Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Calichief said: Tyreek isn’t going anywhere. He’d be gone. He’s playing for kc this year. After an NFL suspension I'll wager. But yeah I agree. I think the Chiefs clearly have more info than we do, and realized even prior to this incident that Crystal was the bigger problem and bringing out the worst in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 I just hope Hill/Players association don’t fight the suspension and just get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,426 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Balto said: I just hope Hill/Players association don’t fight the suspension and just get it over with. Unfortunately, I believe most likely if it comes to that they will. If Hill doesn't get charged and subsequently cut/suspended altogether he should thank his lucky stars that he isn't going to jail and completely out of football. His best bet would be to lay low and just serve his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefsFoolFan 149 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This is not a Hill thread..... Here's another article from today: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/5/13/18617233/arrowheadlines-cbs-sports-says-patrick-peterson-to-the-chiefs-would-make-sense?fbclid=IwAR1qsaUVVl8w07U1wpfwOGz1vIUQN00Mrb_bAV3NQFC-qxOnH4Oglb1vQSg I'm seeing a lot of smoke about this in the news the past few days. I'd like to believe that where there's smoke, there's fire. Peterson in our secondary would make this defense very formidable in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Apparently Antonio Bryant started the big pre draft rumor and now has tweeted out again today an image of Peterson in a Chiefs jersey or something like that. Haven't seen it though. Keep in mind he also said the Cardinals were going to take Bosa over Murray. So no clue what's going on with this guy. That said P2 is apparently going to skip mini camp and the growing unrest with a rookie coach might indeed push the issue. Kind of a Tony G deal where a good veteran doesn't want to rebuild again. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 23 hours ago, Calichief said: Tyreek isn’t going anywhere. He’d be gone. He’s playing for kc this year. If we made a trade for a real asset and they could move the Tyreek mess off their plate to make it happen. I'd bet the farm they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, Mloe68 said: If we made a trade for a real asset and they could move the Tyreek mess off their plate to make it happen. I'd bet the farm they would. Maybe. i don’t think you trade an ace or 1 of a kind. You won’t get back anything close. just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Any talk about pp is being buried until the Cards come down on the asking price. Pretty unrealistic, but they seem to be gladly engaging in talks if anyone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, Calichief said: Maybe. i don’t think you trade an ace or 1 of a kind. You won’t get back anything close. just my opinion. Your right in that his tangible value on the field is far higher than what anyone will likely come close to paying with this mess still pending. At best his risk level just went through the roof. Not suggesting at all this is even in discussion. But I think if the Cardinals would take Tyreek for P2. We would jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: Your right in that his tangible value on the field is far higher than what anyone will likely come close to paying with this mess still pending. At best his risk level just went through the roof. Not suggesting at all this is even in discussion. But I think if the Cardinals would take Tyreek for P2. We would jump on it. Totally understand your point. agree to disagree. I don’t think Andy would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 please not our 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,121 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chiefswinitall said: please not our 1st. I would but just because he’s got a great contract for two years and is a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chiefswinitall said: please not our 1st. Our 1st will be pretty much an early 2nd. Plus you get him 2 more years on a very reasonable contract. He would be worth it but if they can swing it for a 2nd...even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Should follow up with Terez Paylors comments from earlier today that the Chiefs have had no contact with the Cardinals concerning Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 https://raisingzona.com/2019/05/12/arizona-cardinals-patrick-peterson-trade-to-the-chiefs-makes-sense/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 Will Cards use David Johnson in that new air raid college Offense? Maybe they feel Hill would be the TOP guy for new Offense.... Cards get: Hill Chiefs get: Peterson and Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Balto said: Will Cards use David Johnson in that new air raid college Offense? Maybe they feel Hill would be the TOP guy for new Offense.... Cards get: Hill Chiefs get: Peterson and Johnson Facepalm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: Facepalm... lol certainly lives in a dream world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Should follow up with Terez Paylors comments from earlier today that the Chiefs have had no contact with the Cardinals concerning Peterson. Veach keeps his cards up his sleeves until the deal is close to being finalized. I wouldn't rule out any trades completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: Veach keeps his cards up his sleeves until the deal is close to being finalized. I wouldn't rule out any trades completely. I agree completely. I think Terez's point was simply don't get excited because nothing is remotely imminent here. You rarely see a rumor mill like we've had with Peterson go on this long with no real backbone to it other than "it makes sense." But we will see what happens. You are probably right in that the Cards have floated around an asking price which we simply aren't interested in at this point. There's other options too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: I agree completely. I think Terez's point was simply don't get excited because nothing is remotely imminent here. You rarely see a rumor mill like we've had with Peterson go on this long with no real backbone to it other than "it makes sense." But we will see what happens. You are probably right in that the Cards have floated around an asking price which we simply aren't interested in at this point. There's other options too. Not saying you in particular, but people tend to take that report and run with "we're fucked!!!!! Not trading for anybody" Lot of smoke that Peterson is dying to be traded to KC though. He wants out, bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If he skips out on OTAs, the there is some fire with the smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, SEMO said: If he skips out on OTAs, the there is some fire with the smoke. Well he did take off all mention of the Cardinals on all his social media accounts. Not saying that is the end all of it, but it does not look good for his relation with them imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, SEMO said: If he skips out on OTAs, the there is some fire with the smoke. Sounds like he might. Why rebuild around a 22 year QB and leave him in a spot where the face of the franchise on defense anyway is disgruntled. They must be hoping a market will develop to get them the draft picks next year they couldn't get this year. There's definitely value there with a top 5 rated PFF guy who's got two manageable contract years left. But again maybe that's part of the issue here as well with Peterson wanting an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I think I would trade Hill for Peterson. Hill is on the last year of his contract and will be suspended for a good portion of that. I don't know if we can afford to sign him so he would be franchised. I would add that Mahomes is a hell of a QB that can make average WRs look much better. Peterson on a reasonable 2 year contract is very valuable. Hill has very little trade value right now. Suspension and looming contract are big factors IMO. Not trying to be funny, but Pat threw 50 TDs last year and only 12 went to Hill. 12 players caught TDs from Pat. Hill is a stud WR unlike anything we have had ever, but long term? I just don't know if he ever signs a new contract here. At least this way he doesn't land in the AFC West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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