soonerborn77 276 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Let’s not forget even this year MVP has played a little under 3 less games and only has 300 yards less of total offense then LJ. In all the hype, MVP is still unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: Let’s not forget even this year MVP has played a little under 3 less games and only has 300 yards less of total offense then LJ. In all the hype, MVP is still unreal It doesn't really matter. The total numbers will play a major role rather than the average when making the decision as well as the overall team performance. At this point any guy that misses time will be left out of the race IMO. Mahomes can easily catch up and possibly exceed Jackson if he stays healthy but we might need more of a Brady-type performance from Mahomes for SB this year moving the ball from the ground and keeping the offense on the field rather than flashy numbers. oldtimer and the Warparty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, sith13 said: It doesn't really matter. The total numbers will play a major role rather than the average when making the decision as well as the overall team performance. At this point any guy that misses time will be left out of the race IMO. Mahomes can easily catch up and possibly exceed Jackson if he stays healthy but we might need more of a Brady-type performance from Mahomes for SB this year moving the ball from the ground and keeping the offense on the field rather than flashy numbers. Yep. Having your QB as the league MVP is nice. Having a Super Bowl championship ring on his hand? Off the chart. sith13, qnet, oldtimer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, dhitter said: I don't know. Do you think teams are still figuring their identity out in September as opposed to November? We absolutely destroyed the Patriots in week 1 a couple years ago. Guess we were the better team that year? September games are often fool's gold. November/December are not. Again, we have yet to even remotely have a complete team health wise, which is lining up for us to do so going into the playoffs. We are still figuring ourselves out too. We will beat Ravens and even Titans if they make it. Browns destroyed the Ravens while the Titans were destroyed by us and we loss still. I like our chances still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Praying spags doesn’t conclude we need to stop the pass and activates joey ivie instead of mike pennel next time we play the ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Praying spags doesn’t conclude we need to stop the pass and activates joey ivie instead of mike pennel next time we play the ravens Looking at the way Ingram ran all over us I doubt it but it's tough to ignore Ivie's pass rush skills. There hasn't been anyone as good since DT. the Warparty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Again, we have yet to even remotely have a complete team. Could have just stopped there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Again, we have yet to even remotely have a complete team health wise, which is lining up for us to do so going into the playoffs. We are still figuring ourselves out too. We will beat Ravens and even Titans if they make it. Browns destroyed the Ravens while the Titans were destroyed by us and we loss still. I like our chances still Not discounting the injuries. They certainly have hampered the Chiefs. But the saying goes "every team deals with injuries so...next man up." I'm not saying the Chiefs couldn't beat the Ravens again. But the Chiefs are a very flawed team. Interior Oline is below average in the run game. Linebackers are below average. Just the run game on both sides is weak overall. We have flashes now and then. The Ravens avg. better than 200 yards a game rushing the ball. That's a problem in colder months when passing games dwindle down and the run game becomes more of a weapon. That concerns me...greatly. FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 An interesting article. Not sure where it goes so I'll put it here, but there's stuff related to the TOP discussion also. It's pretty long so I'll just give you the link. https://thepowerrank.com/2018/09/24/the-surprising-truth-about-passing-and-rushing-in-the-nfl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 To be honest, I'm not feeling like we beat Baltimore in the playoffs if we play them. But a few things that keep my glass half full: We've seen top shelf young QBs falter in the playoffs Its about to get real cold for Lamar Jackson To add to my second point - They are going to play 5 December games. Three in Baltimore, one in Buffalo, and one in Cleveland. If we see them in the playoffs it will most likely be in January in Baltimore. Five weeks of getting hit in the cold may make Lamar Jackson approach running the ball so much a little differently, and might put more wear and tear on him than he has had so far this season. FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, dhitter said: Interior Oline is below average in the run game. Linebackers are below average. Just the run game on both sides is weak overall. I think that is part of Andy's issue he never seems to get Maulers up front for the Offensive side of the ball. As it stands this chiefs team does not match up well at all with any January football team like the ravens. I sure the hell am not getting my hopes up for a post season run. Based on Andy, The defense, and pretty much every other damn variable involved with the Kansas city Chiefs and post season football. artsy, dhitter and FANATIC 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Praying spags doesn’t conclude we need to stop the pass and activates joey ivie instead of mike pennel next time we play the ravens Ivie got released last week. Even further proves how ignorant the move was to start him at Tennessee and deactivate Pennel. 2 weeks later he is gone and Pennel looks like an extension candidate. They royally screwed the pooch on that gameplan and likely cost us any chance at a playoff bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, kcchief4lif said: I think that is part of Andy's issue he never seems to get Maulers up front for the Offensive side of the ball. As it stands this chiefs team does not match up well at all with any January football team like the ravens. I sure the hell am not getting my hopes up for a post season run. Based on Andy, The defense, and pretty much every other damn variable involved with the Kansas city Chiefs and post season football. Yep. Every playoff team in the AFC can run the ball and play defense.....Except for one KC Chiefs. kcchief4lif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 We have yet to see a long run of games where the chiefs play lights out. I think us getting healthy and playing a few below average teqms sets us up perfectly for a run in and into the playoffs. reesebobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, artsy said: Yep. Every playoff team in the AFC can run the ball and play defense.....Except for one KC Chiefs. None of those teams have Mahomes. So there is that. AlwaysChiefs and kcchief4lif 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Ravens...Lamar....Harbaugh......Will fold when the pressure of the playoffs combined with Reid/Mahomes combo come to town. double digit win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, FANATIC said: None of those teams have Mahomes. So there is that. No shit. And Kelce and Hill and Watkins and Hardman. People are acting like we are some kind of underdog to all these awesome AFC teams that run the ball. A healthy KC team is absolutely in the hunt for the AFC Championship. Mloe68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Let me clarify something. I am not predicting the Chiels will lose to any particular team in the playoffs. They are certainly capable of winning. Some teams do pose a problem as far as matchups. To deny that is blind homerism. Having said that....GO CHIEFS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, dhitter said: Not discounting the injuries. They certainly have hampered the Chiefs. But the saying goes "every team deals with injuries so...next man up." I'm not saying the Chiefs couldn't beat the Ravens again. But the Chiefs are a very flawed team. Interior Oline is below average in the run game. Linebackers are below average. Just the run game on both sides is weak overall. We have flashes now and then. The Ravens avg. better than 200 yards a game rushing the ball. That's a problem in colder months when passing games dwindle down and the run game becomes more of a weapon. That concerns me...greatly. There's injuries and then there's injuries. Pull Lamar Jackson out of the Ravens offense and tell me how the next man up thing goes. In the middle of the season we replaced the league MVP with a high school coach. The Ravens were 2nd in the league in rushing last year and had the #2 defense. They got beat in the wild card round by the Chargers who got dick slapped the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, reesebobby said: There's injuries and then there's injuries. Pull Lamar Jackson out of the Ravens offense and tell me how the next man up thing goes. In the middle of the season we replaced the league MVP with a high school coach. The Ravens were 2nd in the league in rushing last year and had the #2 defense. They got beat in the wild card round by the Chargers who got dick slapped the next round. Jackson is the real deal BUT.........likley to get injured at some point. He was still running with a huge lead. Seems like a guy that wants STATS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, FANATIC said: Jackson is the real deal BUT.........likley to get injured at some point. He was still running with a huge lead. Seems like a guy that wants STATS. Yes. He's absolutely amazing. But that kind of quarterback generally has a short shelf life. I had been thinking Pat Mahomes would have the AFC to himself when Brady and Big Ben retire. Apparently not. FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcchief4lif 910 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 29 minutes ago, dhitter said: Let me clarify something. I am not predicting the Chiels will lose to any particular team in the playoffs. They are certainly capable of winning. Some teams do pose a problem as far as matchups. To deny that is blind homerism. Having said that....GO CHIEFS!! I concur. Anything given Saturday, Sunday, Monday or Thursday. But gosh DAMN!!! It's the freaking chiefs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, dhitter said: Let me clarify something. I am not predicting the Chiels will lose to any particular team in the playoffs. They are certainly capable of winning. Some teams do pose a problem as far as matchups. To deny that is blind homerism. Having said that....GO CHIEFS!! How many teams do we not pose a matchup problem for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, reesebobby said: There's injuries and then there's injuries. Pull Lamar Jackson out of the Ravens offense and tell me how the next man up thing goes. In the middle of the season we replaced the league MVP with a high school coach. The Ravens were 2nd in the league in rushing last year and had the #2 defense. They got beat in the wild card round by the Chargers who got dick slapped the next round. Not sure what your point is here. My point was injuries happen and you can't use them as an excuse. So next man up applies. You bring up the Mahomes injury and Moore did an amazing job filling in for PM15. Better than anyone would have imagined. The one loss Moore incurred had nothing to do with his play. Chiefs let a RB go off for a career day. Those flaws The Chiefs have that I pointed out. They were the reason.😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, reesebobby said: How many teams do we not pose a matchup problem for? One dimensional teams often get exposed come playoff time. They look great during the year but when it's win or go home time their flaws really show out. 50 years of watching the Chiefs has proven that to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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