jetlord 10,209 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 While we don't know yet whether Hill will be available full season or what further moves Veatch might make in FA, it seems obvious that the Chiefs needs center on eight positions. S, CB, LB, Edge, TE, RB, WR, and IOL. If you could fill those positions without reaching (won't happen) in what order would you draft to fill them? My list would start with an early round CB. The Chiefs are really undermanned there IMHO. LB would be the next priority. Wilson's history doesn't impress me. EDGE might be filled with Speaks, Okafor, and KPass, but KPass hasn't shown anything yet and the Chiefs probably need to get another Edge in the first three rounds to get good talent. They need a replacement for Harris at TE. Doesn't have to be the next Gonzo or Kelce, but they have to have a body that can block and catch a ball that hits his hands. Williams and Williams isn't enough at RB and the Chiefs have had pretty good luck in grabbing one in the third round. There's several who should be available there. WR would be my next priority. They can get by with what's on the roster now, but a speedster to replace Watkins or Hill would be nice. S is a need and OG/C could use an upgrade, but I don't see getting one until the third day unless some real talent drops. So CB, LB, Edge, TE would be my preferred draft order if talent is equal when the Chiefs pick. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 IMO ..if nothing has happened with Hill yet ,...it wont I realize the Hunt situation was different until TMZ suck their nose into everything but I believe the Chiefs/NFL got into this hard and fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Corner may be the weakest position group in this draft. RB is nothing to write home about either. Good year to revamp an offensive or defensive line though. I would lean into the strengths of this draft... o and d line, safety, tight end and find a receiver. If a corner you like falls to u then there u go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 There probably won't be a first round corner fall to the Chiefs. What's the opinion of Mullen, Rock Ya Sin, or Oruwariye in the second round or even trading down to get one in mid second round? With the Chiefs so close to being a good team, they might be drafting for need rather than overlapping the linemen. There's a few mocks out there that have a top Edge or DT falling to 29, but most do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 They've got to come away with a corner they feel comfortable with being the #1 Week 1. At all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, liquidfriend said: They've got to come away with a corner they feel comfortable with being the #1 Week 1. At all costs. Agree. There's going to be three CBs on the field a great deal of the time and no FA remaining can be a regular starter. I'm leaning toward Oruwariye but think reaching for him at #29 is a little too early. That's a reason to trade down a little and pick up another third, if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 We can’t get shredded in coverage again in every crucial moment. We have to find a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, jetlord said: There probably won't be a first round corner fall to the Chiefs. What's the opinion of Mullen, Rock Ya Sin, or Oruwariye in the second round or even trading down to get one in mid second round? With the Chiefs so close to being a good team, they might be drafting for need rather than overlapping the linemen. There's a few mocks out there that have a top Edge or DT falling to 29, but most do not. Mullen is probably the best press man corner of those three. I line Ya-Sin over Orouiuourowoeroiowie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 This has been a bizarre year for the CB debate. I've seen a lot of people tear DeAndre Baker apart for having questionable speed, but also like Rock Ya-Sin who has the same concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 hours ago, jetlord said: There probably won't be a first round corner fall to the Chiefs. What's the opinion of Mullen, Rock Ya Sin, or Oruwariye in the second round or even trading down to get one in mid second round? With the Chiefs so close to being a good team, they might be drafting for need rather than overlapping the linemen. There's a few mocks out there that have a top Edge or DT falling to 29, but most do not. I think Baker might fall or be close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, kkuenn said: I think Baker might fall or be close to it the Chiefs FB page just had a deal on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, oldtimer said: the Chiefs FB page just had a deal on him Link? Love to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, SEMO said: Mullen is probably the best press man corner of those three. I line Ya-Sin over Orouiuourowoeroiowie. Mullen looked good in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Link? Love to see it It might be easier to just go to the Chiefs FB page but here hope it works https://www.facebook.com/KansasCityChiefs/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARDAU-VEgrwZ_hMnoNii6v9-JR0BQ3Hm41qTz9MOCnsTK41XJw6IGZjhjDKwbx6bNQvqTXK5G2Ekwumi&hc_ref=ARQEvThk8guoJYEJAVC3xvPydRGctUzeT5OQdbat3lCzO3k1vpMGk22x6fT-9aNJjpc&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARDx2bza8oFRXu-gfJxSBwnacNV6jwk4TuM7I7fPZTpSSGW8mk9pPY9IpXb8QykyM4wG4BlMd5w0cmm-jDHn-7sDqYHu-Fq8bE4LUKAxkvR_w0nc4JvIn1orSIGAfN1XH_MXuHVMJ1ba5JkYmGrb3Db4s5pdB9A6QJ-edG-zKVMIP0FyiwTbtzEbvO_ZV4-NMD83NxVPx7bD1I5iU_gZrPSTeaNcZPJyz4MjHW6sZV8GxAZXlRxuUb143-_5CB30xjuz4PxjHFc6CCYNGz1u-xVkfHK_6tmziFR2ZYEYqUpbsMjhJ5wMJ6WtvOZBiDvFrGFAQoL_pEQnO0r3xwcM-uuaBQ4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 There's not many mocks out there that have Baker lasting until #29. It would be great if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 9 hours ago, jetlord said: There's not many mocks out there that have Baker lasting until #29. It would be great if he did. I thi k hes the best corner in the draft. But he isnt long and super athletic like Spags supposedly likes. He reminds me of Peters skillset tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: I thi k hes the best corner in the draft. But he isnt long and super athletic like Spags supposedly likes. He reminds me of Peters skillset tbh. Spags is going to play press man. Murphy is the best for that. IMO, Murphy is the only corner in this draft worthy of a round one pick. In a more dominant CB draft, the rest of them don't go in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I think she guy in round 1 then take isaiah Johnson in round 2. The 6'2" corner from houston. He ran a 4.40 at the combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SEMO said: Spags is going to play press man. Murphy is the best for that. IMO, Murphy is the only corner in this draft worthy of a round one pick. In a more dominant CB draft, the rest of them don't go in round 1. I want absolutely nothing to do with Byron Murphy. He is the one name that really scares me out of all the CB names thrown about in the first 2 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: I want absolutely nothing to do with Byron Murphy. He is the one name that really scares me out of all the CB names thrown about in the first 2 rounds. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I'm no draft guy but read the reviews on Murphy and the only thing that concerns me is the two things you cant coach...size and speed other than that I think he'd be able to be coached up in regards to his other faults. not really the review i'd want out of a first round pick altho it is the 29.. maybes light reach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I'm no draft guy but read the reviews on Murphy and the only thing that concerns me is the two things you cant coach...size and speed other than that I think he'd be able to be coached up in regards to his other faults. not really the review i'd want out of a first round pick altho it is the 29.. maybes light reach? Straight line speed can be deceptive. He ran a 4.55 at the combine. I don’t know about his pro day. But, his ability to anticipate, and mirror routes, makes up for it. Find some of his tape and watch it. He breaks on a route almost before the receiver does, sticks like glue. His play speed is excellent and he gives up very few receptions, rarely getting beat. I doubt we draft him, because I don’t think he gets beyond Seattle. But, if Veach is trading up for a corner, it should be Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Other than Murphy, Baker at 29 would be fine with me. I don’t want Greedy here at all. Don’t need another corner allergic to tackling. Had enough of that from Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 So now the Chiefs first picks will be at the end of round two. Considering their top need is CB, it's hard not to worry that none of the potential starters will be there by pick #61. They also have to get a second TE and probably a RB. CB....Ya-Sin, Mullen, Oruwariye,? TE...Sternberger? RB...Montgomery, Henderson,? Which, if any, can the Chiefs snag on the second day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Mullen might be there. The other two won’t. Lonnie Johnson is a real possibility. Good chance Sternberger is there. I also like Moreau or Oliver. LOVE Kahale Warring. I don’t see them using a pick on a running back early, if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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