hankstromboli 25 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: Exactly. They want the Chiefs to add playmakers, but only on their terms. Because we didn't get Clark for a second rounder this year and nothing more, people lose sight of the fact that we added a beast. We were never getting him for a 2nd rounder alone. Veach has been adding picks and clearing payroll for a move like this. I cant imagine looking at this move and my first reaction being " I hate this". You like good football players right? Maybe youd rather have the college players that they would have taken with those picks. I'd rather have a proven stud just entering his prime. The negativity may be based on Clark's personal background. I think it's a great move for KC. Compensation is fine - for Clark and draft picks. Think he's lightyears ahead of dee ford. Some people may be concerned by his background and troubled past. We've had issues with Hunt and Hill so this could be another risk. it's alot to pay someone that could be perfect and have no issues or one step away from suspension. I don't think you can fault the mixed opinion on signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Brandon Kiley @BKSportsTalk FollowFollow @BKSportsTalk More Alright, listen, I’m not saying Frank Clark is Khalil Mack. He’s not. But I found these numbers over the last 3 seasons to be interesting. Frank Clark - 47 games, 32 sacks, 31 TFL, 66 QB Hits Khalil Mack - 46 games, 34 sacks, 39 TFL, 66 QB Hits Mloe68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Wolfscall, Troyofoc and Mloe68 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744 Here you go. Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the #Chiefs move... "Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahommes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, FANATIC said: Here you go. Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the #Chiefs move... "Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Pat So random, on my desktop it copies just the link but on my phone/tablet it will take the link and post the actual message (which is what I did after the fact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I heard Todd McShay say the film on him shows "a dynamic pass rusher who's also very good vs the run. Kansas City's defense clearly just got alot better." I like to hear things like this. I've always rode the fence on him with his off field issues at Michigan which will draw alot of scrutiny on the talk radio curcuits initially. But he's had no issues since entering the NFL and that had to sell Veach and especially Clark Hunt. But as a football player we just got a guy who's clearly better and younger than anyone we just lost and I'm quite certain Spags would say a much better fit. And he plays with attitude which is something our defense has lacked. These contracts are gambles and Veach is sticking his neck out and put himself on the firing line. I like that. Sink or swim with guys you really want. That said, we've still REALLY got to find another corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: no guts no glory / who dares wins I like it personally Yeah. Can't be aggressive with a passive attitude in the NFL. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Watch Seattle convert into a Hall of famer. We better win the Fucking superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: according ot Petro that compensation would of been the same to move up to 21st pick I instantly though what would the trade chart say. Move up 8 spots wasn't gonna get us the edge we needed. Hey be bold and go get the players you really want. Don't be afraid to fail. Veach will catch hell if this doesn't work out, but good for him for putting his neck on the line. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 lol oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chiefswinitall said: Watch Seattle convert into a Hall of famer. We better win the Fucking superbowl. highly unlikely. Go look at the past 20-25 past #29 overall draft picks. I only recognized like 4 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Brett: "Hey Madden 2020, should I trade for Frank Clark?" Madden: "Not only should you do it, toss in a 2nd. Do it, pussy!" Brett: "Don't have to tell me twice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, dksww said: ? how so? This only cost us our first. We got a 2nd for Dee Ford that will be higher than ours. We traded our pick, not the 49ers' pick. We moved up 8 spots in the 3rd round of this year's draft. To clarify we traded whichever 2nd round pick is worse next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said: It's always the same Chicken Little motherfuckers that pollute every thread isnt it? Jesus Christ we added a BEAST to our defense. How could adding Frank Clark to your defense be considered a dumb move? Overpay? Maybe? Dumb? Of course not. Our d line rotation could be NASTY!!! Bingo. Look there's definitive risk but Brett Veach has proven over the past two offseasons he's not going to waste money on players or characters that don't fit our overall plan. But he will with players he believes will and live with being on the firing line. I love it. And again if his moves don't work and we fall flat on our face we know where to turn. No more riding the fence post. Its Super Bowl or bust certainly over the next 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: To clarify we traded whichever 2nd round pick is worse next year. ya i meant to say that but it didn't come out that way lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-close-to-deal-for-seahawks-frank-clark-174749870.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 This has a decent chance of developing into one of the best Chiefs defensive line groups in decades. Lots of depth and still one one of the younger groups in the league too. Desperately need another corner still. And then next year go get a dynamic versatile LB. Safety still a concern as well but we do have answers and added an elite guy. Over 50 percent of this defense will likely be different from the AFC Title game to Opening Day in September. As one of the Chiefs beat writers tweeted out "Veach means business with trying to fix this defense." West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2019 Okafor, Honey Bear, Clark vs 2019 Hali, Ford & Berry... Chiefs D just got younger and much better. This is not Wilkie's Chiefs....this management group is doing a solid job. w Chiefsfan1963 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, West said: 2019 Okafor, Honey Bear, Clark vs 2019 Hali, Ford & Berry... Chiefs D just got younger and much better. This is not Wilkie's Chiefs....this management group is doing a solid job. w Yup. It also seems that these contracts are lining up with when Mahomes deal needs done. In my opinion, Veach is killing it as gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, West said: 2019 Okafor, Honey Bear, Clark vs 2019 Hali, Ford & Berry... Chiefs D just got younger and much better. This is not Wilkie's Chiefs....this management group is doing a solid job. w I'm with you other than the Hali part. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, West said: 2019 Okafor, Honey Bear, Clark vs 2019 Hali, Ford & Berry... Chiefs D just got younger and much better. This is not Wilkie's Chiefs....this management group is doing a solid job. w Don't forget Hitchens gets to play back in his natural position as a 4-3 LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, soonerborn77 said: Don't forget Hitchens gets to play back in his natural position as a 4-3 LB And Damien Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 my bad...Houston has looked as slow as Tamba lately. Face it, the D was a huge liability. w reesebobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, West said: 2019 Okafor, Honey Bear, Clark vs 2019 Hali, Ford & Berry... Chiefs D just got younger and much better. This is not Wilkie's Chiefs....this management group is doing a solid job. w Honey bear. 😄😄😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Some of them there city slickers apparently don't know the difference between a bear and a badger. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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