Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 So much for Johnson and Williams being great UDFA pickups. Gotta be careful believing the OTA hype. Matt Derrick @mattderrick FollowingFollowing @mattderrick More Chiefs have waived LB Gary Johnson, T Justin Senor and RB James Williams, per the NFL transaction report. Club also signed TE Neal Sterling, who was released by the Jets this week. Sterling spent time on the Chiefs practice squad in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 might be my age but I dont recall any one touting the greatness of either..his best chance was sT and he really didn't fit in that role just by size alone Johnson maybe a bit more surprising being he is ST material..nothing says they wont be Back on down the line if an injury happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 10 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Why the need to release 3 players to just sign one player 🤔 more moves maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 They are really searching hard for that 2nd TE though. I bet we end up picking up a veteran either via trade or after being cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Really surprised at Johnson. LB was a big question mark so I expected them to keep as many guys as possible until the final cuts but I'm guessing they are sort of happy with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, sith13 said: Really surprised at Johnson. LB was a big question mark so I expected them to keep as many guys as possible until the final cuts but I'm guessing they are sort of happy with what we have. at only 220 kinda light in the pants for a LB..seems to me his 4;43 speed was good..a tweener that just couldn't find a home maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, oldtimer said: at only 220 kinda light in the pants for a LB..seems to me his 4;43 speed was good..a tweener that just couldn't find a home maybe? Could be, relatively short and light but the reports were nothing but good news about him up to now especially with that speed playing outside. Surprised to see him leave so early but I guess TE is a much bigger concern now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, oldtimer said: might be my age but I dont recall any one touting the greatness of either..his best chance was sT and he really didn't fit in that role just by size alone Johnson maybe a bit more surprising being he is ST material..nothing says they wont be Back on down the line if an injury happens Greatness was definitely an exaggeration. The Johnson deal I got into a Twitter debate with someone over who claimed the guy was going to be a starter. Williams was named by numerous people on the board as a guy who would make the roster over Hyde. In any case it is a bit odd we released three but only signed one. Why release those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: Greatness was definitely an exaggeration. The Johnson deal I got into a Twitter debate with someone over who claimed the guy was going to be a starter. Williams was named by numerous people on the board as a guy who would make the roster over Hyde. In any case it is a bit odd we released three but only signed one. Why release those two? I'd wager we'll know more tomorrow..but then I'm not a bettn man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Would have been hard for Gary to beat out DOD and Lee, but I always like seeing Udfas pan out. Was dead wrong about James Williams, thought he would have been perfect for our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Lamardirts said: Would have been hard for Gary to beat out DOD and Lee, but I always like seeing Udfas pan out. Was dead wrong about James Williams, thought he would have been perfect for our team. Just tells me they like Carlos Hyde more than was speculated. No room for him if that's the case. Also may indicate they plan to keep the ivy league qb as an h-back which would put him in the RB room. I thought Williams had a shot too. Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Signed 2. Veach churning bottom of roster. Brett Veach decided to add two players that the team is familiar with. They inked Northwest Missouri State RB Josh Caldwell and Kansas State OG Abdul Beecham. Both players participated in the Chiefs’ local pro day, rookie minicamp and most recently mandatory minicamp on a tryout basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, xen said: Just tells me they like Carlos Hyde more than was speculated. No room for him if that's the case. Also may indicate they plan to keep the ivy league qb as an h-back which would put him in the RB room. I thought Williams had a shot too. Guess not. Good point on Verret? Think that’s his name. I did see comments from Hyde about how much he loved this offense because it gives RBs so much responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 18 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Why release those two? If you know they are not gonna make the Chiefs, then releasing them early gives them the best possible chance to get picked up elsewhere. Not saying that's for sure the case, but it sometimes is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, xen said: Signed 2. Veach churning bottom of roster. Brett Veach decided to add two players that the team is familiar with. They inked Northwest Missouri State RB Josh Caldwell and Kansas State OG Abdul Beecham. Both players participated in the Chiefs’ local pro day, rookie minicamp and most recently mandatory minicamp on a tryout basis. Dropping one RB to pick up another can only mean they didn't like the first. Maybe he had an attitude, was lazy, had flaws, etc., but Williams sure didn't measure up in the eyes of the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jetlord said: Dropping one RB to pick up another can only mean they didn't like the first. Maybe he had an attitude, was lazy, had flaws, etc., but Williams sure didn't measure up in the eyes of the coaches. If anything it was Toub and what he liked for ST players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: If you know they are not gonna make the Chiefs, then releasing them early gives them the best possible chance to get picked up elsewhere. Not saying that's for sure the case, but it sometimes is. Andy does say that alot. RIght thing to do. Zen just pointed out we ended up signing two local products who were basically trying out during this weeks mini camps. All kind of adds up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, kkuenn said: If anything it was Toub and what he liked for ST players. I think Toub gets at least 2-3 roster spots of his choice. D Anthony Thomas was the guy he probably was "saving' the past few years. He loved that kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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