kcchief4lif 910 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 INDIANAPOLIS — The Colts finally made the big splash everybody expected in free agency. Indianapolis has signed former Chiefs pass rusher Justin Houston, a league source confirmed to IndyStar. ESPN and the NFL Network originally reported the news. The Colts add the premier edge rusher a week after Houston was released by Kansas City due to his contract. ESPN reported that Houston signed for two years and $24 million. Houston, 30, has 78.5 sacks in nine years, and he had nine sacks for the Chiefs last season in 12 games. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/03/21/indianapolis-colts-land-big-name-free-agent-pass-rusher-justin-houston-2019-free-agency/3237837002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Not unexpected. But man that turf on his sore knees seems like a bad combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 hmmm...I think if he would have restructured he could have gotten a more favourable deal from us. Pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, VIChiefsFan said: hmmm...I think if he would have restructured he could have gotten a more favourable deal from us. Pride. I'm not real sure he's worth 12 mil a year. Colts already have Luck nailed down and PM2's salary will most likely dwarf his also at the time the Chiefs were thinking big bucks to Tyreek and Jones. I wish him luck on that turf. will we get a comp pick for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I'm not real sure he's worth 12 mil a year. Colts already have Luck nailed down and PM2's salary will most likely dwarf his also at the time the Chiefs were thinking big bucks to Tyreek and Jones. I wish him luck on that turf. will we get a comp pick for him? I think we released him so no comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, reesebobby said: I think we released him so no comp pick. Correct, No comp pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Balto said: Correct, No comp pick A lot of people think I'm like a super genius or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,251 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 no wonder players like Suh & Berry are still thinking of big money.. Between Houston and Matthews they still have hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarcasticOne 24 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Being in the Ring of Honor is, well, an honor. Houston left the Chiefs for money. Would the Chiefs had kept him if he restructured? Evidently the subject was broached and he refused. Houston went for the most money he could make, although he is probably worth, what $50-$75 million? It is his choice and I don't begrudge him that. But I don't think he should ever be considered for the Ring of Honor. That place is for those who sacrificed for the Chiefs, not those get a big contract and try and fulfill it, which he did, nor those who go for whoever has the biggest bucks. I know some will disagree with me. I know he played and gave his 100% while he was here. He also got "paid" tens of millions and left the Chiefs to get "paid" yet once again. Oh, and as far as Eric Berry, I hope they name the bench, the one the players sit on during games, after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: I'm not real sure he's worth 12 mil a year. There is talk of us trading for a guy like Jadeveon Clowney, who is currently on the tag for about $16 million. That would cost us more money and picks. They are about equal in sacks, I have no idea how Clowney compares to Houston against the run, but I always thought Houston was good. I believe Clowney has also had trouble staying healthy. We also know what Ford got. I think the Colts got a bargain at $12 million as long as Houston is healthy for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, VIChiefsFan said: There is talk of us trading for a guy like Jadeveon Clowney, who is currently on the tag for about $16 million. That would cost us more money and picks. They are about equal in sacks, I have no idea how Clowney compares to Houston against the run, but I always thought Houston was good. I believe Clowney has also had trouble staying healthy. We also know what Ford got. I think the Colts got a bargain at $12 million as long as Houston is healthy for the playoffs. source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, VIChiefsFan said: There is talk of us trading for a guy like Jadeveon Clowney, who is currently on the tag for about $16 million. That would cost us more money and picks. They are about equal in sacks, I have no idea how Clowney compares to Houston against the run, but I always thought Houston was good. I believe Clowney has also had trouble staying healthy. We also know what Ford got. I think the Colts got a bargain at $12 million as long as Houston is healthy for the playoffs. Clowney, if healthy is younger and fits the 4-3 mild better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: A lot of people think I'm like a super genius or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, SarcasticOne said: Being in the Ring of Honor is, well, an honor. Houston left the Chiefs for money. Would the Chiefs had kept him if he restructured? Evidently the subject was broached and he refused. Houston went for the most money he could make, although he is probably worth, what $50-$75 million? It is his choice and I don't begrudge him that. But I don't think he should ever be considered for the Ring of Honor. That place is for those who sacrificed for the Chiefs, not those get a big contract and try and fulfill it, which he did, nor those who go for whoever has the biggest bucks. I know some will disagree with me. I know he played and gave his 100% while he was here. He also got "paid" tens of millions and left the Chiefs to get "paid" yet once again. Oh, and as far as Eric Berry, I hope they name the bench, the one the players sit on during games, after him. I think it works both ways...they offered him the contract they both signed. Then KC wanted to redo it, why is Houston in the wrong for pursuing the best livelihood he can make for the last few years he is able to earn in this game? May be be older, but he's still a difference maker and left it all on the field. I will miss him far more than Berry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, xen said: source? No real credible sources, just people on forums talking. The point was that I think Houston is still every bit as good a player as Clowney but for quite a bit cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,251 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, SarcasticOne said: Being in the Ring of Honor is, well, an honor. Houston left the Chiefs for money. Would the Chiefs had kept him if he restructured? Evidently the subject was broached and he refused. Houston went for the most money he could make, although he is probably worth, what $50-$75 million? It is his choice and I don't begrudge him that. But I don't think he should ever be considered for the Ring of Honor. That place is for those who sacrificed for the Chiefs, not those get a big contract and try and fulfill it, which he did, nor those who go for whoever has the biggest bucks. I know some will disagree with me. I know he played and gave his 100% while he was here. He also got "paid" tens of millions and left the Chiefs to get "paid" yet once again. Oh, and as far as Eric Berry, I hope they name the bench, the one the players sit on during games, after him. Tony Gonzalez got in the ROH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, VIChiefsFan said: No real credible sources, just people on forums talking. The point was that I think Houston is still every bit as good a player as Clowney but for quite a bit cheaper. Not cheaper to KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Balto said: Not cheaper to KC The dead money is there either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 18 hours ago, KC Warpaint said: no wonder players like Suh & Berry are still thinking of big money.. Between Houston and Matthews they still have hope Nobody in their right mind will give Berry a big contract unless its completely incentive laden. And Suh is 35 years old? Isn't Mathews about the same? Justin though is 5 years younger and has played in most games the past few years. He warranted more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 hours ago, VIChiefsFan said: No real credible sources, just people on forums talking. The point was that I think Houston is still every bit as good a player as Clowney but for quite a bit cheaper. Clowney is 5 years younger, playing at a higher level and trending up, the opposite for Houston Clowney 9 sacks, 47 tackles, 16 TFL, 21 QB hits 89 PFF grade Houston 9 sacks, 37 tackles, 8 TFL, 12 QB hits 85 PFF grade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: Clowney is 5 years younger, playing at a higher level and trending up, the opposite for Houston Clowney 9 sacks, 47 tackles, 16 TFL, 21 QB hits 89 PFF grade Houston 9 sacks, 37 tackles, 8 TFL, 12 QB hits 85 PFF grade Just out of curiosity, what do you think Clowney is worth in today's market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, VIChiefsFan said: Just out of curiosity, what do you think Clowney is worth in today's market? Probably looking for a 5 year deal over 90 million and most importantly about 50 million guaranteed. My guess anyway. The way the Chiefs have been hesitant to give anyone a long term deal, that probably means he would be headed to a team like the Jets or Cleveland if the Texans traded him. But I'd bet they could certainly get a first rounder for him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Mloe68 said: Probably looking for a 5 year deal over 90 million and most importantly about 50 million guaranteed. My guess anyway. The way the Chiefs have been hesitant to give anyone a long term deal, that probably means he would be headed to a team like the Jets or Cleveland if the Texans traded him. But I'd bet they could certainly get a first rounder for him too. To much for a 1sr rounder. Rather let him hit FA next year and see. We have a lot more cap space then too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: To much for a 1sr rounder. Rather let him hit FA next year and see. We have a lot more cap space then too Agree. I think its really clear Veach is building for the long term. He wants a young defense built around a few short term free agents to bridge the gap. He's gonna sink or swim largely based on his ability to get players in April. And this will also help nab that finishing piece type of free agent next season or after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 17 hours ago, VIChiefsFan said: The dead money is there either way. Yes but when you add the dead money on top of the base......He would of cost KC a ton more than $12/Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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