Handswarmer 645 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Marleydawg said: All you really need to know is that Andy Reid, Hall of Fame-bound QB guru, had his hands on both of them at the same time. He could have kept either or both. And he unapologetically shipped Smith off after seeing Mahomes play one game. Whatever stats/explanations/excuses you want to throw out there can't dispute that. Pretty sure the writing was on the wall for Alex once PM was drafted, not after playing a meaningless game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 11 hours ago, PhataLerror said: I considered Smith a top quarterback. Not the best, but consistently one of the best, one that led his team to wins, and that was constantly tasked to make lemonade out of lemons, something a lot of the "elite" quarterbacks haven't had success with. just out of curiosity, would you take Smith (pre-broken leg) over Mahomes if you were hypothetically given that option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: Pretty sure the writing was on the wall for Alex once PM was drafted, not after playing a meaningless game. Alex had a limited clock the moment they choked against the Steelers. Pat just made it a laughably easy transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Handswarmer said: Pretty sure the writing was on the wall for Alex once PM was drafted, not after playing a meaningless game. For sure. Watching Alex scramble out of phantom pressure in the Steelers playoff game while Tyreek was breaking wide open TWICE, was truly the final straw. Finding Mahomes at that point was just a rare situation where availability and timing converged perfectly. That game vs Denver was just the final dress rehearsal where I’m sure Andy said it’s time. I actually think we win that Titans game had we made move then. But that would have been the wrong thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, liquidfriend said: Alex had a limited clock the moment they choked against the Steelers. Pat just made it a laughably easy transition. You probably should win a home playoff game when the defense doesn’t give up any TDs! That game still haunts me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: You probably should win a home playoff game when the defense doesn’t give up any TDs! That game still haunts me. Yep. The moment that game was in the books, I knew it was over. It was way too obvious he cost them that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, soonerborn77 said: just out of curiosity, would you take Smith (pre-broken leg) over Mahomes if you were hypothetically given that option? He would take him post broken leg over Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, reesebobby said: He would take him post broken leg over Mahomes. He would probably also take him up to Broke back Mountain in a tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Every team in the NFL would take Mahomes over their current starter.... w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, West said: Every team in the NFL would take Mahomes over their current starter.... w Probably true when you consider age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, West said: Every team in the NFL would take Mahomes over their current starter.... w Not only at QB but overall I don't see how he would not be the first player drafted if you re-drafted the entire NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,614 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: Not only at QB but overall I don't see how he would not be the first player drafted if you re-drafted the entire NFL Lol wonder what the 2017 first pick would be now? /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: Not only at QB but overall I don't see how he would not be the first player drafted if you re-drafted the entire NFL I guess that is assuming Smith is retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, reesebobby said: I guess that is assuming Smith is retiring. Funny! But I do think its a pretty interesting concept. Assuming he was completely healthy and the entire league redrafted again, its almost certain Mahomes goes top 2-3. But where would Smith go? I'm guessing in the 100-150 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: Funny! But I do think its a pretty interesting concept. Assuming he was completely healthy and the entire league redrafted again, its almost certain Mahomes goes top 2-3. But where would Smith go? I'm guessing in the 100-150 range. If you are just redrafting for a one season thing, I'd say 150 might be about right. That's late 4th. If you are doing a long term thing, his age would hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Funny! But I do think its a pretty interesting concept. Assuming he was completely healthy and the entire league redrafted again, its almost certain Mahomes goes top 2-3. But where would Smith go? I'm guessing in the 100-150 range. If you were drafting right now, current age and development factored in, for more than just this season, I think it's silly to say even top 2-3...who else would even be in the discussion? A QB would be first, Mahomes is already (at a minimum) the top QB younger than Rodgers, so it's choosing maybe 15 years of Mahomes vs. maybe 5 years of Rodgers or just a couple of years of Brady/Brees. If you were ONLY drafting for 2019 then I can see at least an argument for the other top QBs like Rodgers, but Mahomes would still be in consideration for #1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,025 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Stop with all the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Get Jalen Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCTech 125 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 10:24 AM, Mloe68 said: You probably should win a home playoff game when the defense doesn’t give up any TDs! That game still haunts me. I was at that game, sis got way too drunk and I had to take her to the car at the end of the third. I listened to the rest on the radio... It haunts me to this day. Stupid sisters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 21 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 So sorry over leaving the game. As really at least you drove. You are very brave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/25/2019 at 9:40 AM, PhataLerror said: Deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Trading a spectacular talent who will always be a suspension or release risk is a good move. We could get a very high draft choice or two or three choices or move up to get one of the top players on the board. If any team can survive losing him, it is a team with a QB like Mahomes. Mahomes can make any good receiver great. Hill has great hands, but his biggest use is stretching the field. Any reasonably fast receiver will stretch the field, because it is about risk to the defense, not the actual deep completionsm which are few. If we can get a high choice for him, it would seem to be a net overall gain. I doubt he would go to anyone in our division, though. If he stays, it is win/win. We get him for a lot less money on his next contract, which I think happens, anyway. A blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 1:41 PM, Fmbl2187 said: Trading a spectacular talent who will always be a suspension or release risk is a good move. We could get a very high draft choice or two or three choices or move up to get one of the top players on the board. If any team can survive losing him, it is a team with a QB like Mahomes. Mahomes can make any good receiver great. Hill has great hands, but his biggest use is stretching the field. Any reasonably fast receiver will stretch the field, because it is about risk to the defense, not the actual deep completionsm which are few. If we can get a high choice for him, it would seem to be a net overall gain. I doubt he would go to anyone in our division, though. If he stays, it is win/win. We get him for a lot less money on his next contract, which I think happens, anyway. A blessing in disguise. This whole deal has cost him money and trade value regardless of result. But right now until this plays out he’s got little value. We’ve just gotta cross our fingers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 the silence is deafening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: the silence is deafening Regarding this and everything else too. Keep waiting for some nugget of Chiefs news...crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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