Chiefswinitall 60 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Last couple of weeks without those guys the Defense was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrowhead78 36 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Pretty sure the freight train that is Derrick Henry did. Oh and 53 54 and 59 were no shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Chris Jones gets up field, which is great against the pass, but he often finds himself with RBs going to the area he formerly occupied. His strength is also his weakness, because he's not a hole clogger. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Combination of things. They played Joey Ivie instead of Mike Pennel and Khalen Saunders who played great recently, especially with Chris Jones at end. Frank Clark is not setting the edge and they are running at him Arrowhead78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Combination of things. They played Joey Ivie instead of Mike Pennel and Khalen Saunders who played great recently, especially with Chris Jones at end. Frank Clark is not setting the edge and they are running at him Exactly why was Ivie playing over Saunders? Why didn't we see more of Jones on the end since Ogbah went out? Spags was bad today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Why was Pennell inactive? Biggest question from a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Combination of things. They played Joey Ivie instead of Mike Pennel and Khalen Saunders who played great recently, especially with Chris Jones at end. Frank Clark is not setting the edge and they are running at him I'm anything but a Clark apologist, but how do you get that he wasn't setting the edge? The Titans ran everything between the tackles, so there was literally no edge to set. The lined up and hit our bad run defense right in the mouth at the shortest point of contact. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, moons314 said: I'm anything but a Clark apologist, but how do you get that he wasn't setting the edge? The Titans ran everything between the tackles, so there was literally no edge to set. The lined up and hit our bad run defense right in the mouth at the shortest point of contact. To me they ran to clark and jones side every time and clark was being pushed back off the line a couple yards every play leaving jones to cover a huge area. Thats how my eyes saw it FANATIC and Chiefswinitall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, CranjisMcbasketball said: To me they ran to clark and jones side every time and clark was being pushed back off the line a couple yards every play leaving jones to cover a huge area. Thats how my eyes saw it It looked more to me like it was all right up the middle. Setting the edge is about keeping the ballcarrier from getting outside, forcing them back in to the other defenders. The linebackers and safeties in the middle were getting bulldozed all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: To me they ran to clark and jones side every time and clark was being pushed back off the line a couple yards every play leaving jones to cover a huge area. Thats how my eyes saw it Clark has a reason. He says he has a pinched nerve. I got a pinched nerve watching Titans running all over KC. Clark should stay off the field until he declares he is 100%. This way excuses are not in question. Clark: Please......Stay home until you are 100% capable of earning your 20 million per year contract. You suck at whatever health percentage you have played with this , recently revealed, so called pre season injury. So get 100% because watching suck is not entertaining. bamaroyal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Not playing Saunders was a huge mistake. pennel inactive, terrible choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, moons314 said: It looked more to me like it was all right up the middle. Setting the edge is about keeping the ballcarrier from getting outside, forcing them back in to the other defenders. The linebackers and safeties in the middle were getting bulldozed all day. Agreed, im just saying that in the scenario where they would have tried to run outside clark would have been pushed back so far he wouldn’t have been able to do that. I think we are basically saying the same thing which is that everybody sucked and the titans probably could have ran the ball anywhere they wanted to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Nnadi and the other DTs got shoved around and the LBs have no instinct in the run game. Throw in Sorenson doing nothing and Thornhill wiffing and the inside was trash. And HB looks tiny out there. That guy isn’t a run stuffer. We need a mean and big ILB who can command the middle, a fat guy who doesn’t get shoved at DT, and a smashing safety. Too much finesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, Calichief said: Not playing Saunders was a huge mistake. pennel inactive, terrible choice Pennel was inactive lmao what?! He , Saunders, and Nnadi destroyed it last week. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, gochiefsgo said: Why was Pennell inactive? Biggest question from a lot of people. THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, Calichief said: Not playing Saunders was a huge mistake. pennel inactive, terrible choice Well it is clear there is no reason to think this D will be effective. Mahomes and the offense will need to play almost perfect for KC to win. Same as last year. Its dissapointing as it appeared some strides had been made. It was a smoke screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, FANATIC said: Well it is clear there is no reason to think this D will be effective. Mahomes and the offense will need to play almost perfect for KC to win. Same as last year. Its dissapointing as it appeared some strides had been made. It was a smoke screen. Perfection today would have almost happened if Williams didn’t gift them a touch down. That is just how any mistake can sink the offense despite a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Thegoatee said: Perfection today would have almost happened if Williams didn’t gift them a touch down. That is just how any mistake can sink the offense despite a great game. Yeah Williams is a solid rotational 2. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: Perfection today would have almost happened if Williams didn’t gift them a touch down. That is just how any mistake can sink the offense despite a great game. Players fumble. Its part of the game. Williams had a very good game. Turnovers happen. The really good teams overcome them. Reid was way more responsible for this loss with his horrific clock management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 minute ago, FANATIC said: Players fumble. Its part of the game. Williams had a very good game. Turnovers happen. The really good teams overcome them. Reid was way more responsible for this loss with his horrific clock management. A fumble is one thing. A defensive touch down is a bit more damning. The more amazing thing is Mahomes not throwing picks. If he even threw a handful to this point, we’d probably have a losing record. We literally have to be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, Thegoatee said: A fumble is one thing. A defensive touch down is a bit more damning. The more amazing thing is Mahomes not throwing picks. If he even threw a handful to this point, we’d probably have a losing record. We literally have to be perfect. Titans fumbled and KC only got 3 points. Lots of blame to go all around. This is one of the worst team efforts KC has done in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Robert Quinn with 7.5 sacks on the year for Dallas. Reiterating that cheaper reinforcements were available. Chiefswinitall and FANATIC 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The momentum swing from a fumble return TD is huge. It is also like 4 games in a row that a RB has lost a fumble or at least 4 out of the last 5. With as little as we run the ball that can be crippling. We are gifting a team points when our game plan is for them to try and play catch up. Can't happen, at least not a return for a TD. I'm really embarrassed we lost to such an inept team. Ryan Tannehill is the qb and Derrick Henry has averaged 3.5 yards a game up to this point.....he's probably avg over 5 with that 200 yard outburst. Thegoatee is right....we have to be perfect on offense. Lesean Mccoy has not been the answer we needed and I do now believe we inquired about L. Bell. RB is a bigger need than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 MARVIN K MOONEY........WILL YOU PLEASE GO NOW. Dr Seuss..........FANATIC TAKE: FRANK CLARK WILL YOU PLEASE GO HOME. Chiefs DE Frank Clark admitted he's been playing through a pinched nerve all season. Clark said the pinched nerve has been bothering him since training camp. Some of his symptoms include "burning sensations" in his arm and numbness in his fingers. Clark feels the ailment could be to blame for his poor performance this year (PFF's No. 50 4-3 defensive end among 57 positional qualifiers). "I've been playing kind of timid this whole season," Clark mused after Sunday's loss to Tennessee. "That's why I've been kind of slow." The 26-year-old finished among the league leaders with 14 sacks last season but has only been credited with four QB takedowns in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Chiefswinitall said: Last couple of weeks without those guys the Defense was pretty good. No, the Chiefs deactivated Mike Pennel and didn't play Ragland very much at all. They gave more snaps to Joey Ivie than Saunders and Nnadi. For whatever reasons, Spags went with a lighter defensive front against the Titans and it was completely the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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