Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 ST used to be a strength of this team and now it's become a total liability. Every single punt or KR that comes out of the end zone results in a hold, something has got to give. I think Taub has realized he is no longer a viable option as a HC candidate at his age and has quit and is going through the motions to collect a check at this point. Or maybe it's the players? Regardless, DAT needs to go. I'd rather see Hardman back there. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hardman has good returns. dat fumbled again. he needs to go. and he’s dropped key passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Right now our DVOA special teams ranking is 19th. We haven't been outside the top ten since Toub got here and have been top 4 the last four years. So something is going on. We did come close to breaking one yesterday. History would suggest we will see much improved play from this group going forward. But I'd love to know why Toub thinks they aren't performing at the level he normally expects. I guess lack of motivation on his part is possible, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Chief 1,092 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Special teams was much improved last night. DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Joe_Chief said: Special teams was much improved last night. Agreed. The stop on the extra point, the fake punt sack, and the big return were all big plays. DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The sooner DAT is gone the better. Almost every touch of his is negative. I just don’t get why they brought him back. Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Calichief said: Hardman has good returns. dat fumbled again. he needs to go. and he’s dropped key passes DAT is beyond done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, DefensiveMan said: DAT is beyond done. When did he ever get started? I think he had one huge return in his career, and he's run a bunch of wr sweeps for 2 yards. He's fast, but I swear he has no instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Dat isnt fast.. Dat is quick..... i.e. quick change of direction etc.. but not fast... like 5th fastest reciever on the team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Toub has been a beast until the last couple years. At this point you have to question the mental competency of someone who views dat as an essential piece of his special teams unit. Seems like toub always gets one roster spot for his choosing, and using it on dat is stupidity DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 hours ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Toub has been a beast until the last couple years. At this point you have to question the mental competency of someone who views dat as an essential piece of his special teams unit. Seems like toub always gets one roster spot for his choosing, and using it on dat is stupidity But he's the toughest guy pound 💷 for pound 💷 on the team remember? If Marcus Kemp doesn't get hurt DAT never comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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