WR trade value

[beltranfan 4]

The chiefs appear stacked 4 deep at WR.  Lots of talent plus the fact that an elite QB makes average receivers look good as well.   We all saw Manning and Favre and Rodgers and Brady make WR look great, then those guys would get big FA deals with other teams never to be heard from again.   So what would the trade value of a Hill or Watkins be?   Could we get enough draft capital to go out and get a starting corner?    What looks better in the playoffs:  Hill, Watkins, Hardeman, Robinson, Kelce  or Hill, Robinson, Hardeman, Kelce and Ramsey or Peterson

[jetlord 10,209]

Don't want Ramsey.  It would be like having a worse version of Peters here.  The Cards would never trade Peterson for Watkins.  If the Chiefs get Peterson, it will cost them big time. 

[sith13 1,746]

I'm all for trading Watkins as he's likely gone after this season and wouldn't mind trading Hill either as I think Robinson might have a decent upside. However I don't want any divas on the roster like Ramsey. He'll be a huge trouble during contract negotiations and that could linger for long after he signs it as well. Either player for Peterson is a win IMO and Cardinals should rejoice having a proven WR acting as the deep threat for their hot young QB. Fitzgerald is already the possession guy and will be gone soon. 

[Mloe68 1,521]

6 hours ago, jetlord said:

Don't want Ramsey.  It would be like having a worse version of Peters here.  The Cards would never trade Peterson for Watkins.  If the Chiefs get Peterson, it will cost them big time. 

Ramsey is a much better pure corner than Peters. And very physical presence vs the run as well! Apparently very well liked in the locker room. More Kelce than Peters for shenanigans.  I think reality Veach all but said he would have never drafted Peters but looked like he was actively pursuing Ramsey speaks volumes.  Cost is gigantic though.  In fact right now I don’t even think he’s on the block.  

[CranjisMcbasketball 780]

I would keep them all this season and claim “hey we are going to score 40 points every game good luck winning.”

look at dealing watkins after the season

[Calichief 3,016]

You don’t trade anyone now. In 2020 , yes 

[Palangi 788]

Instead of Ramsey I would trade Watkins for a DT to play opposite Jones. 

[jetlord 10,209]

1 hour ago, Palangi said:

Instead of Ramsey I would trade Watkins for a DT to play opposite Jones. 

Are you that down on Nnadi?  Sure, the Chiefs could improve at any position, but the real need is a stud LG, a LB, and a CB.  Like back up TE, the Chiefs aren't in an ideal position, but they can get by. 

[liquidfriend 1,151]

1 hour ago, Calichief said:

You don’t trade anyone now. In 2020 , yes 

Correct.  They will start to recoup the trading away they've done, but today is not that day.

Ask again in March.

[Calichief 3,016]

46 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

Correct.  They will start to recoup the trading away they've done, but today is not that day.

Ask again in March.

And you don’t give weapons away. Who are you gonna game plan for? 

[FANATIC 852]

1 hour ago, jetlord said:

Are you that down on Nnadi?  Sure, the Chiefs could improve at any position, but the real need is a stud LG, a LB, and a CB.  Like back up TE, the Chiefs aren't in an ideal position, but they can get by. 

I dont know who anyone should be down on but the run defense is still ugly. Somewhere there are players that are simply not playing well or talented enough to be starting.

[Balto 723]

Chiefs get:

Patrick Peterson, CB

Marcell Dareus, DT

 

Cards get:

Jalen Ramsey, CB

 

Jags get:

Sammy Watkins, WR

2020 Cards 1st

2020 Chiefs 2nd

[liquidfriend 1,151]

52 minutes ago, Calichief said:

And you don’t give weapons away. Who are you gonna game plan for? 

I think they've gotta do something with Sammy, so it puts them in a bind there.

They'll be fine weapon wise.

[WichitaZRide 321]

I just can't get behind trading offensive weapons until we have a SB ring.  We are one injury from having Byron Pringle on the field.  As much as I want to believe that Mahomes is the next Manning/Brady and that ANY WR will be successful with an Andy ran offense with Mahomes at the helm, I don't have a large enough of a sample size to be confident enough to trade pro-bowl caliber WRs just yet.  I get flashbacks to playoff games where one offensive weapon (Charles/Kelce) going down changed the complexion of the game and ultimately led to a loss.

[Calichief 3,016]

48 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

I think they've gotta do something with Sammy, so it puts them in a bind there.

They'll be fine weapon wise.

Next year yes, this year, no.

[liquidfriend 1,151]

25 minutes ago, Calichief said:

Next year yes, this year, no.

Well yeah.  They have 20 something mil in cap space. 

Next year it's 2 before any carry over.  That's a big problem.

[Mloe68 1,521]

1 hour ago, liquidfriend said:

I think they've gotta do something with Sammy, so it puts them in a bind there.

They'll be fine weapon wise.

20 million in dead cap if they do. That's not happening. He will however be traded during the offseason he has a 1,200 yard, 12 TD season type season. And our CAP hit would only be 7 million to do that. 

[jetlord 10,209]

28 minutes ago, Mloe68 said:

20 million in dead cap if they do. That's not happening. He will however be traded during the offseason he has a 1,200 yard, 12 TD season type season. And our CAP hit would only be 7 million to do that. 

DRob will expect to be paid.  Hill is being paid.  Watkins is being paid.  No way can the Chiefs keep all three and Hardman is the relief valve.  Watkins is a luxury the Chiefs just can't afford next season.

[Mloe68 1,521]

5 minutes ago, jetlord said:

DRob will expect to be paid.  Hill is being paid.  Watkins is being paid.  No way can the Chiefs keep all three and Hardman is the relief valve.  Watkins is a luxury the Chiefs just can't afford next season.

That's why I'm saying a big year by him sets us up to trade and not release him. 

[liquidfriend 1,151]

40 minutes ago, Mloe68 said:

20 million in dead cap if they do. That's not happening. He will however be traded during the offseason he has a 1,200 yard, 12 TD season type season. And our CAP hit would only be 7 million to do that. 

That's uh what I've been talking about all along

[liquidfriend 1,151]

But if they did get some stupid lopsided trade offer than well I'd certainly do it as soon as Hill was back which is like a 0% probability thing

[Mloe68 1,521]

8 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

That's uh what I've been talking about all along

Gotcha. Topic was trading this year, sorry for the confusion. Contract wise we could trade Tyreek or DRob. But why mess with the offense. 

[FANATIC 852]

29 minutes ago, Mloe68 said:

That's why I'm saying a big year by him sets us up to trade and not release him. 

I doubt anyone wants his salary hit. I think its over 20 million?

[kkuenn 3,597]

11 minutes ago, FANATIC said:

I doubt anyone wants his salary hit. I think its over 20 million?

Well he can alwaya get traded and do an extension too as part of it.

[FANATIC 852]

8 minutes ago, kkuenn said:

Well he can alwaya get traded and do an extension too as part of it.

Sure. I think teams know he could get cut & wait.