jetlord 10,209 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: Hardman was insurance because of the Hill case and his future risks. It was for speed at receiver. You can count on the Chiefs knowing what they have in Robinson. Like I said, Robinson could end up as a #1 for some other teams. We aren't going to move him unless it is for one of the top corners in the league. And that is not going to happen. Which team could Robinson join and be the #1 receiver? Can't think of any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, jetlord said: Which team could Robinson join and be the #1 receiver? Can't think of any. Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 5 hours ago, FANATIC said: A #1? We agree to disagree. Not going to happen. Not for the Chiefs, but a receiver-needy team might find him eventually good enough for that. The guy keeps getting better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Warparty 69 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 put me in the camp that doubts Robinson. I think his hands are questionable. Seems to be a street baller, which may be the selling point to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Even if Robinson is slightly better than Pringle, Dieter, Davis, or Kemp, the question is, "Is he enough better to be worth more than a third round pick?" I'd say "no".When is the #4 WR worth more than a third? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 3:14 PM, Calichief said: Ravens For receiver? Or backup quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 From Arrowhead Pride... Over the past two days, it is beginning to become obvious why the Chiefs needed to trade up to select wide receiver Mecole Hardman in the second round of the NFL Draft. Hardman shows blazing speed, a knack for getting behind the Chiefs defenders and an early rapport withPatrick Mahomes. Hardman shouldpress Demarcus Robinson for the day-one WR3 position, and if not Week 1, I’dexpect him to have it by midseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: From Arrowhead Pride... Over the past two days, it is beginning to become obvious why the Chiefs needed to trade up to select wide receiver Mecole Hardman in the second round of the NFL Draft. Hardman shows blazing speed, a knack for getting behind the Chiefs defenders and an early rapport withPatrick Mahomes. Hardman shouldpress Demarcus Robinson for the day-one WR3 position, and if not Week 1, I’dexpect him to have it by midseason. KC receiving core is deep and talented. Wish they could trade one for a really good corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, FANATIC said: KC receiving core is deep and talented. Wish they could trade one for a really good corner. Yeah, but the #4 corner is more valuable that the #4 receiver. Don't think Robinson will bring a top backup at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetlord said: Yeah, but the #4 corner is more valuable that the #4 receiver. Don't think Robinson will bring a top backup at CB. Agree. Not a top CB but maybe a better player than is currently on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 The other team should see Robinson as a solid #2 for us to get a decent #3 CB. Personally I'm ready to give him up for a decent young backup that could push some people for a starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Now that Vikings gave up a 5th for a kicker I guess a 3rd for Robinson may not be that far fetched after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, sith13 said: Now that Vikings gave up a 5th for a kicker I guess a 3rd for Robinson may not be that far fetched after all. A couple of kicks not missed at the end of close games might be worth more than a #3 or #4 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: A couple of kicks not missed at the end of close games might be worth more than a #3 or #4 WR. On the flip side, having a good WR may get you better field position for the kicker or even getting TDs instead of settling for FGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, kkuenn said: On the flip side, having a good WR may get you better field position for the kicker or even getting TDs instead of settling for FGs. True, but only if the good WR is obviously better than whoever would replace him. I realize there on many on this board who think Robinson is necessary to the Chiefs offense. I'm not one of them. Use Hill, Watkins, Hardman, Pringle, Kemp, along with Kelce and a stable of receiving RBs and Robinson is marginal. If he has trade value, trade him. He'll catch some passes and may be on the receiving end of some Mahomes magic, but maybe not more than the next, cheaper man up will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, jetlord said: A couple of kicks not missed at the end of close games might be worth more than a #3 or #4 WR. The kicker sure can hurt more but this is basically the time of the year when the value of draft picks are at its lowest as there are not many options to fix whatever is broken. If Giants think Robinson is more than a #3 WR we could get a nice return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 How much is Robinson going to cost us. I would love to get picks for guys but the more I think of it he’s more valuable to us. We could ext/resign him way cheaper and he’s been in our system for 3 years. It’s not easy to learn this system and it’s only going to get more complex the better Mahomes gets. And finally Watkins is gone next year either way imo and that means we could roll our Hill, Robinson and Hardman which is a very dangerous trio. Unless he nets us a very good pick or a above avg db, I say keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Lamardirts said: How much is Robinson going to cost us. I would love to get picks for guys but the more I think of it he’s more valuable to us. We could ext/resign him way cheaper and he’s been in our system for 3 years. It’s not easy to learn this system and it’s only going to get more complex the better Mahomes gets. And finally Watkins is gone next year either way imo and that means we could roll our Hill, Robinson and Hardman which is a very dangerous trio. Unless he nets us a very good pick or a above avg db, I say keep him. Yep. Especially your point about Watkins next year. I think we would be making a mistake to let Robinson go. To put three years into his development in the system and let him go would be a mistake, unless they make us an offer we can't refuse, like a truly good cornerback. Robinson is a good blocker and (I think) good on special teams. Toub has a say in all these decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: Yep. Especially your point about Watkins next year. I think we would be making a mistake to let Robinson go. To put three years into his development in the system and let him go would be a mistake, unless they make us an offer we can't refuse, like a truly good cornerback. Robinson is a good blocker and (I think) good on special teams. Toub has a say in all these decisions. Even if we cant resign him and some one over pays we may still get a good comp pick in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Even if we cant resign him and some one over pays we may still get a good comp pick in return. I dont know. He could not beat out Conley. They brought in old vets down the stretch last season when Watkins was out. Great players seldom linger for years before breaking out. Yes there are exceptions. Maybe Robinson is that guy. Will another team give up a #3 pick for a maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I would rather try to get something for him to improve the team, instead of letting him walk like Albert Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 #Bears have waived WR Emanuel Hall. I bet Giants go after him and Robinson now stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: #Bears have waived WR Emanuel Hall. I bet Giants go after him and Robinson now stays. I wouldn't take that bet, though I hope Robinson stays. He has a broad skill set and would be a strong WR2 and ST contributor for many teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Fmbl2187 said: I wouldn't take that bet, though I hope Robinson stays. He has a broad skill set and would be a strong WR2 and ST contributor for many teams. He’s apparently quietly having a very good camp too based on several reports I’ve read. We are just loaded at WR. Was just a few years ago we couldn’t seem to find or develop anyone. QB played some role. But not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There was a report on the radio today, not sure how accurate or informed, that Reid is surprised at how quickly Hardman is picking up the offense and the number of things he has learned at this point. Does that mean he's passed Robinson as the #3? Could be. At least he runs the routes rather than doing the Robinson free lance. With Pringle, Kemp, and Davis there is an excess of WRs who could make the roster. Better to get something for Robinson than to give away talent with more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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