Lamardirts 2,114 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Wow that didn't take long. I feel like Kitchens was his pendulum hire to try and control his coach and it back fired big time. I'm sure he didn't love having an all powerful coach like Andy but that hire had to be his downfall. https://sports.yahoo.com/browns-reportedly-fire-gm-john-dorsey-192809814.html West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Kitchens was all him and his downfall too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Browns also requested to interview EB for the head coaching position. Panthers and Giants as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, xen said: Browns also requested to interview EB for the head coaching position. Panthers and Giants as well. Never go to Cleveland. You will have 1 or 2 years and then done. You will not be better off for it professionally and the only reason to go is knowing you would have 3 years of pay doing no work once they fire you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, reesebobby said: She's probably just referring to the skid marks in her granny panties. West, reesebobby, oldtimer and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: She's probably just referring to the skid marks in her granny panties. Is Skid Marks what they're calling Mayfield these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, azchief21 said: Is Skid Marks what they're calling Mayfield these days? I doubt he's ever been in her panties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, jetlord said: I doubt he's ever been in her panties. He's made a lot of bad decisions on the field. Why not a few off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Lots of splash signings and trades and kept Kitchens who is not a leader of men to be coach. Dorsey is overrated and is not getting another GM job if teams are smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Dorsey seems like an A- talent evaluator, a C+ capologist, and a D- coworker. Glad we made the right choice between him and Andy. Iluvhouse24 and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 All those cats need to thank Andy for their status in the league IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, azchief21 said: He's made a lot of bad decisions on the field. Why not a few off the field? His commercials are a lot better than the State Farm crap mahomes signed up for. azchief21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Dorsey let Baker Mayfield influence his decision to hire Kitchens...a guy with no head coaching experience and it bit him hard. Kitchens was a bad choice both from an Xs and Os level as well as how he handled himself and the team in the public eye. I would be shocked if they hired EB since he has no head coaching experience. They would more likely be looking for a Mike McCarthy type hire IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 This smells like a Josh McDaniels move. Josh is from there, Browns asked for a interview and you’d think Josh would want a gm/HC type of power job like hoodie has. Plus he might be seeing what Pats will be like without Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Balto said: This smells like a Josh McDaniels move. Josh is from there, Browns asked for a interview and you’d think Josh would want a gm/HC type of power job like hoodie has. Plus he might be seeing what Pats will be like without Tom. interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, xen said: Browns also requested to interview EB for the head coaching position. Panthers and Giants as well. Lots of talent in Carolina. that’s where I’d go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, reesebobby said: His commercials are a lot better than the State Farm crap mahomes signed up for. I doubt it will, but I really hope all that bread Patrick is pulling in will allow him to give us at least a tiny discount. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Adamixoye said: I doubt it will, but I really hope all that bread Patrick is pulling in will allow him to give us at least a tiny discount. One has nothing to do with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, dhitter said: One has nothing to do with the other. Money has nothing to do with money? I said I doubted it. But this comes up in the NBA in particular, guys take a little less in situations where they know they can win and rack up endorsements in other areas. I'm sure he'll get a record setting contract, but maybe he doesn't quite destroy the market because he wants to win and knows we've put him in a situation where he's making all these commercials and will continue to have good visibility as long as we have a competitive team. Again, it's a long shot and I'm not talking about some huge discount. But it's not insane to suggest that maybe he doesn't go after every single dollar for these reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Most superstars in sports with any personality have lots of endorsement deals. They make millions of dollars. Russell Wilson for example recently did a contract making him the highest paid player in the NFL. I didn't see a discount there. His money made outside of playing the game had zero affect on where the contract ended up. The same will be true of Mahomes. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, dhitter said: Most superstars in sports with any personality have lots of endorsement deals. They make millions of dollars. Russell Wilson for example recently did a contract making him the highest paid player in the NFL. I didn't see a discount there. His money made outside of playing the game had zero affect on where the contract ended up. The same will be true of Mahomes. NBA players do it all the time. If they wanted to make the most money, they would stay with the teams that have their Bird rights. But many of them move to take less in order to win and/or play in a bigger market. And that bigger market affects their endorsement potential, usually. You can argue an NFL player wouldn't do the same, but Tom Brady has been providing a (slight) discount for years. We're not really disagreeing by much. You are saying any discount is impossible. I am saying a small discount is very unlikely but possible. And we're also unlikely to ever know whether or not he gets 100% of what he could have had or something less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: NBA players do it all the time. If they wanted to make the most money, they would stay with the teams that have their Bird rights. But many of them move to take less in order to win and/or play in a bigger market. And that bigger market affects their endorsement potential, usually. You can argue an NFL player wouldn't do the same, but Tom Brady has been providing a (slight) discount for years. We're not really disagreeing by much. You are saying any discount is impossible. I am saying a small discount is very unlikely but possible. And we're also unlikely to ever know whether or not he gets 100% of what he could have had or something less. when MVPats wife is worth $400 Mil he might take a pay cut Ѕhе hаѕ thе оnlу ѕоurсе оf іnсоmе іѕ mоdеllіng аlоng wіth еndоrѕіng thе fаѕhіоn brаndѕ. Тhе nеt wоrth оf Gіѕеlе Вundсhеn іѕ ѕtаggеrіng $400 Міllіоn wіth аn аnnuаl ѕаlаrу оf $44 mіllіоn аnd $128,000 dоllаrѕ реr dау. Моrеоvеr, Gіѕеlе wоrе thе wоrld’ѕ mоѕt ехреnѕіvе brа frоm Vісtоrіа’ѕ ѕесrеt whісh wоrth $15 mіllіоn. Еаrlіеr Неr Соntrасt Wіth Vісtоrіа’ѕ Ѕесrеt Wаѕ а Rесоrd- Вrеаkіng $25 Міllіоn UЅ dоllаrѕ. Неr huѕbаnd NFL quаrtеrbасk, Тоm Вrаdу’ѕ еѕtіmаtеd nеt wоrth іѕ аlѕо whорріng $120 mіllіоn UЅ dоllаrѕ. Іn 2015 аlоnе іt іѕ еѕtіmаtеd ѕhе hаѕ ассumulаtеd $47 mіllіоn аnd ѕhе іѕ thе hіghеѕt раіd mоdеl іn thе wоrldѕ. Тhоugh thе lаrgе раrt оf hеr nеt wоrth іѕ thаnkѕ tо аdvеrtіѕеmеnt саmраіgn аnd brаnd еndоrѕеmеnt. https://thenetworthportal.com/wiki-2018-2019-2020-2021/model/gisele-bundchen-net-worth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, oldtimer said: when MVPats wife is worth $400 Mil he might take a pay cut So you agree other sources of income do matter, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: So you agree other sources of income do matter, interesting. Yea sure I'll play..wen MVPat can make other than from his players contract or his wife makes and additional $45 Mil a year or becomes worth $400 Mill he MIGHT take a pay cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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