DieHard 2,061 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, dksww said: I'd like to see the boost he can provide but I doubt we ever see a time where he's taking 80% of the snaps. Williams and Thompson bring more speed and athleticism so I still believe McCoy will be used for short yardage and end of game situations. I would use him as a third down back and not put the short yardage wear and tear on him. We need him in the playoffs. Not sure how they will use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: As I said above, guys fall off a cliff within 2 seasons all the time, especially RBs on the wrong side of 30. There are exceptions, like Allen. So the likely thing is that McCoy will never be who he was, but there is a chance he can still have a productive late stage of his career. You make a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Fmbl2187 said: It may be that Reid will put him in on 3rd and around 5-10 yards to go, when teams will be coming in screaming toward Mahomes. This protects Mahomes a lot, because they will be too afraid to do that if McCoy is in there. This would seem to be a major Mahomes protector gambit as much as anything. Also, think about the clock-killing benefit when we are hanging onto a one score lead late in the game. Scoring fast is one thing, but getting first downs has its place. Think about its effect when playing against Von MIller or Chubb. great point. the other factor i think is what it does to the opposing defenses and how they have to account. hunt did this but i don’t think williams do even though damian put up,great numbers. mccoy just like hunt scares a defense. perhaps the other thing is maybe running the ball more and allowing our d to rest.. i think the chiefs only had like 3 or 4 scoring drives over 800 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 This barely registered for me. Dude is 31, and I think people are expecting a lot out of him. He's more likely the Chad Henne of the rb position that can pull some spot duty and be salty in pass pro. I don't hate the signing, I just don't think it's going to amount to much on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Took me the better part of today to warm up to the acquisition but im drunk on kool aid and now think he will have a bounce back year on our team. He won’t be the lead back but I think he will turn some heads and be valuable down the stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 There's a good article in The Athletic that just came out on McCoy. It explained that while McCoy may have lost a step, the running stats were mainly due to a horrible line. They broke down how many time he had no chance to get past the line, something like 60%. Some of the clips showed he still has good quickness if not his peak speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 McCoy is not 25 yr old McCoy it's true. He may have lost a step speed wise, but he still can juke and change direction on a dime. He is a savvy vet who I believe will yield quite a few choice moments for the Chiefs this year. This offense is ridiculous!! FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Buy low, sell high, could Damien Williams be on the trading block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, NChiefsCorner said: Buy low, sell high, could Damien Williams be on the trading block? In a market where Hyde has value, who knows 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, dhitter said: McCoy is not 25 yr old McCoy it's true. He may have lost a step speed wise, but he still can juke and change direction on a dime. He is a savvy vet who I believe will yield quite a few choice moments for the Chiefs this year. This offense is ridiculous!! Whatever he can still do, the front office thinks it is worth 4 million dollars, even with the running backs we already had. That means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 hours ago, jetlord said: There's a good article in The Athletic that just came out on McCoy. It explained that while McCoy may have lost a step, the running stats were mainly due to a horrible line. They broke down how many time he had no chance to get past the line, something like 60%. Some of the clips showed he still has good quickness if not his peak speed. Yeah. Jamaal Charles was still very effective until his second injury and rehab. Being able to juke and move and change directions and make people miss is a skill that will still get him a lot of yards. And you don't need a lot of speed to be a great pass blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: Yeah. Jamaal Charles was still very effective until his second injury and rehab. Being able to juke and move and change directions and make people miss is a skill that will still get him a lot of yards. And you don't need a lot of speed to be a great pass blocker. Especially in this offense. Reid creates space for RBs and loves the screen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: Whatever he can still do, the front office thinks it is worth 4 million dollars, even with the running backs we already had. That means something. Yep. They didn't pay him 4 mil to be spot relief for Williams. They plan to use him as an integral part of the backfield. Anxious to see how this looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, dhitter said: Yep. They didn't pay him 4 mil to be spot relief for Williams. They plan to use him as an integral part of the backfield. Anxious to see how this looks. Could McCoy get 8-10 carries and a couple of targets? Maybe account for 50 yards/game with Williams as the primary RB and Thompson more an open field specialist and special teams player. Darrell might just be a short yardage specialist. This could really fit the definition of running back by committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I expect all of them to get ample opportunities. You don’t need to pick just one to be the starter. It looks liked Reid just said they are both starters. Williams and McCoy are costarters apparently. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, jetlord said: Could McCoy get 8-10 carries and a couple of targets? Maybe account for 50 yards/game with Williams as the primary RB and Thompson more an open field specialist and special teams player. Darrell might just be a short yardage specialist. This could really fit the definition of running back by committee. They could use any # of carries formula to start out and then adjust according to performance and fatigue. Who knows? McCoy could function so highly and with so much stamina, that he could end up with the bulk of carries, or it could go the other way. I don't think they will ever use McCoy for short yardage. Too much wear and tear. As you say, we have both Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson for that. But Reid will keep defenses confused by using a RB that seems to indicate one thing and then Mahomes might pass. It could be 3rd and 1/2 yard to go, Reid would put in Darrel William, and then Mahomes might throw a 70 yard bomb to Hill or Hardman. Reid will establish a pattern and then use that to fool the defense when the time is right. It really is an embarrassment of riches. gochiefsgo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Loved McCoy's presser today. He made the points that he wanted to go where there's a chance to win a championship, play for Andy Reid, and not pay California taxes. Smart guy. oldtimer and Troyofoc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, jetlord said: Loved McCoy's presser today. He made the points that he wanted to go where there's a chance to win a championship, play for Andy Reid, and not pay California taxes. Smart guy. Doesn't like taxes, interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Will D-Train give up #25 for McCoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, DefensiveMan said: Will D-Train give up #25 for McCoy? I think it’s already a done deal? Petro made a comment to that effect on a show yesterday. DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, DefensiveMan said: Will D-Train give up #25 for McCoy? Yep. Like they said on The Athletic podcast yesterday, Thompson got an extra payday early. gochiefsgo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 E: false alarm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 We will probably never know, the exact amount, but if it’s exactly 25 thousand dollars , that would be funny. 1 hour ago, jetlord said: Yep. Like they said on The Athletic podcast yesterday, Thompson got an extra payday early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Yep. They showed McCoy's jersey hanging in his locker. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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