qnet 1,150 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'm not sure how much ( SOS) strength of matters, and it's something I've been looking at. The Chiefs, Texans, Packers, and Saints are the only teams with winning records that have faced only two teams this season under .500 The Saints impress me the most because they've done it the majority of the season without Drew Brees, although I do think Bridgwater is better than most backups. The Pats and Niners have faced the most teams under .500 but they have beat the winning-record teams when they played them. If the Patriots or 49ers win the SB I will not longer worry about SOS, but i'm following it this year and wondering how much it affects a teams confidence and if it matters. DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, qnet said: I'm not sure how much ( SOS) strength of matters, and it's something I've been looking at. The Chiefs, Texans, Packers, and Saints are the only teams with winning records that have faced only two teams this season under .500 The Saints impress me the most because they've done it the majority of the season without Drew Brees, although I do think Bridgwater is better than most backups. The Pats and Niners have faced the most teams under .500 but they have beat the winning-record teams when they played them. If the Patriots or 49ers win the SB I will not longer worry about SOS, but i'm following it this year and wondering how much it affects a teams confidence and if it matters. The Saints have a very good TEAM. Not just a few good players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, artsy said: The Saints have a very good TEAM. Not just a few good players.. Yes I agree, that's why they impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, qnet said: I'm not sure how much ( SOS) strength of matters, and it's something I've been looking at. The Chiefs, Texans, Packers, and Saints are the only teams with winning records that have faced only two teams this season under .500 The Saints impress me the most because they've done it the majority of the season without Drew Brees, although I do think Bridgwater is better than most backups. The Pats and Niners have faced the most teams under .500 but they have beat the winning-record teams when they played them. If the Patriots or 49ers win the SB I will not longer worry about SOS, but i'm following it this year and wondering how much it affects a teams confidence and if it matters. SOS definitely matters. We are about to play our fifth straight home game against a team in the playoffs. And we’ve struggled. 4-0 on the road against four non playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: SOS definitely matters. We are about to play our fifth straight home game against a team in the playoffs. And we’ve struggled. 4-0 on the road against four non playoff teams. Yes the Chiefs have struggled, but they haven't been dominated other than the Colts game, and that was sort of a revenge game for them. I'm trying to be objective about this, but still want to find some hope. Before Mahomes got hurt, early in the Broncos game it looked like the Chiefs had figured out what hurt them in the previous three games (two they lost). Mahomes was 10 of 11, getting the ball out quickly with short passes, and Reid was mixing in running plays. The defense after the Broncos first drive limited the penalties, and shut the Broncos down. This may be a moot point but I think Mahomes & Reid had figured out whatever teams were doing and getting Hill back didn't hurt. i think this Chiefs team may be better than a lot of us think, but with the injuries not sure how far they will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, qnet said: Yes the Chiefs have struggled, but they haven't been dominated other than the Colts game, and that was sort of a revenge game for them. I'm trying to be objective about this, but still want to find some hope. Before Mahomes got hurt, early in the Broncos game it looked like the Chiefs had figured out what hurt them in the previous three games (two they lost). Mahomes was 10 of 11, getting the ball out quickly with short passes, and Reid was mixing in running plays. The defense after the Broncos first drive limited the penalties, and shut the Broncos down. This may be a moot point but I think Mahomes & Reid had figured out whatever teams were doing and getting Hill back didn't hurt. i think this Chiefs team may be better than a lot of us think, but with the injuries not sure how far they will go. There’s injuries at the wrong positions that can derail any team. And against playoff level teams we’ve seen that happen to us. Get those crucial guys back and I’d play any of those again and feel pretty good. qnet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: There’s injuries at the wrong positions that can derail any team. And against playoff level teams we’ve seen that happen to us. Get those crucial guys back and I’d play any of those again and feel pretty good. Agreed. I just hope Reid stays with what he was doing when Mahomes and the others get back.The high-flying offense is fun to watch, but I don't think the Chiefs have the defense to do that right now, and still dominate. The defense is getting better, but I'm wondering if the slightly more ball-control offense that the Chiefs have been forced into is helping that some. A lot bring up how the Chiefs offense is so explosive, but they forget the Alex Smith led Chiefs. That offense was a more typical WCO with short passes and running the ball. The Chiefs were in some grind it out, tough games back then, and the defense was solid. It wasn't until the playoffs were we got burned, and the wheels fell off Sutton's defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Saints are my favorite to win it all right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 The Saints are really good, and it wouldn't surprise me if they won it all. I did however make a mistake, they have played three teams under .500 not two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCK Chiefs Fan 425 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 as much as I want the Chiefs to win the SB, if it comes down to the Pats and Saints, I'll root for the Saints. They have a good team> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, qnet said: I'm not sure how much ( SOS) strength of matters, and it's something I've been looking at. The Chiefs, Texans, Packers, and Saints are the only teams with winning records that have faced only two teams this season under .500 The Saints impress me the most because they've done it the majority of the season without Drew Brees, although I do think Bridgwater is better than most backups. The Pats and Niners have faced the most teams under .500 but they have beat the winning-record teams when they played them. If the Patriots or 49ers win the SB I will not longer worry about SOS, but i'm following it this year and wondering how much it affects a teams confidence and if it matters. Good post, Q. Will be interesting as this plays out when the Pats & 9ers play somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 One thin rarely mentioned when talking about SOS, that is injuries. Teams who play weak ass teams tend to stay healthier than teams that have to play tougher teams do. It's the nature of the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: One thin rarely mentioned when talking about SOS, that is injuries. Teams who play weak ass teams tend to stay healthier than teams that have to play tougher teams do. It's the nature of the beast. Patriots start their fun stretch of games. Physical games, teams coming off Byes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, DefensiveMan said: Patriots start their fun stretch of games. Physical games, teams coming off Byes. Teams will be coming for bear. They will expose their weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: Teams will be coming for bear. They will expose their weakness. Yup, you and I have been saying this. There will be some adversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCK Chiefs Fan 425 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: Teams will be coming for bear. They will expose their weakness. I hope these teams that come loaded for bear are actually be loaded for patriots ass and kick the hell out of Brady and the pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The Pats aren't that strong. The Cleveland game would've been closer if it weren't for the 2 early TO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, azchief21 said: Good post, Q. Will be interesting as this plays out when the Pats & 9ers play somebody. Good teams beat the teams in front of them. Chiefs would be in a good spot has they been prepared to play Indy. They were not. Houston is a talented team. Indy, had no business beating kc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,598 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Calichief said: Good teams beat the teams in front of them. Chiefs would be in a good spot has they been prepared to play Indy. They were not. Houston is a talented team. Indy, had no business beating kc. People have said this about our game against Indy, yet Indy then went and beat Houston too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I think Chiefs are to comfy at home games. I want all road playoffs DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 hours ago, kkuenn said: People have said this about our game against Indy, yet Indy then went and beat Houston too. We played right into their game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Calichief said: We played right into their game plan. If we played Indi like we did the last two games on defense we would have demolished them. Rogers just went into HOF mode against us - nothing you can do about that. Keep up the aggressive attack mode mentality and we'll be fine moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 hours ago, ChiefThunder said: The Pats aren't that strong. The Cleveland game would've been closer if it weren't for the 2 early TO's. I believe it was 3 turnovers. 2 fumbles and an INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, DefensiveMan said: If we played Indi like we did the last two games on defense we would have demolished them. Rogers just went into HOF mode against us - nothing you can do about that. Keep up the aggressive attack mode mentality and we'll be fine moving forward. Agreed, it took some time to figure things out it seems. It's better to figure it out now IMO and take the L's. Mahomes coming back, along with some other key players, and the Chiefs could be poised for a nice run, including the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, qnet said: Agreed, it took some time to figure things out it seems. It's better to figure it out now IMO and take the L's. Mahomes coming back, along with some other key players, and the Chiefs could be poised for a nice run, including the postseason. I'm fine with giving up 60 yard TD's once in a while. Get a quick turnaround and the ball right back to Mahomes. Father Time Sutton's bend but don't break defense did nothing for our offense. Clock kept chewing up, D getting gassed, while Mahomes and company sitting on the bench cold and out of rhythm. We needed this change so we'll see if it pays dividends down the line like you said. DieHard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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