dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 We'll see what happens with the contract, but keep in mind the Chiefs have 3 years of control on Clark at just the salary cap price. Theoretically, they could just play him under the FT this year and trade him next year or in 2 years. Let's see how it pans out. FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Chiefs acquired DE Frank Clark from the Seahawks in exchange for the No. 29 overall pick and a 2020 second-round pick. The teams will also swap third-round picks this week. The Chiefs have a pair of 2020 second-rounders, and the Seahawks will get whichever is lower. The Chiefs needed pass-rushing help as they continue their retool for a 4-3 defense, but this is a steep price for an effective pass rusher who is nevertheless not a true game wrecker. Clark also has a checkered off-the-field history and dealt with injuries in 2018. The positive, of course, is that, whatever the cost, they are acquiring a player with at least nine sacks each of the past three seasons. Clark does not turn 26 until June. He will certainly make an impact for Andy Reid's Super Bowl-or-bust squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, dksww said: We'll see what happens with the contract, but keep in mind the Chiefs have 3 years of control on Clark at just the salary cap price. Theoretically, they could just play him under the FT this year and trade him next year or in 2 years. Let's see how it pans out. Sounds like an extension is part of the agreement. Clark might not sign the tag without that guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, FANATIC said: OH No Mr Luvless. Look at your consistent caustic foul mouthed comments. Not everyone belongs to your cult. You have anger issues to work on. I'm not angry at all. I'm ecstatic. And I'm not part of any cult. I just happen to love the Chiefs and believe in this front office. I do wish you were in that group, because clearly you arent. AppalachianChief and gochiefsgo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 The only thing I don't like is did we essentially waste high picks on guys like Speaks and Tanoh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kychief 239 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He's a stud player and fits this scheme far better than ford..still would have rather had p Peterson but it is what it is... oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: The only thing I don't like is did we essentially waste high picks on guys like Speaks and Tanoh? Speaks will be rotated in quite a bit. This gives us great depth on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: The only thing I don't like is did we essentially waste high picks on guys like Speaks and Tanoh? Speaks has only had 1 season under a lame duck coach in Sutton. Tanoh not sure either, these guys just didn't play under Sutton and even if they did it's still Sutton so we just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would let it play out before rushing to judgement. qnet and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 for 105 Mil 65 guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: The only thing I don't like is did we essentially waste high picks on guys like Speaks and Tanoh? I see Speaks more of the Strong-side DE not LEO like Clark will play. Kpass….Not sure but maybe he plays SAM? Or rotates with Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 they signed him, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 We basically gave Clark the contract Tyreek was supposed to get oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, dksww said: they signed him, wow So they traded Ford and a first round pick for another guy getting 63.5 guaranteed. This guy must be way better than Ford? I hope this works out and would love being wrong. Guy is a CHief so Go Chiefs. Maybe it is Superbowl or Bust tIme for Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I am fine with this. Get a proven player instead of hoping no draft bust. Use cap space we still have this year and next. Need to resign our own now and oh, our defense will be much improved. All the while we are stacking up for a SB run for years to come and still have 2 2nd rounders this year, higher 3rd and our picks plus a lot of cap next year. There are guys we can cut next year too like Sorensen etc to get even more cap if need be and the 10 million from Berry's release post June 1st FANATIC and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Sooooo #29+about $4M more a year for Clark over keeping Ford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, FANATIC said: So they traded Ford and a first round pick for another guy getting 63.5 guaranteed. This guy must be way better than Ford? I hope this works out and would love being wrong. Guy is a CHief so Go Chiefs. Maybe it is Superbowl or Bust tIme for Reid. Traded Ford and a 1st for this guy plus a 2nd. This guy is also more reliable and younger than Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Traded Ford and a 1st for this guy plus a 2nd. This guy is also more reliable and younger than Ford. and fits a 4-3 kychief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The $ isn't a big deal, look at the Chiefs' cap space for next year and 2021. In 2021 they only have like 20 guys under contract lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Balto said: I see Speaks more of the Strong-side DE not LEO like Clark will play. Kpass….Not sure but maybe he plays SAM? Or rotates with Clark? Albert Breer @AlbertBreer In reporting on the Frank Clark trade to KC over the weekend, I asked a lot of folks on whether he was THAT big an upgrade over Dee Ford. The universal answer: Yes. Without question. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, kkuenn said: Traded Ford and a 1st for this guy plus a 2nd. This guy is also more reliable and younger than Ford. Well the 2nd came in the Ford deal so I dont count that. Yes time to move on and hope for his career to be a game changer in KC. Onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I’ll support him. He is here for the foreseeable future. Looking at the trade value chart, we gave up about 1100 pts in capital, if the 2020 2nd is mid round. That’s plausible with them getting Garrappalo(sp) back. Hopefully, our pick isn’t higher😔. That equals around pick 14 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'm actually fine with this and expected it would cost about what Veach paid for him. I think what we all need to take from this is consistency! Clark is a guy who will get us about 10 sacks a year with a few 13-15 sack years mixed in. That will be sooooo refreshing coming from what we have experienced with Houston's monster year and then BLAH...and Ford being a bust until its a contract year and going off! I truly think Clark was brought in because it gives our D a much needed baseline of what others should expect the Warparty and FANATIC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kychief 239 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Wow..5yrs 105 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'm ok with this line: Frank Clark / Derrick Nnadi / Chris Jones / Alex Okafor oldtimer and kychief 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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