Calichief 3,026 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 The peace sign is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I don't have a problem with the peace sign. The NFL doesn't either unless he's taunting someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, xen said: I don't have a problem with the peace sign. The NFL doesn't either unless he's taunting someone. Me neither. I think there should be more peace signs and less domestic violence in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 This is a incredible deal only because it being a extension NOT a new contract. Makes Veach the leading candidate for GM of the year IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I like the deal. It’s fair for both sides. Some people don’t like the guy but all said and done he didn’t do anything wrong. It would likely have been a mistake to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, jetlord said: What season altering trade is out there? Chiefs calculated that they are saving money by doing a deal now and they probably know more about their situation than Rapoport. It may backfire, there's no guarantees, but it's not a stupid move today. I’d almost agree with the guy because I still think a stud CB could happen. What makes it laughable is he says the Chiefs would only have $15M to use......Not even Patrick Peterson would cost us $15M this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,664 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Balto said: I’d almost agree with the guy because I still think a stud CB could happen. What makes it laughable is he says the Chiefs would only have $15M to use......Not even Patrick Peterson would cost us $15M this year. I don't understand the business side well enough. I thought you had to be under the cap at a certain date. How do in season trades count toward the cap situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: I don't understand the business side well enough. I thought you had to be under the cap at a certain date. How do in season trades count toward the cap situation? Teams have to be under the cap by the start of FA than again by Week 1. In season trades on how it affects the cap depends on how the contract is structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 It’s plausible that Spagnuolo views Jones as a great luxury while on his rookie contract, but not worth the cap expense he will command on the open market next summer. Whether the Chiefs choose to extend (or franchise tag) Jones remains to be seen, but the decision to keep five d-tackles combined with the landscape of the Chiefs’ cap in 2020 seems to indicate that 2019 may be Jones’ final season in a Chiefs uniform. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this roster decision is one that is not being talked about very much: Does the Chiefs’ decision to keep so many at the position indicate that Chris Jones will be the odd man out when his contract expires after this season? A quick glance at the Chiefs’ major cap hits in 2020: Frank Clark $22.7 million Sammy Watkins $21 million Tyreek Hill TBA but expected to be between $15 and $20 million Tyrann Mathieu $16.3 million Eric Fisher $12 million Anthony Hitchens $11.3 million Mitchell Schwartz 10.8 million Travis Kelce $10.4 million Laurent Duvernay-Tardif $9 million Eric Berry $8 million in dead money That’s over $135 million dollars tied up in just nine players on the roster. And that’s not counting *ahem* another contract discussion on offense that is expected to end up being the biggest of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, FANATIC said: Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this roster decision is one that is not being talked about very much: Does the Chiefs’ decision to keep so many at the position indicate that Chris Jones will be the odd man out when his contract expires after this season? A quick glance at the Chiefs’ major cap hits in 2020: Frank Clark $22.7 million Sammy Watkins $21 million Tyreek Hill TBA but expected to be between $15 and $20 million Tyrann Mathieu $16.3 million Eric Fisher $12 million Anthony Hitchens $11.3 million Mitchell Schwartz 10.8 million Travis Kelce $10.4 million Laurent Duvernay-Tardif $9 million Eric Berry $8 million in dead money That’s over $135 million dollars tied up in just nine players on the roster. And that’s not counting *ahem* another contract discussion on offense that is expected to end up being the biggest of them all. Watkins and Tardif way over paid next year. Likely cuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 For 2020, the Tyreek Hill extension is irrelevant to the cap picture. His deal is mostly going to be absorbed by a Watkins trade or release. Watkins and Hill were never both going to be on the roster with huge contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, liquidfriend said: For 2020, the Tyreek Hill extension is irrelevant to the cap picture. His deal is mostly going to be absorbed by a Watkins trade or release. True but its still very relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,124 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Um yeah I think everyone knows Watkins isn’t getting to cash I. On his last year minus a 1500 yards 12-13 TD season. Easier to replace a RG than a wr in Andy’s system and if he doesn’t improve this year then they will both get cut. Chris Jones will get paid and then we will wait one more year till Hutchins horrid contract is off the books. If we keep drafting well then everything should work out great, even with Mahomes contract looming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,614 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, FANATIC said: It’s plausible that Spagnuolo views Jones as a great luxury while on his rookie contract, but not worth the cap expense he will command on the open market next summer. Whether the Chiefs choose to extend (or franchise tag) Jones remains to be seen, but the decision to keep five d-tackles combined with the landscape of the Chiefs’ cap in 2020 seems to indicate that 2019 may be Jones’ final season in a Chiefs uniform. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this roster decision is one that is not being talked about very much: Does the Chiefs’ decision to keep so many at the position indicate that Chris Jones will be the odd man out when his contract expires after this season? A quick glance at the Chiefs’ major cap hits in 2020: Frank Clark $22.7 million Sammy Watkins $21 million Tyreek Hill TBA but expected to be between $15 and $20 million Tyrann Mathieu $16.3 million Eric Fisher $12 million Anthony Hitchens $11.3 million Mitchell Schwartz 10.8 million Travis Kelce $10.4 million Laurent Duvernay-Tardif $9 million Eric Berry $8 million in dead money That’s over $135 million dollars tied up in just nine players on the roster. And that’s not counting *ahem* another contract discussion on offense that is expected to end up being the biggest of them all. Watkins and tardif off the board and you are at 105 million. Now it does depend on how Tardif does this year but Watkins with either either restructure or he gets cut. Plus what we would have also from other players gone and our cap space rolled over etc. I think we will be just fine to tag Jones or extend him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Watkins and tardif off the board amd you are at 105 million. Now it does depend on how Tardif does this year but Watkins with either either restructure or he gets cut. Plus what we would have also from other players gone and our cap space rolled over etc. I think we will be just fine to tag Jones or extend him What has Tardiff done for this team besides get his PHD in the off-season. That's why they didn't pay Morse crazy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DefensiveMan said: What has Tardiff done for this team besides get his PHD in the off-season. That's why they didn't pay Morse crazy money. its hard to argue with what you say.. he's a JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DefensiveMan said: What has Tardiff done for this team besides get his PHD in the off-season. That's why they didn't pay Morse crazy money. He had one really good half season where he was playing dominant football as against the run and the pass. And John Dorseys stupid ass paid him like a top 10 guard because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Julio Jones just signed 3yr $65m guaranteed extension. Hill's looks much better now, 3yrs $35m guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 hours ago, FANATIC said: It’s plausible that Spagnuolo views Jones as a great luxury while on his rookie contract, but not worth the cap expense he will command on the open market next summer. Whether the Chiefs choose to extend (or franchise tag) Jones remains to be seen, but the decision to keep five d-tackles combined with the landscape of the Chiefs’ cap in 2020 seems to indicate that 2019 may be Jones’ final season in a Chiefs uniform. Perhaps the biggest takeaway from this roster decision is one that is not being talked about very much: Does the Chiefs’ decision to keep so many at the position indicate that Chris Jones will be the odd man out when his contract expires after this season? A quick glance at the Chiefs’ major cap hits in 2020: Frank Clark $22.7 million Sammy Watkins $21 million Tyreek Hill TBA but expected to be between $15 and $20 million Tyrann Mathieu $16.3 million Eric Fisher $12 million Anthony Hitchens $11.3 million Mitchell Schwartz 10.8 million Travis Kelce $10.4 million Laurent Duvernay-Tardif $9 million Eric Berry $8 million in dead money That’s over $135 million dollars tied up in just nine players on the roster. And that’s not counting *ahem* another contract discussion on offense that is expected to end up being the biggest of them all. The same source I read that said we were close to a deal with Tyreek, says the same thing about Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: Julio Jones just signed 3yr $65m guaranteed extension. Hill's looks much better now, 3yrs $35m guaranteed. We definitely got the hometown discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: We definitely got the hometown discount. I dont see it as a discount. less guarantee correct........ discount....Hill got top end going rate money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: We definitely got the hometown discount. We got the what goes on at his home discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, NChiefsCorner said: We got the what goes on at his home discount. My opinion is that didn’t matter with the numbers at all. But rather they built some precise protections from what I read into the contract which lets the team out if any of the nonsense re-emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, FANATIC said: I dont see it as a discount. less guarantee correct........ discount....Hill got top end going rate money We got him for 2 million per season less than his open market value and that guarantee is 25 million less than Julio Jones. Certainly not cheap, but a good value deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Plus Hill is 25 and Jones turns 31 this year, much more likely Jones begins to drop off versus Hill. As long as protections built in, I think we got a hell of a good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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