Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, ChiefsFoolFan said: Our secondary cannot cover guys for 10 seconds if we have no pass rush .... you are right about our rush disappearing in key games. I don't disagree with you at all. I just think its clear the core group we had last year failed on defense and keeping them together when the CAP hits for Houston, Ford and Berry combined to be over 45 million makes no sense. And yet much like the never ending slew of backup QBs this organization used to run through here, it was that status quo. I realize we aren't as talented today as we were on Jan 15th. But these moves give us a better opportunity to get where we need to go. I actually see the Chiefs using this wave of huge national appeal to make some tough unpopular decisions and actually make us a long term power in this league. Doesn't mean I like every move, but I do appeciate the general direction I think they are trying to go. Make us not only great, but great for a long term period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefsFoolFan 149 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: I don't disagree with you at all. I just think its clear the core group we had last year failed on defense and keeping them together when the CAP hits for Houston, Ford and Berry combined to be over 45 million makes no sense. And yet much like the never ending slew of backup QBs this organization used to run through here, it was that status quo. I realize we aren't as talented today as we were on Jan 15th. But these moves give us a better opportunity to get where we need to go. I actually see the Chiefs using this wave of huge national appeal to make some tough unpopular decisions and actually make us a long term power in this league. Doesn't mean I like every move, but I do appeciate the general direction I think they are trying to go. Make us not only great, but great for a long term period. I like where your head is at MLoe ... and I am cool with the moves they have made, but I am a bit nervous. I am curious what the plan is for pass rushers. Do we roll with Kpass & Speaks at DE? Do we bump Chris Jones out to DE? Obviously there are going to be significant roster moves made between now and opening day. I just hope we don't see a repeat of last year where we brought in a bunch of scrubs to start in the secondary and relied on Berry to be the Berry of old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,598 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiefsFoolFan said: I like where your head is at MLoe ... and I am cool with the moves they have made, but I am a bit nervous. I am curious what the plan is for pass rushers. Do we roll with Kpass & Speaks at DE? Do we bump Chris Jones out to DE? Obviously there are going to be significant roster moves made between now and opening day. I just hope we don't see a repeat of last year where we brought in a bunch of scrubs to start in the secondary and relied on Berry to be the Berry of old. Heavy DL draft. I think we go DE in the draft. Get a CB like Darby and if we can get Dix at FS then we will be set for the draft and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChiefsFoolFan said: I like where your head is at MLoe ... and I am cool with the moves they have made, but I am a bit nervous. I am curious what the plan is for pass rushers. Do we roll with Kpass & Speaks at DE? Do we bump Chris Jones out to DE? Obviously there are going to be significant roster moves made between now and opening day. I just hope we don't see a repeat of last year where we brought in a bunch of scrubs to start in the secondary and relied on Berry to be the Berry of old. I think Speaks and Jones are inside and could be formidable. Not sure I would call myself any more than hopeful about KPass though. We can't and shouldn't try to fix all these defections in free agency. We've got to be good on draft day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: Chris Jones led the team in sacks. We have no idea what KPass or Speaks can do as 4-3 defensive ends. Honey Badger is an effective pass rusher and we are yet to draft. Plus we have a new coordinator that is known for creating pressure. Why do you think that is? I would argue teams were worried about Houston and Ford leaving him one on one a lot. Ow all they have to worry about is Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The Chiefs are hosting free agent CB Ronald Darby on Wednesday night. Most free agents aren't going on visits nowadays, but Darby needs to coming off a torn ACL in Week 10. If Darby passes a physical, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports there is a good chance the Chiefs will sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetlord 10,209 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Balto said: Now with Berry gone I’d love to get Darby AND HaHa signed. I'd go for Darby if he's healthy and an Edge. HB, Watts, Lucas, and a draft choice can cover the safety positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ChiefsFoolFan said: Balto, When are we going to see one of your famous Balto-mock-offseasons? It would involve trading for Patrick Peterson or Jalen Ramsey for sure!!!! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Spfdchiefsfan said: Why do you think that is? I would argue teams were worried about Houston and Ford leaving him one on one a lot. Ow all they have to worry about is Jones. He had a sack every game when Houston was out of the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I think you could also argue that Chris Jones emerged and that allowed dee ford to have a career year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: I think you could also argue that Chris Jones emerged and that allowed dee ford to have a career year. Very good point.....but don’t say it to loud or Veach might trade him! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said: Backup for Darby OR will we try to sign both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Balto said: Backup for Darby OR will we try to sign both? Who knows. Veach said he was attacking CB aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I’d rather focus on our now big hole at safety. I never saw Badger as a Berry replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 With us now having Patrick Peterson’s best friend on the team maybe he tells Cards FO he wants traded again.....would fix CB and then we also sign HaHa to pair with Badger. Yes I like to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 We did tender jordan lucas, I guess im the only one who likes him at safety. I dont think its a disaster to have him and watts in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I like watts but isn't he more of a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Troyofoc said: I like watts but isn't he more of a free. So what's wrong with Watts at free and HB as SS? Those definitions seem to get blurred with all the defense variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 😄😄😄😄😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 lmbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 hours ago, SEMO said: 😄😄😄😄😄 shouldn't that read "wish him all the best at his next drop" 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 18 hours ago, xen said: What type of player? Non-murderers? Ahhhh....I can always count on you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 16 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Surprising a team in a rebuild mode of sorts would spend like that on a 31 year old isn't it? That said I love Earl Thomas. He's been the best safety in football since he was drafted. Ravens have on "rebuilt" once- 2002-2003 They are more of a "reload" team. Losing Suggs and Zadarius Smith who combined for 16 sacks last year is not a big deal- they got a qtr of that in one game. At that money, it wasn't worth it. Suggs had 1.5 down the stretch... Thomas is a playmaker at 29 (turns 30 in May) so he is 3-4 years older than the Honey Badger but at a cheaper price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: Ravens have on "rebuilt" once- 2002-2003 They are more of a "reload" team. Losing Suggs and Zadarius Smith who combined for 16 sacks last year is not a big deal- they got a qtr of that in one game. At that money, it wasn't worth it. Suggs had 1.5 down the stretch... Thomas is a playmaker at 29 (turns 30 in May) so he is 3-4 years older than the Honey Badger but at a cheaper price Not really. The average is about 250k less per year, but the ravens are locked in for longer with the guarantees in that contract, whereas I would bet KC has an out on HB after year 2. Could be worth it for Thomas, but who knows. Seems high for a 3rd contract guy, but hey if it works out on the field then it's all good. Btw I agree it's not that big of a deal with the pass rushers you lost. One's old and the other was pretty mediocre. Pretty similiar to what we jettisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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