Calichief 3,024 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Weddle is too old for my taste. Stay young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I would be thrilled with Weddel as a couple year stopgap. Talk about a tone setter - there might not be a better football mind and instincts at the position in the league. Dude looked like a stud last year while QB-ing the number 1 defense in the league. Watts, Lucas, Weddel and Berry/draft pick would be a solid safety group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Calichief said: Weddle is too old for my taste. Stay young With little Cap Space Weddle makes sense for one or two seasons. He played way better than any chief last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Say yes to Weddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Wouldn't mind waddle at all. Thought he said if the ravens didn't bring him back he was going to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Troyofoc said: Wouldn't mind waddle at all. Thought he said if the ravens didn't bring him back he was going to retire. Never mind saw his tweet saying he is excited to see where he ends up next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, FANATIC said: Nelson likely Gone to Free Agency? Spags prefers big corners. Nelson isn’t small probably not worth a big contract to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Say yes to Weddle 34 years old, the Chiefs won't sign him. They don't even want to keep guys that are 28 years old like Dee Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I suspect the market for safeties is going to be soft this year like it was last year, especially with the number of good free agent safeties available. I think we need to cut Berry and sign two free agents. We can sign two guys with the savings from cutting Berry and turn a position of weakness into a position of strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, VIChiefsFan said: I suspect the market for safeties is going to be soft this year like it was last year, especially with the number of good free agent safeties available. I think we need to cut Berry and sign two free agents. We can sign two guys with the savings from cutting Berry and turn a position of weakness into a position of strength. With Berry's dead cap number, you don't save much by cutting him. Like a million and half I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 What about Berry playing FS? Use Collins as SS and let Berry roam as needed. If Berry cant get or stay healthy then you have Collins still and our other guys too. This way Berry is gone then next year and we can sign one of Fuller or Jones and use a tag if only one signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, kkuenn said: What about Berry playing FS? Use Collins as SS and let Berry roam as needed. If Berry cant get or stay healthy then you have Collins still and our other guys too. This way Berry is gone then next year and we can sign one of Fuller or Jones and use a tag if only one signs. Berry can absolutely play free safety. He has all the time. He did in his last three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: Berry can absolutely play free safety. He has all the time. He did in his last three games. Yes I thought so, but some were saying why sign him when we have Berry playing that role already. Even if both played SS and Berry could actually stay healthy I would still sign Collins. Might cost us a bit more but releasing it trading Houston and then trading Ford is going to release a bunch of money. Get us a safety, go after another need in FA like CB, DL or LB and draft then from what we need left with BPA also in play like a TE falling to us if we went offense and it would not kill us using a pick early on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Does anyone really think some other team would trade for Houston with his contract? He'll have to be released. Ford might have some trade value, but I doubt it will be real high. The Chiefs are stuck with Berry's contract so might as well keep him and see what he can do. They still need Collins IMHO. Collins and Watts and/or Lucas could be an acceptable position group and the Chiefs could focus on CB, ILB, and Edge in the defensive part of their draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: Does anyone really think some other team would trade for Houston with his contract? He'll have to be released. Ford might have some trade value, but I doubt it will be real high. The Chiefs are stuck with Berry's contract so might as well keep him and see what he can do. They still need Collins IMHO. Collins and Watts and/or Lucas could be an acceptable position group and the Chiefs could focus on CB, ILB, and Edge in the defensive part of their draft. I'd be very surprised if anyone trades for Houston and I think Fords value is a 2nd rounder. We could build our future safety position around Watts and Collins. That would make sense from economic impact too. How does Spags see Watts is probably a huge part of that. This scenario does protect us next year from Berry's situation and give us a legit future plan. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Spags is going to get a few players he wants to rebuild this group including possibly a high profile free agent like perhaps Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: I'd be very surprised if anyone trades for Houston and I think Fords value is a 2nd rounder. We could build our future safety position around Watts and Collins. That would make sense from economic impact too. How does Spags see Watts is probably a huge part of that. This scenario does protect us next year from Berry's situation and give us a legit future plan. Maybe I'm wrong but I think Spags is going to get a few players he wants to rebuild this group including possibly a high profile free agent like perhaps Collins. Is cutting Berry after June 1st an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, FANATIC said: Is cutting Berry after June 1st an option? Wouldn't he still cost the Chiefs a boat load of cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: Wouldn't he still cost the Chiefs a boat load of cap space? Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. Someone , on this board, more knowledgeable than me has the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 50 minutes ago, reesebobby said: With Berry's dead cap number, you don't save much by cutting him. Like a million and half I think. I was thinking they would designate him a post-June 1 cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, jetlord said: Wouldn't he still cost the Chiefs a boat load of cap space? By not designating him post-June 1st all the dead cap goes to this year. We would save like $1.5 million this year and then he is off the books. By designating him post-June 1, $8 million of dead cap is still on next year's books. We save $9.5 million against the cap this year and $5.5 million against the cap next year. And a crap ton the next two years after that too. Plenty of money to pick up a good free agent safety and someone else too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, VIChiefsFan said: By not designating him post-June 1st all the dead cap goes to this year. We would save like $1.5 million this year and then he is off the books. By designating him post-June 1, $8 million of dead cap is still on next year's books. We save $9.5 million against the cap this year and $5.5 million against the cap next year. And a crap ton the next two years after that too. Plenty of money to pick up a good free agent safety and someone else too. So do you think KC will or should cut him after June 1st? Can they use that money saved to extend current player contracts? Maybe pick up other post June 1st cuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, FANATIC said: Is cutting Berry after June 1st an option? The problem with that is that he 7.25 million dollars of his 2019 salary becomes guaranteed in nine days. I don't think you can do a post June 1 cut and get around paying that. They will either cut bait next week or more likely just roll with him and see what we can get next year before releasing him. Again had Dorsey just signed him and not applied franchise tag, we would have more flexibility today. Moral is if you plan to retain a player, don't tag him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,121 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, FANATIC said: So do you think KC will or should cut him after June 1st? Can they use that money saved to extend current player contracts? Maybe pick up other post June 1st cuts? Cutting him post June 1st just pushes that cap hit to next year. I say we keep him and hope for the best. If during the season he can't go I'm sure we could work out an injury settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 154 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I believe Collins played FS his rookie year...so he has that ability as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, FANATIC said: Not sure. I have read conflicting reports. Someone , on this board, more knowledgeable than me has the answer. You can spread the dead money out over 2 years so it gives you a little more cap room. The problem is that the money you free up with his release isnt available to spend until June second. Free agency has dried up by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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