterally to reach him, he’ll often beat them to the spot. When asked to play in pursuit, Clark is not an elite athlete like Ford or peak Houston. He doesn’t have the speed to move down the line as quickly as either of them. However, he has good recognition and is relentless in how long he will chase down a play. There were several downs in which Clark made a tackle across the field 10 yards past the line of scrimmage after failures elsewhere along the defense. His motor doesn’t turn off when the ball is away from him, and he’s a strong tackler when he arrives. The comparisons are inevitable: Clark vs. Ford. The reality is that, on film, Clark is a more consistent, well-rounded pass rusher who wins at a higher rate, loses at a lower rate and impacts the quarterback more often. He is also able to hold his own against elite competition in a way Ford was not. As a run defender, he’s significantly stronger at the point of attack and much more likely to assist in making plays at or near the line of scrimmage. He’s a superior player, much more comparable to Khalil Mack or Demarcus Lawrence than Ford. With Clark on board, the Chiefs’ front 4 (assuming they signed Alex Okafor to a 3-year, $18 million deal to start) will consist of Clark, Derrick Nnadi, Chris Jones and Okafor. An argument can be made for that being one of the strongest groups up front in the NFL. Spagnuolo’s defenses have always been at their best with a strong and versatile front, and now the Chiefs have it (along with intriguing young rotational players). Will the trade and contract be worth it? That’s impossible to say. The only thing that can be said now is that the Chiefs absolutely upgraded at the defensive end spot by acquiring Clark. It will be exciting to see how that plays out when the season begins. (Photo: Joe Nicholson/USA TODAY Sports

Uh NO Sherlock. Guys can't play in the NFL when they're hurt. My buddy Dee told me, and he should know.

Negotiations are still ongoing the last few weeks for Chris Jones so I believe they wanted to maintain some flexibility this year.

Looks like we may find out something today

Barnwell is using the Chase Stuart chart which places less value on high 1st round picks and more value on day 2 picks. And he's not even reading that chart correctly. Using the Stuart chart wed be about the same place as the Jimmy Johnson chart. The other thing is, while I personally prefer Stuart's chart, teams don't use it; they use variations on the Jimmy Johnson chart. And again, he didn't even read the Stuart chart correctly.

Letting Frank Clark walk would be tough to overcome for the Seattle Seahawks BY AUSTIN GAYLE • SEATTLE SEAHAWKS • FRANK CLARK • FEB 18, 2019 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-letting-frank-clark-walk-would-be-tough-to-overcome-for-the-seattle-seahawks The Seattle Seahawks’ defense can’t afford to get much worse from a pass-rushing perspective in 2019, and getting worse is exactly what would ensue if veteran edge defender Frank Clark walks this offseason. Through the regular season, Seattle recorded pressure on just 31.5% of the opponent’s dropbacks, tied for 23rd in the NFL. And Clark, whose contract expires in March, tallied a whopping 24.6% of his team’s total pressures, the fifth-highest market share of any defender in the NFL in 2018. Seattle loses its best pass rusher, a considerable percentage of its total pass-rush production and a rising superstar if the team’s brass chooses to cut ties with Clark; his value can’t be overstated. Clark, a 25-year-old Michigan alumnus, was kicked off the Wolverines’ football team after a 2014 domestic violence arrest. He slid in the 2015 NFL Draft as a result, but Clark’s free fall only lasted to the 67th overall pick in the second round because of his on-field ability. Prior to his dismissal from Michigan’s football program, Clark earned an FBS-high 92.1 overall grade in 2014, and, to add perspective, Joey Bosa (91.7), Trey Flowers (91.2) and Myles Garrett (90.5) ranked second, third and fourth, respectively, that season. He also tied for 11th in pass-rush win percentage among the 262 FBS edge defenders with 150-plus pass-rush snaps in 2014. He was easily one of the most talented edge defenders in the 2015 NFL Draft. And his talents have followed to the NFL. Clark’s three-year (2016-18) pass-rush grade (79.2) ranks tied for 18th among the 50 NFL edge defenders with at least 1,500 defensive snaps in that span. He turned in a career year in multiple respects in 2018, as well, logging career-best marks in terms of total pressures (67), pass-rush win percentage (17.5%) and pressure percentage (17.5%). In the play below, Clark flashes his strength and bull-rush ability against Oakland Raiders rookie offensive tackle Kolton Miller in 2018. His ability to beat blocks with strength, speed and hand technique all improved significantly this past season. San Francisco 49ers rookie offensive tackle Mike McGlinchey also played a part in Clark’s bull-rush highlight reel. Per Jason Fitzgerald of Over the Cap, Clark and his ability to ruin opposing offensive linemen will cost “for something in the $17 million (per year) range.” Fitzgerald’s latest contract projection for Clark is five years, $87.5 million with $53 million guaranteed. If Seattle can’t find that kind of money in the cap this offseason, Clark will find ample suitors waving similar if not more expensive contracts elsewhere – a situation that would cost the Seahawks dearly.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-buyingselling-the-top-free-agent-pass-rushers-in-2018 FRANK CLARK – BUY Clark is young and consistent – a fantastic combo to project going forward. He’ll turn 26 later this year and has three straight seasons with 10-plus sacks. It’s not simply the yearly consistency, but also the game to game. He didn’t have a single game this past season with fewer than two pressures. DEE FORD – SELL Ford is the anti-Frank Clark at this point; the consistency over his career has been non-existent. Seemingly minor injuries have neutered his effectiveness over the years. His 84 pressures this season including the playoffs were 30 more than any other season of his career. The high end is there, but in such a deep free agent class, there’s no reason to break the bank for him. The franchise tag is nearly a certainty.