Crazy Continues

[xen 1,010,220]

33 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

If you're good enough to beat it, yes that's true.  Some people are great at it, but most people aren't.

There's still enough evidence surrounding it to lead me to believe it's legit.

Well if her evidence is real then she has a great case.  Polygraphs are still junk though, it's not a matter of beating it.  It really only measures nervousness.  People are usually nervous when being grilled by the popo.  Here is one of the text messages he allegedly sent.  If real this should have a lot more weight:

[reesebobby 5,662]

12 hours ago, xen said:

Well if her evidence is real then she has a great case.  Polygraphs are still junk though, it's not a matter of beating it.  It really only measures nervousness.  People are usually nervous when being grilled by the popo.  Here is one of the text messages he allegedly sent.  If real this should have a lot more weight:

I bet teams had to double check his wonderlic score to see if he really was that stupid. 

[Handswarmer 645]

14 minutes ago, reesebobby said:

I bet teams had to double check his wonderlic score to see if he really was that stupid. 

i bet it didn't even register....

[Handswarmer 645]

Coming out of high school, Brown applied to Florida State University. His admission was denied over academic concerns

Shocker!

Once he finished his lone season at North Carolina Tech Prep, he received a scholarship to play at Florida International University, but he was expelled before the season for an altercation with security.

Double Shocker!!

Brown had difficulty adjusting to the college lifestyle, and being on time for meetings and practice.

Didn't see that coming....

Red flags? What?

[Adamixoye 604]

6 minutes ago, Handswarmer said:

Red flags? What?

In addition to the "almost killed a kid with a chair/couch" story, I had forgotten this story:  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25931165/steelers-wr-antonio-brown-involved-domestic-dispute-not-arrested

There is way more smoke with this guy than some other guys who have been labeled terrible dudes and/or punished by the league.

[Handswarmer 645]

2 minutes ago, Adamixoye said:

In addition to the "almost killed a kid with a chair/couch" story, I had forgotten this story:  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25931165/steelers-wr-antonio-brown-involved-domestic-dispute-not-arrested

There is way more smoke with this guy than some other guys who have been labeled terrible dudes and/or punished by the league.

I don't understand why he would throw it all away- his NFL career, the money, the lifestyle, his budding wordsmith abilities.....

[oldtimer 8,686]

6 minutes ago, Handswarmer said:

I don't understand why he would throw it all away- his NFL career, the money, the lifestyle, his budding wordsmith abilities.....

cant fix stupid?

[liquidfriend 1,151]

6 hours ago, reesebobby said:

I bet teams had to double check his wonderlic score to see if he really was that stupid. 

Probably not something you'd want to advertise if you're Central Michigan.

19 hours ago, xen said:

Well if her evidence is real then she has a great case.  Polygraphs are still junk though, it's not a matter of beating it.  It really only measures nervousness.  People are usually nervous when being grilled by the popo.  Here is one of the text messages he allegedly sent.  If real this should have a lot more weight:

If the person administering the polygraph is worth a salt, they can differentiate general nervousness and nerves over dishonesty.  But yes, generally you'd just toss out those results if you're handling a criminal case.  But since this is a civil trial instead, could be an issue for his party.  Totally up to the judge.

[xen 1,010,220]

4 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

Probably not something you'd want to advertise if you're Central Michigan.

If the person administering the polygraph is worth a salt, they can differentiate general nervousness and nerves over dishonesty.  But yes, generally you'd just toss out those results if you're handling a criminal case.  But since this is a civil trial instead, could be an issue for his party.  Totally up to the judge.

There's a reason they're not used in criminal courts.  They're bunk.

[liquidfriend 1,151]

Just now, xen said:

There's a reason they're not used in criminal courts.  They're bunk.

Criminal court is an entirely different beast than civil.

[xen 1,010,220]

Just now, liquidfriend said:

Criminal court is an entirely different beast than civil.

They shouldn't be allowed in any court.  

[liquidfriend 1,151]

Just now, xen said:

They shouldn't be allowed in any court.  

His douche lawyer will probably have some issues getting them dismissed if the judge presiding considers it as credible.

[Handswarmer 645]

In October 2018, he was sued on allegations of angrily throwing furniture from an apartment balcony that almost hit a toddler. Brown claimed he did not throw the furniture, and in July 2019 the lawsuit was settled.

Brown was cited in November 2018 for reckless driving, clocking over 100 mph. He didn't show up to his court date and was found guilty in February.

Wiltrice Jackson, the mother of one of Brown's five children, accused Brown of shoving her to the ground at his home in Florida on Jan. 17 when she was seeking reimbursement for their son's haircut. Heitner, Brown's attorney, at the time labeled the accusations "baseless and false."

In July, celebrity chef Stefano Tedeschi claimed in a lawsuit Brown owes him $38,521 because Brown failed to pay Tedeschi after he cooked for Brown and the player's guests at the 2018 Pro Bowl.

The next month a personal trainer sued. Sean Pena claimed Brown owes him more than $7,100, according to TMZ Sports, which reported that Heitner, Brown's attorney, said Pena already had been paid what Brown owed him.

Now, Brown faces his most serious problem yet — Taylor's lawsuit.

[BroncoStud 3,253]

On 9/11/2019 at 8:55 PM, xen said:

Well if her evidence is real then she has a great case.  Polygraphs are still junk though, it's not a matter of beating it.  It really only measures nervousness.  People are usually nervous when being grilled by the popo.  Here is one of the text messages he allegedly sent.  If real this should have a lot more weight:

AB is apparently barely literate.  What a dumbass.  How did he make it through any of his college courses?

[BroncoStud 3,253]

On 9/13/2019 at 10:03 AM, Handswarmer said:

In October 2018, he was sued on allegations of angrily throwing furniture from an apartment balcony that almost hit a toddler. Brown claimed he did not throw the furniture, and in July 2019 the lawsuit was settled.

Brown was cited in November 2018 for reckless driving, clocking over 100 mph. He didn't show up to his court date and was found guilty in February.

Wiltrice Jackson, the mother of one of Brown's five children, accused Brown of shoving her to the ground at his home in Florida on Jan. 17 when she was seeking reimbursement for their son's haircut. Heitner, Brown's attorney, at the time labeled the accusations "baseless and false."

In July, celebrity chef Stefano Tedeschi claimed in a lawsuit Brown owes him $38,521 because Brown failed to pay Tedeschi after he cooked for Brown and the player's guests at the 2018 Pro Bowl.

The next month a personal trainer sued. Sean Pena claimed Brown owes him more than $7,100, according to TMZ Sports, which reported that Heitner, Brown's attorney, said Pena already had been paid what Brown owed him.

Now, Brown faces his most serious problem yet — Taylor's lawsuit.

Yeah, this guy has 3 years left in the league - tops.

[qnet 1,150]

On 9/18/2019 at 9:08 AM, BroncoStud said:

AB is apparently barely literate.  What a dumbass.  How did he make it through any of his college courses?

I agree, that text message is really hard to understand.

[oldtimer 8,686]

and now

A second woman alleging she experienced sexual misconduct from Antonio Brown emerged Monday in a lengthy story on Brown’s behavior over the last few years.

Now, the same woman is saying the New England Patriots wide receiver responded to her claims by sending an intimidating group text message to her that included photos of her children, according to Sports Illustrated’s Robert Klemko, who wrote the original story.

The latest accusation against Antonio Brown

The woman claiming to receive intimidating texts from Brown is the one who anonymously accused the receiver of advancing on her while he was naked with a towel barely covering his penis in 2017. She was reportedly painting a mural in his Pittsburgh home for him at the time.

After rejecting his unwanted advances, the artist said Brown ended their professional relationship and ghosted her despite still not having paid for a painting of her’s he won at a charity auction.

Brown denied the account through his lawyer when the story was published, but reportedly responded to his accuser privately by sending her a profane and bizarre group text message.

The accuser’s lawyer included screencaps of the messages in a letter to the NFL sent Thursday. The messages appear to show Brown ordering an associate to investigate the artist and including a picture of her children pulled from her Instagram account.

Robert Klemko

 

✔@RobertKlemko

 

 

New tonight: Antonio Brown sent our source from Monday’s story menacing group text messages, including a picture of her children with instructions for his associates to investigate her.

Her lawyer wrote the NFL calling for the intimidation to stop. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/19/antonio-brown-accuser-text-messages …

 

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Sports Illustrated reportedly verified the texts were sent from the same number Brown used with the artist in 2017. Brown’s lawyer Darren Heitner was reportedly included in the group text, but told the outlet he had not advised Brown to communicate with the woman.

On Thursday evening, Lisa J. Banks, a lawyer for the artist, reportedly sent the letter to the NFL seeking an end to Brown's conduct that she called “intimidating and threatening to our client, in violation of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.”

From Sports Illustrated:

“Our client ... is understandably frightened by these text messages, which are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate her,” the lawyer wrote. “While she certainly qualifies as a ‘starving artist,’ she has never approached Mr. Brown, nor will she, about seeking money to compensate her for his sexual misconduct, contrary to his allegations in the text messages.”

When Sports Illustrated reached out to a phone number supposedly belonging to Brown, a man sounding like Brown answered, then replied to a text asking for proof of his claim that the woman asked him for money with “foh clown.”

Even more accusations have emerged against Antonio Brown. (Photo by John Tlumacki/The Boston Globe via Getty Images)

This accusation comes amid the NFL’s investigation into a lawsuit against Brown alleging sexual assault and rape filed last week by a different woman, a trainer with whom he used to work.

Rather than be placed on the commissioner’s exempt list immediately following the allegations, Brown was allowed to be active for the Patriots in Week 2 after signing a one-year, $15 million deal with the team. He still could be facing a suspension from the league over that matter, as well as this one.

The situation has already hit Brown in the wallet, costing him a shoe deal with Nike as well as a helmet deal he picked up after a bizarre grievance fight. Allegedly contacting a woman who has made serious allegations against him — and in this manner — during a delicate investigation process could potentially cost him even more.