dhitter 1,424 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: Jackson has the ability to get there, but isn't there quite yet. Problem for them is his window will be pretty short once he arrives, because of his playing style. What I told my son. Jackson is a dual threat. What usually happens with running QBs is they get clocked good in a game...concussion or shoulder and it changes their decision making from then on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, SEMO said: Secondary was atrocious. Tackling sucked. Corners did what they could, given the situation. HB sucked out loud though. Leaders on the Defense need to actually play like leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, liquidfriend said: Corners did what they could, given the situation. HB sucked out loud though. Leaders on the Defense need to actually play like leaders. I’ll tell ya who is impressing me on this D, and that is Ogbah. Great motor. Was in the backfield a lot today. As far as this secondary, the corners are garbage. If there is ANY chance to get Ramsey they better do it. I don’t care if it does cost two 1s. DefensiveMan, gochiefsgo and ChiefsFoolFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, SEMO said: I’ll tell ya who is impressing me on this D, and that is Ogbah. Great motor. Was in the backfield a lot today. As far as this secondary, the corners are garbage. If there is ANY chance to get Ramsey they better do it. I don’t care if it does cost two 1s. Yeah, I'm not saying the corners are good by any means. Just what exactly should we expect from them when there's no pass rush at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: Yeah, I'm not saying the corners are good by any means. Just what exactly should we expect from them when there's no pass rush at all? All the more reason to upgrade. Same shit as werther’s secondary. 3rd and long conversions. Brady will torch them just like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, SEMO said: All the more reason to upgrade. Same shit as werther’s secondary. 3rd and long conversions. Brady will torch them just like last year. Not quite. With Sutton, they'd get a sack and a TFL to set up 3rd and incredibly long only for werthers to rush 3 and get fist fucked every time. Spagnuolo is mixing it up, but it's just a player breakdown at this point. Front 4 needs to do a heck of a lot better because right now they would make even Jalen Ramsey look like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: Corners did what they could, given the situation. HB sucked out loud though. Leaders on the Defense need to actually play like leaders. Actually, HB played pretty good. Several pass break ups including a near interception. Maybe not worth the cost yet, but better. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: Not quite. With Sutton, they'd get a sack and a TFL to set up 3rd and incredibly long only for werthers to rush 3 and get fist fucked every time. Spagnuolo is mixing it up, but it's just a player breakdown at this point. Front 4 needs to do a heck of a lot better because right now they would make even Jalen Ramsey look like shit. Ramsey would have made the plays on those wounded ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 33-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: Actually, HB played pretty good. Several pass break ups including a near interception. Maybe not worth the cost yet, but better. JMHO Yep....defense as a whole is a work in progress. I was more disappointed in the run defense today than the pass. I see flashes. Still...better than under Sutton qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: Actually, HB played pretty good. Several pass break ups including a near interception. Maybe not worth the cost yet, but better. JMHO Dropped at least 2 chances to close the game out for good and was out of position for some big plays. For 14m, my expectations are much higher. 1 minute ago, kkuenn said: Ramsey would have made the plays on those wounded ducks. Perhaps, but they won anyhow and never needed Ramsey to beat the Ravens. He'll be a non-factor when it matters without better player execution all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, dhitter said: Yep....defense as a whole is a work in progress. I was more disappointed in the run defense today than the pass. I see flashes. Still...better than under Sutton Yeah. The D line seemed to be making contact but couldn't stop the runners, especially Ingram. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 There's still another month plus till the trade deadline, so the D overall can certainly make progress. As it stands today though, I think if they were going to make a trade to help get over the top, it'd be better served to add some better protection for Pat on Offense. Spfdchiefsfan, TomahawkChop and FANATIC 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Was a blowout and let off the gas the entire 4th, did it without our top offensive weapon and LT also. I liked how our defense responded after scoring drives in the 1st Q and right out of halftime. FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 If you surround Lamar Jackson with a legitimate NFL quarterback, he could become a very average running back. SEMO and Jollyredjj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, gochiefsgo said: Agreed. They are not a team that likes to roll over. Too much river boat gambler stuff from Harbaugh there that cost them. yep, went to that well one too many times...it would have worked if sutton were still here but he ain't and it cost them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, soonerborn77 said: Was a blowout and let off the gas the entire 4th, did it without our top offensive weapon and LT also. I liked how our defense responded after scoring drives in the 1st Q and right out of halftime. i am still having a tough time understanding why we decided to kick a FG with 10 seconds left in the 1st half, surely they could have taken one shot at the endzone before settling for 3. and Pat was hot about it or was it the fact that they wasted too much time getting back to the LOS to run the play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Andy had his gaffes today. It fortunately didn't come back to haunt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Andy being Andy. Could the Ravens have won? Sure but they squeezed about every drop of luck from that game they could and still were 5 away at the end. We went ultra vanilla in the second half and our D fell asleep on that first drive of the second half. Had we been aggressive in the second half I believe we could have hung 40-45 on a very good D. We need to burn some of these teams and rip out their souls. Score 60 and let the pieces fall where they may. Great win today against a better team in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 hours ago, qnet said: It was a good game, and you have a tough, tough team. I'll say. The Ravens are very tough. Ingram seemed unstoppable. I was impressed how we set the edge and took away the Jackson runs. I had a feeling that would happen. Mahomes was so damned good, many in subtle ways we would not have seen last year. He's definitely better than his MVP season. That last pass to Darryl Williams on 3rd and 10 iced it. But I have to say that the push off that was definite offensive pass interference was one of the most blatant errors by an official I have seen in a long time. How the reviewer didn't even call it was a travesty. The game would not have been that close had it not been for that error. My vocal cords are shot. As I promised you all, I would take the rap if we lost. Now, I am asking for the credit for the win. I'm sure glad the rain never really happened. It would have been a lot more comfortable not to have to carry all that scuba gear around, and it was difficult to stash it under my seat. kcchief4lif, azchief21 and Chiefmanzada 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: Andy being Andy. Could the Ravens have won? Sure but they squeezed about every drop of luck from that game they could and still were 5 away at the end. We went ultra vanilla in the second half and our D fell asleep on that first drive of the second half. Had we been aggressive in the second half I believe we could have hung 40-45 on a very good D. We need to burn some of these teams and rip out their souls. Score 60 and let the pieces fall where they may. Great win today against a better team in this league. Cam Erving is a huge liability. We just couldn't play our game. We aren't going to be capable of doing what you are demanding until we have Fisher back, Add in Hill, and we can do whatever we want whenever we want. For now, Cam Erving at LT is the biggest Achilles heel the Chiefs have. BTW, Robinson just keeps getting better and better, and so does Hardman, but Mahomes needs the protection to get the ball to them. We need to find a way to keep Mahomes alive and healthy without Fisher there. Bubble screens to our fine receiving RB's will help us survive the next several weeks without more than a couple of losses, hopefully only one. But we definitely need Fisher. Either that or get a better option there than Erving. All he has to be is mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Good game Handz, have a day. Better luck next year buddddy. Next time Reid won't be so nice, aka playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The only thing I took from this game is Chris Jones needs to be signed, and we need another corner for this SB run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 hours ago, liquidfriend said: Yeah, I'm not saying the corners are good by any means. Just what exactly should we expect from them when there's no pass rush at all? There was pass rush up the middle. The ends seemed to be playing contain to keep Jackson from taking off. Probably, by design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, SEMO said: There was pass rush up the middle. The ends seemed to be playing contain to keep Jackson from taking off. Probably, by design. If I can get some time, I'll have to go through and chart the pressure rate. Kinda curious, myself. Either way, with whatever flaws this team has or does not have, they are in the elite tier of NFL franchises right now and tbh it's no contest. It's basically NE = KC Big gap here Pretty much Everyone else The difference is NE is as peak as it can possibly be while KC can get better. SEMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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