dhitter 1,426 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 2:20 PM, DieHard said: Agreed. He has a defense that is a better fit for him and a new coach. If he can’t get playing time thus year, it’s time to let him go. I think he has s shot at breaking out as does Speaks. Hope so. Speaks needs to break out as does KPass and I would throw O'Daniel in there. Could also say that about Watts and Lucas. And Fuller and Hitchens need to have bounce back years and....am I missing anyone? Hard to imagine all that happening. Its probably safe to say 1 or 2 on that list will not pan out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 2:20 PM, DieHard said: Agreed. He has a defense that is a better fit for him and a new coach. If he can’t get playing time thus year, it’s time to let him go. I think he has s shot at breaking out as does Speaks. Hope so. I saw some good film breakdown of Speaks yesterday and he’s CLEARLY better with a hand in the dirt. The OLB thing was a farce and I expect a big jump from him. Tanoh. No clue. You just don’t hear much about him. Is this a trade candidate? Are they slow playing him for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 11:53 PM, Palangi said: I agree. Sutton did weird things with young guys and loved his vets Yeah. It doesn't help to draft well but never let them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: I saw some good film breakdown of Speaks yesterday and he’s CLEARLY better with a hand in the dirt. The OLB thing was a farce and I expect a big jump from him. Tanoh. No clue. You just don’t hear much about him. Is this a trade candidate? Are they slow playing him for some reason? They are secretly working on making him into a tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Mloe68 said: I saw some good film breakdown of Speaks yesterday and he’s CLEARLY better with a hand in the dirt. The OLB thing was a farce and I expect a big jump from him. Tanoh. No clue. You just don’t hear much about him. Is this a trade candidate? Are they slow playing him for some reason? I think Tanoh will play better with his hand in the dirt as well. Both him and speaks were so miscast with Sutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I doubt Kpass has any value whatsoever at this point. He's either a decent 4-3 prospect or a cut candidate and I'm pretty sure nobody would give up anything for him until they see something. He looked really good in his college tape as a 4-3 guy and showed some flashes (flasher ) here and there but I think he's basically a low risk high reward guy that we added to the camp roster assuming his cap hit isn't a problem at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 hours ago, sith13 said: and showed some flasher here and there The crowds would get a kick out of that. 😛 (sorry. that typo was too funny to resist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Guy might surprise some folks. He had nice range and pass rush during his chances. Could be our next Osi Umenyora 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,121 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, DefensiveMan said: Guy might surprise some folks. He had nice range and pass rush during his chances. Could be our next Osi Umenyora 😁 Would jump stumps if that happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 It could be that KPass's weakness is between the ears. Without some beefy neurons in there, the rest of it isn't of much use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Kansas City Chiefs Second round of the 2017 draft (No. 59 overall)Actual pick: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, VillanovaDo-over pick: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC Kpassagnon contributed little in two seasons and was often a healthy scratch late last season. Had the Chiefs drafted Smith-Schuster, who went three picks later to the Steelers, they wouldn't have needed to overpay for Sammy Watkins in free agency the next year. Perhaps Kpassagnon's career is revived by a switch from linebacker to his college position of defensive end this season, but he has looked like a lost pick so far. -- Adam Teicher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,121 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Handswarmer said: Kansas City Chiefs Second round of the 2017 draft (No. 59 overall)Actual pick: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, VillanovaDo-over pick: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC Kpassagnon contributed little in two seasons and was often a healthy scratch late last season. Had the Chiefs drafted Smith-Schuster, who went three picks later to the Steelers, they wouldn't have needed to overpay for Sammy Watkins in free agency the next year. Perhaps Kpassagnon's career is revived by a switch from linebacker to his college position of defensive end this season, but he has looked like a lost pick so far. -- Adam Teicher I think these "in hindsight drafts" would make most sick. I don't think it's ever wise to take such big projects like Kpass in the 2nd round. That money we had to spend on Watkins could have gone towards signing an impact defensive player and when we were one play from going to the SB........ifs and buts man, ifs and buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 15 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: It could be that KPass's weakness is between the ears. Without some beefy neurons in there, the rest of it isn't of much use. Sadly, you may be right. Can't fix stupid. But there's also the hope that he can learn enough to play with his hand on the dirt and be an effective DE when he doesn't have to worry about OLB responsibilities. If you can't fix stupid, find a spot where it doesn't matter so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 10:03 PM, Fmbl2187 said: They are secretly working on making him into a tight end. I don’t care what his ass looks like as long as he gets some sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, DieHard said: I don’t care what his ass looks like as long as he gets some sacks. ✔️ I don't know what his end looks like. I am more concerned whether he has a head on his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I don't think the problem is between the ears. He's a very smart dude. Finance double major, parents are scientists I believe. Problem is probably just he hasn't played that long and hasn't really developed his instincts. And it's not like he got a lot of development from Sutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, xen said: I don't think the problem is between the ears. He's a very smart dude. Finance double major, parents are scientists I believe. Problem is probably just he hasn't played that long and hasn't really developed his instincts. And it's not like he got a lot of development from Sutton. They had a pretty good OLB coach last year to learn from. I think the biggest issue with Tanoh is thst he plays pretty stiff (a little surprising) and some guys can play like that, but most can't. With how damn big he is in general, he needs to play with great balance and he really doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 6 hours ago, liquidfriend said: They had a pretty good OLB coach last year to learn from. I think the biggest issue with Tanoh is thst he plays pretty stiff (a little surprising) and some guys can play like that, but most can't. With how damn big he is in general, he needs to play with great balance and he really doesn't. He was miscast at OLB. Plenty of good players who were not bendy. They just play with their hand in the dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, xen said: He was miscast at OLB. Plenty of good players who were not bendy. They just play with their hand in the dirt. He'll get his shot this year. If he can't fit in at DE under Daly, it's time to cut bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, liquidfriend said: He'll get his shot this year. If he can't fit in at DE under Daly, it's time to cut bait. Yeah I would agree with that. Really needs to show something this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 8 hours ago, xen said: I don't think the problem is between the ears. He's a very smart dude. Finance double major, parents are scientists I believe. Problem is probably just he hasn't played that long and hasn't really developed his instincts. And it's not like he got a lot of development from Sutton. Interesting. I obviously didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 7 hours ago, liquidfriend said: ] think the biggest issue with Tanoh is thst he plays pretty stiff (a little surprising) and some guys can play like that, but most can't. With how damn big he is in general, he needs to play with great balance and he really doesn't. Maybe he needs to lay off the Viagra, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 hours ago, liquidfriend said: They had a pretty good OLB coach last year to learn from. I think the biggest issue with Tanoh is thst he plays pretty stiff (a little surprising) and some guys can play like that, but most can't. With how damn big he is in general, he needs to play with great balance and he really doesn't. He didn't look dull in the game he played a lt against defender and had a sack and other pressures. He was miscast by a dinosaur that had no idea to begin with. Im not saying he will be great. But I don't trust anything sutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Palangi said: He didn't look dull in the game he played a lt against defender and had a sack and other pressures. He was miscast by a dinosaur that had no idea to begin with. Im not saying he will be great. But I don't trust anything sutton What game was that? The Jaguars one? He was going against a 6th string tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 But hey I get it with your 6th string thought process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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