KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 With the Patriots leading 33-0 in the fourth quarter on Monday night, they took a delay of game penalty with their punt team on the field. After the Jets declined the penalty, the clock started again, and the Patriots’ punt team waited until they were about to get another delay of game, then false started. The Jets declined the false start penalty, too, the clock started again, and then the Patriots finally punted. When the Patriots’ third-down play ended, 11:05 remained in the fourth quarter. By the time the Patriots actually punted on fourth down, 9:43 remained. The whole point of the play clock is that teams can’t take more than 40 seconds between plays, but the Patriots, thanks to that running clock after their penalties, took 1 minute, 22 seconds. Patriots coach Bill Belichick was shown on television smirking on the sideline after that series of penalties, and he acknowledged after the game that the penalties allowed him to take plenty of extra time off the clock. He added that league rules probably shouldn’t allow that. “No, it was just the way the rules are set up. We were able to run quite a bit of time off the clock without really having to do anything. That’s probably a loophole that will be closed and probably should be closed but right now it’s open,” Belichick said. The Patriots were so far ahead in the fourth quarter that it really didn’t matter, but Belichick is right that this loophole should be closed. Teams shouldn’t be able to take more than 40 seconds off the clock between plays. Perhaps this is a rule Belichick wants to see changed, and he was waiting until just the right time to demonstrate that it needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,685 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 and just another reason why they win.. they know loopholes in the rules just like weakness in other teams.. they exploit what is available better than anyone else BroncoStud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Other coaches should have learned by now. I have no sympathy. our own coach could learn a few things qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That means taking certain cheap shots are ok, I mean if you're not going to be ejected for the first one than have everyone take one. Exploit the loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,219 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 18 hours ago, Calichief said: Other coaches should have learned by now. I have no sympathy. our own coach could learn a few things Considering he's probably the best coach of all time I would assume every coach could learn something from BB. Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoStud 3,253 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sounds like smart strategy to me... Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 10:26 AM, oldtimer said: and just another reason why they win.. they know loopholes in the rules just like weakness in other teams.. they exploit what is available better than anyone else The maneuver he pulled a few years back where the Ravens had no idea what WRs were eligible and who wasn’t....was a stroke of genius. Three straight first downs later Harbaugh called timeout and then threw a fit after the game about BBS clear intent to confuse the Ravens. Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 hours ago, xen said: Considering he's probably the best coach of all time I would assume every coach could learn something from BB. Right. But why aren’t other people Learning to exploit things? That’s my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Calichief said: Right. But why aren’t other people Learning to exploit things? That’s my point. I think it has something to do with class and sportsmanship. Yes he wins but I have yet to run across too many people who respect him and or like him. Then again I don't live in Mass either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: I think it has something to do with class and sportsmanship. Yes he wins but I have yet to run across too many people who respect him and or like him. Then again I don't live in Mass either. Let me be clear- I’m not talking about the dirty stuff, cheating etc. I’m talking in game things. Strictly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Calichief said: Let me be clear- I’m not talking about the dirty stuff, cheating etc. I’m talking in game things. Strictly. It goes hand and hand. It's hard to see one when you know about the other. You know there are those who despise Hill due to the offseason accusations and will never look at him without thinking did he or didn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: It goes hand and hand. It's hard to see one when you know about the other. You know there are those who despise Hill due to the offseason accusations and will never look at him without thinking did he or didn't he. If it was our coach he would be a genius too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Calichief said: If it was our coach he would be a genius too.. You obviously don't know me. I'm not perfect and know it but I do hold grudges. I would never sing Belicheats praises like I wouldn't want Gregg Williams as part of this coaching staff. KCSLC2008 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: I think it has something to do with class and sportsmanship. Yes he wins but I have yet to run across too many people who respect him and or like him. Then again I don't live in Mass either. He's the best coach in NFL history. I respect that a lot and think most other people do as well. By that same token we know they push and pass the boundaries of the rules of the sport and as such most people can't stand them because at one point or another we have all been beaten by it. I'll put it this way. I really like Andy Reid. He's one of the best coaches of this era and an absolute innovator with offenses and ghost whisperer for QBs. Its part of why I think we have some legit chance against Rodgers on Sunday with a 3rd string QB who was coaching high school football two months ago. That said if BB was our HC. You could pencil us in for 3-4 Super Bowl titles the next decade with a healthy Mahomes. BB is that much better than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 5:14 PM, Calichief said: Other coaches should have learned by now. I have no sympathy. our own coach could learn a few things On 10/23/2019 at 7:40 PM, Calichief said: Right. But why aren’t other people Learning to exploit things? That’s my point. Agreed 100% This has always frustrated me about the rest of the NFL. He hasn't been outcoached a lot but it's happened a few times. The Ravens, Rex Ryan, and even Andy Reid has got him a few times, but Belichick has mostly won. Tom Coughlin seems to have his number in big games. In his own words Mike Shanahan gave him problems also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The Patriots will be exposed when they play an actual NFL team. I'm not sure I've seen a weaker SOS up to this point. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I think if you want to give the Patriots credit for finding some magic loophole, then you also have to point out that they were incredibly stupid to exploit it at the end of a game where they were leading 33-0. Now, coaches that may not have been aware of the rule will have had a chance to think about how to handle it on the other side. KCSLC2008 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I am guilty of saying it’s all Brady, but he guy went 11-5 with Cassel and Sammy Morse. The prick is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Skip is hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsYzFhjKXSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,661 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:24 PM, DieHard said: I am guilty of saying it’s all Brady, but he guy went 11-5 with Cassel and Sammy Morse. The prick is pretty good. Todd Haley went 10-5 with Cassel in 2010. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, reesebobby said: Todd Haley went 10-5 with Cassel in 2010. That’s a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 605 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 8:06 AM, reesebobby said: I think if you want to give the Patriots credit for finding some magic loophole, then you also have to point out that they were incredibly stupid to exploit it at the end of a game where they were leading 33-0. Now, coaches that may not have been aware of the rule will have had a chance to think about how to handle it on the other side. I was going to say he should’ve saved it for when he really needed the clock to run down. It would probably have to be done outside of the last two minutes. But then the article goes on to say that maybe he wanted the loophole closed... why? Because he thinks the advantage is too little but someone might do it against him? Or why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Not sure how this would help you considering it took the opposing team to decline the penalty. Accept the penalty and there is not exploitation. Some of y'all are making it sound like this strategy would work in a meaningful game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 605 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bump. Lol. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 11/16/2019 at 10:26 PM, Lamardirts said: Not sure how this would help you considering it took the opposing team to decline the penalty. Accept the penalty and there is not exploitation. Some of y'all are making it sound like this strategy would work in a meaningful game. As you saw last night outside of 5 minutes the clock keeps ticking. You can eat a minute or two without putting the ball in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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