Chiefswinitall 60 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/05/06/jamie-collins-predicted-land-kansas-city-chiefs-nfl-free-agency/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Would be nice to see him come in and another WR or TE. I think then we have depth to develop and competition for starting jobs in a lot of the areas too. This year has been mind blowing with all the off season crap from Hill to the trades made to draft and free agency. The turnover for the defense has been remarkable and if we get a middle of the road defense and the offense stays potent, we will be very, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I predict we will win the next 7 superbowls. Does that make it any more realistic than before I said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Interesting that any signings after tomorrow don’t count vs comp pick formula. Article also suggests we are in line for a 4th round comp pick. I agree with KK we’ve still got to be in the market for a cheap WR and/or TE fit in FA I’m still holding out hope we can make a trade for a corner. Obviously Collins would bring much needed versatility to our LB group with so little. But has anyone reported any real contract with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 How Collins would fit with us, see tweet with videos. https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1103397197935243268 https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1103397197935243268 4th round comp pick would be from Nelson signing with Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Read somewhere his play has really dropped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, kkuenn said: How Collins would fit with us, see tweet with videos. https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1103397197935243268 https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1103397197935243268 4th round comp pick would be from Nelson signing with Steelers. You would think mitch Morse would bring something back. Signing breeland might negate Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: Read somewhere his play has really dropped off. He did pretty well last year with Cleveland. He was just a cap savings cut is all. I know Belichek got on his ass about taking plays off or giving lackluster effort at times. Still he had 13 stops behind LOS last year and would give us tremendous flexibility to line him up all over and blitz etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Palangi said: You would think mitch Morse would bring something back. Signing breeland might negate Nelson Hard to say but you could say signing HB negates Morse too? Just saying what OTC said on its site, 4th for Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Collins was released by the Browns, so he was never a factor in the comp pick formula. A bad article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, liquidfriend said: Collins was released by the Browns, so he was never a factor in the comp pick formula. A bad article. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 If this helps keep ragland off the field and limits hitchens playing time im all for it FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: If this helps keep ragland off the field and limits hitchens playing time im all for it You are gonna like Hitchens in an aggressive 43. What you saw last year was the Sutton effect. Lamardirts, AppalachianChief, oldtimer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: You are gonna like Hitchens in an aggressive 43. What you saw last year was the Sutton effect. I hope you are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 yes, he was much better when he was with dallas as opposed to werthers putting him in the wrong position he should flourish this season oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I would take Collins for sure. He had 104 tackles last year. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I smell a rat. Collins is under 30, has no medical issues and was relatively productive last year. He was cut by Cleveland in early March as a cost saving measure. Two months later and he is still unsigned. What does that tell you? He is looking for big bucks. He is going to have to come down a lot from what I hear is an asking price. He was due to make over $10 million with Cleveland had they kept him. Rumor has it he is looking to stay close to that price. His only hope is to find a GM notorious for overpaying guys if he likes them and really wants them. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 6 hours ago, dhitter said: I smell a rat. Collins is under 30, has no medical issues and was relatively productive last year. He was cut by Cleveland in early March as a cost saving measure. Two months later and he is still unsigned. What does that tell you? He is looking for big bucks. He is going to have to come down a lot from what I hear is an asking price. He was due to make over $10 million with Cleveland had they kept him. Rumor has it he is looking to stay close to that price. His only hope is to find a GM notorious for overpaying guys if he likes them and really wants them. Sound familiar? Not sure that makes him a rat. We see good players linger in free agency in all sports. Lots of teams waiting to see what their rosters look like after the draft etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefsFoolFan 149 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 9:31 PM, Iluvhouse24 said: You are gonna like Hitchens in an aggressive 43. What you saw last year was the Sutton effect. The Sutton Effect is real! LOL. I hope you are correct. If players on this defense are better (Fuller, Hitchens, Jones, Ward, etc) we are going to be talking about "the Sutton Effect" a lot this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiefsFoolFan said: The Sutton Effect is real! LOL. I hope you are correct. If players on this defense are better (Fuller, Hitchens, Jones, Ward, etc) we are going to be talking about "the Sutton Effect" a lot this year. If anything, the coverage and blitz packages won't be as predictable as Sutton's was. Also, Sutton never adjusted so there's that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I think Ragland and Hitch fit much better in a 4-3. It wouldn’t surprise me if both played a lot better. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 hours ago, DieHard said: I think Ragland and Hitch fit much better in a 4-3. It wouldn’t surprise me if both played a lot better. It would be a great bonus if Ragland could play effectively. The way he ended the 2017 season made me think the Chiefs had gotten a great young player for nothing. Last season was such a disappointment. Maybe it was Sutton, Maybe it was a bum let that never was right. Whatever, the Chiefs can make do without him, but the LB corp would look so much better if he played up to his potential. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, jetlord said: It would be a great bonus if Ragland could play effectively. The way he ended the 2017 season made me think the Chiefs had gotten a great young player for nothing. Last season was such a disappointment. Maybe it was Sutton, Maybe it was a bum let that never was right. Whatever, the Chiefs can make do without him, but the LB corp would look so much better if he played up to his potential. Ragland is a backup. Hitchens is borderline at this point. We'll see what the Hitman brings to the table this year, Veachy Peachy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, jetlord said: It would be a great bonus if Ragland could play effectively. The way he ended the 2017 season made me think the Chiefs had gotten a great young player for nothing. Last season was such a disappointment. Maybe it was Sutton, Maybe it was a bum let that never was right. Whatever, the Chiefs can make do without him, but the LB corp would look so much better if he played up to his potential. I think it was both Sutton and the leg personally. Also remember towards the end of the 2017 season when we were 6-6 and had just suspended Marcus Peters, Sutton said he simplified the scheme. It worked big time too as they were stellar even without Peters that one week until Chris Jones went down in the playoff game. So maybe he and Hitchens just need to be turned loose with an aggressive hit the gaps hard mentality. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I don’t know, but I have seen both play well. Maybe they were all just confused in that soft scene and couldn’t attack. I think if you tell Rags to blow up the running back and not try and be a coverage guy he could return to form. I have less doubts about Hitch. I think he will do very well in a more traditional defense. Those guys just don’t seem built for a soft 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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