DieHard 2,061 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Thanks for bumping this. Its a trips down Lunacy Lane. Good times. Good times. Iluvhouse24, West and Calichief 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Would be nice if 2018 could contribute a little more, but 2019 is looking like 🔥🔥🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Adamixoye said: Would be nice if 2018 could contribute a little more, but 2019 is looking like 🔥🔥🔥 Watts, DOD, coming through in their limited roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Calichief said: Watts, DOD, coming through in their limited roles. Hence my use of the word "more" Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Adamixoye said: Hence my use of the word "more" Too lazy to look up the rest. I know Speaks was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 10/20/2019 at 6:38 PM, kkuenn said: Well people were on Veach and his picks. Speaks and Nnadi are from 2018, Veach did not have a 1st rounder that year. We have yet to see Speaks in the new system so he is yet to be judged. Watts and Nnadi look to be good starters/depth players going forward. Possibly 3 picks out of 6 good so far, DOD has yet to do anything but still on the team. 2019 picks look solid in Thornhill and Hardman. Throw in the fact Saunders is coming on and still has plenty to learn and seeing what we saw out of Fenton looking good. Still have Allegretti and Thompson learning the system and yet to see what we have in them. Throw in the fact we received Clark too. So out of 6 possible picks we have 2 starters, 2 upcoming guys and 2 yet to see time I think Veach has down really well in his 2 drafts so far. It will be nice to see what he can do with the cap space, get out of Jones (if they sign and trade as Saunders may be the real deal or we may not be able to afford him) and then go into FA then the draft knowing what we need. Very exciting to have the team signed for the near future and still so young. Then going out and getting Pennell who may be worth a look to extend after this season if he is in fact in shape and plays like he has before. I guess we just need to give him time and his picks time to see what they really do have for us. I said this before in this thread and it still stands. Also said I loved the Clark signing and he will bring it on. Veach has done very well and we have yet to see this off season/draft yet plus FA period. I would like to see Allen Lazard sign with us. He is young and will come cheap. Thing is he is 6'5" and 227 pounds. He would be that tall good target needed for Mahomes opposite of Hill. He ran a 4.5 with 38 inch vert. If Hardman does take a bit longer, having Lazard, Hill and Kelce in there would help tremendously. This is a type of signing Veach would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Calichief said: Too lazy to look up the rest. I know Speaks was one. Speaks, Nnadi, DOD, Watts, Tremon Smith, McKenzie So put Nnadi in the plus column, Speaks TBD especially in this defense, Smith and McKenzie non-factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: Speaks, Nnadi, DOD, Watts, Tremon Smith, McKenzie So put Nnadi in the plus column, Speaks TBD especially in this defense, Smith and McKenzie non-factors. Yea, overall, very little impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Smith and McKenzie were 6th round picks. You can't really call them misses. Overall not an eyepopping draft, but we didn't have a lot of draft capital due to the Mahiomes trade up. Speaks could still be something. None the less, Veach's overall body of work has been nothing less than outstanding. Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, reesebobby said: Smith and McKenzie were 6th round picks. You can't really call them misses. Overall not an eyepopping draft, but we didn't have a lot of draft capital due to the Mahiomes trade up. Speaks could still be something. None the less, Veach's overall body of work has been nothing less than outstanding. That's fair, my only counterpoint would be that those late round picks are supposed to be flyers so you either have to hit on them or you have to collect extra picks. Veach has given up a lot of draft capital moving up not just for Mahomes but for smaller moves in those mid-rounds in 2018 and 2019. So while I agree that you can't grade a 6th round miss too harshly, he's put more eggs in single baskets for many of our draft picks. Overall, though, I give him a pretty high grade considering his role in vouching for Mahomes before he was GM, an above average 2-year run of drafting in 2018-2019, and his FA signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, DieHard said: Thanks for bumping this. Its a trips down Lunacy Lane. Good times. Good times. It was run by the negative Nancy's in here. Same one's damning the Hardman pick, Clark pickup and all the other Madden/Fantasy Football GM comments. DieHard and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Think I'll just put this here as a reminder Veach killed free agency too. West, Mloe68 and artsy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 1:22 PM, Adamixoye said: Would be nice if 2018 could contribute a little more, but 2019 is looking like 🔥🔥🔥 We still have to give Speaks a real opportunity with this current defensive staff. They did wonders for Tanoh and I think we all know Speaks was playing out of position last year. It wasn't a good draft but then again when you start without any top 50 picks that makes it tough. I think Brett Veach like anyone else has had to grow into this position. Definite learning curve. But man has he done a phenomenal job of flipping players we didn't want into productive young guys with more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, xen said: Think I'll just put this here as a reminder Veach killed free agency too. The leadership from Honey Badger and Clark was just gigantic in creating a new culture. This isn't a great defense by any means. Some real holes there Spags has had to cover up. But they just have a different mentality. Huge coaching upgrade up and down the defensive staff didn't hurt. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: The leadership from Honey Badger and Clark was just gigantic in creating a new culture. This isn't a great defense by any means. Some real holes there Spags has had to cover up. But they just have a different mentality. Huge coaching upgrade up and down the defensive staff didn't hurt. Yes sir! Spags has been a "godsend" to this team, and in my opinion, "IF" we win the SB, he should be the KC Chiefs MVP. (Person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Didn't want to start a new thread but DJ on Twitter getting into the online analyst thing. Why not. Mloe68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, xen said: Didn't want to start a new thread but DJ on Twitter getting into the online analyst thing. Why not. Execllent analysis. DJ should get into coaching. By the way...That play by HB is why is he an ALL PRO. I'm a club Football Coach, and was recruited in college to play corner. That play by HB was executed flawlessly. There are not many DB's in the NFL that have the Football IQ or athleticism to make that play. Matthieu is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, xen said: Didn't want to start a new thread but DJ on Twitter getting into the online analyst thing. Why not. There’s a good video out there on how well DOD played in his 12 snaps on defense. Super fast and instinctive. I think he’s going to play a lot next year. and if we play sf in the sb, he’ll be out there a lot against all those rb’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Calichief said: There’s a good video out there on how well DOD played in his 12 snaps on defense. Super fast and instinctive. I think he’s going to play a lot next year. and if we play sf in the sb, he’ll be out there a lot against all those rb’s There was a lot of mix and match and perhaps trial and error by Spags trying to replace Thornhill. Speaks volumes about how good Thornhill was this year. And that Spags can dig deep and look outside the obvious box to try and hide those coverages like he does so well. It was clear however we missed Thorn on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 7:25 PM, Chiefsfan1963 said: It was run by the negative Nancy's in here. Same one's damning the Hardman pick, Clark pickup and all the other Madden/Fantasy Football GM comments. I still think DK Metcalf would of been the better long term pick. Overall I love what Veach has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Balto said: I still think DK Metcalf would of been the better long term pick. Overall I love what Veach has done. If the Chiefs only wanted a WR then yes but I believe they brought Hardman to fill the role of a return man as well as WR. Don't think Metcalf does much returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Balto said: I still think DK Metcalf would of been the better long term pick. Overall I love what Veach has done. I've come to love Hardman. Dude's a baller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chiefmanzada said: I've come to love Hardman. Dude's a baller Gonna need him this week. As much as I have faith in this team, you know anything can happen. No way Tennessee can cover all the weapons. Nobody has been able to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 What happens when Hardman puts in a full offseason with Hill and Mahomes and learns to run better routes? Glad we got him and that is no knock on DK and his abilities. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 It's early, but Hardman seems to have a fearless/toughness thing that Hill has and some don't. Like Watson for example. They are not your typical diva wide receivers. the Warparty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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