Chiefswinitall 60 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Will he make a complete recovery or do we draft another safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 The way technology is and considering his age and natural athleticism, it would be shocking if he didn’t return to full strength. But if Fuller can hold up in deep safety it makes the decision whether to keep him much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Why wouldn't he? You know how many "older" players have had this injury and came back from it to have good to great careers? He's young, medical technology is constantly getting better. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 He'll be back at near 100%, but the Chiefs will probably have to keep Dirty Dan next year in result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Why? We got Watts and Lucas too And I really wish they would use DOD in Sorenson spot. He is faster and more athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Palangi said: Why? We got Watts and Lucas too And I really wish they would use DOD in Sorenson spot. He is faster and more athletic DOD does not get it. He has to have issues understanding defense and adjusting to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Under normal circumstances you would say he will return to full speed, but the history of our training staff rehabbing knee/leg injuries is poor. Furthermore thornhill looks to be a very small framed player. I really hope he bounces back because the dude was turning into a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, liquidfriend said: He'll be back at near 100%, but the Chiefs will probably have to keep Dirty Dan next year in result. Hold your tongue!! Watts is gonna beast during the playoffs. Dont you put that ju ju on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: DOD does not get it. He has to have issues understanding defense and adjusting to it. I saw some film on Twitter of him blowing a play up last Sunday. 1 of 5 plays he was on the field for, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I would take safety if the talent is there. Even if he comes back 100%. We play 3 safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, DieHard said: I would take safety if the talent is there. Even if he comes back 100%. We play 3 safeties. All the holes we have and you want to draft a3rd safety when we have thornhill, Mathieu, watts, and Lucas already. Not to mention Fenton and fuller (if brought back) who showed promise in that role also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Palangi said: Why? We got Watts and Lucas too And I really wish they would use DOD in Sorenson spot. He is faster and more athletic I’m not remotely sold that Watts, Lucas or DOD aren’t gigantic drop offs from Thornhill. There’s a reason these guys get almost no snaps. Losing Thornhill has the look of a major blow. Hope one of these guys proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, DieHard said: I would take safety if the talent is there. Even if he comes back 100%. We play 3 safeties. Lunacy. With all the areas of need, drafting a safety early just doesn't make sense. CB, LB, IOL are all crying needs. Even if Thornhill misses games next fall, Watts can fill in better than the Chiefs can get along with the CBs and LBs they have under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'm in the camp of hoping Watts steps up, cause the less of dirty Dan the better. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 It's up to the doctors to decide. Even though we have a terrible record of anticipating recoveries we still need to trust the doctors. If they believe he won't come back 100% we should be on the market for a replacement but with the way he played this year that won't be an easy task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I was all for letting Fuller walk because of Fenton. Now with Thornhill down, and the creativity of Spags' usage of Fuller at safety...I believe we'll extend Fuller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Fuller was considered to get a similar type of deal to Nelson, I doubt we pay him that much to move him to Safety with the assumption of Thornhill coming back at some point. I don't know his market worth after this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Palangi said: All the holes we have and you want to draft a3rd safety when we have thornhill, Mathieu, watts, and Lucas already. Not to mention Fenton and fuller (if brought back) who showed promise in that role also. Yep. BPA. Right now we are one injury from starting Luca and Watts. We don’t know if or when Thornhill will be his old self. So, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, jetlord said: Lunacy. With all the areas of need, drafting a safety early just doesn't make sense. CB, LB, IOL are all crying needs. Even if Thornhill misses games next fall, Watts can fill in better than the Chiefs can get along with the CBs and LBs they have under contract. If Watts can’t beat our Dirty Dan for playing time, I am not quite ready to put my eggs in that basket. It is his time to step up. If he doesn’t, you are starting Dirty Dan next year. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, jetlord said: Lunacy. With all the areas of need, drafting a safety early just doesn't make sense. CB, LB, IOL are all crying needs. Even if Thornhill misses games next fall, Watts can fill in better than the Chiefs can get along with the CBs and LBs they have under contract. With Ward, Breeland, Fenton, Claiborne and Fuller at CB. And HB, Dan, Watts and Lucas at safety. Is it really fair to say it’s lunacy that I think safety is the thinner position group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The general recovery timetable for ACL injuries across sports seems to be that since he's so young, yes, he should get back to 100% but whatever we see of him in 2020 won't be at 100%, we'll have to wait until 2021. To those of you who say we have a bad track record of injury recovery as an organization, who other than Berry are you talking about? I can't think of examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: The general recovery timetable for ACL injuries across sports seems to be that since he's so young, yes, he should get back to 100% but whatever we see of him in 2020 won't be at 100%, we'll have to wait until 2021. To those of you who say we have a bad track record of injury recovery as an organization, who other than Berry are you talking about? I can't think of examples. Justin Houston was by far the crowning glory of failure. Chiefs doctors also had real problems with Jamaal Charles knee later in his career. Overall the problem is overstated largely because of the very high profile nature of these three.. You’ve also had some major injuries where stars have returned less than a year later and had big years. Including Jamaal Charles after a torn ACL in 2011 and Eric Berry.in 2012. And obviously major props should go out to Rick Burkholder and how he handles Mahomes knee dislocation from the get go. Probably saved our season. But it’s been a mixed bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: The general recovery timetable for ACL injuries across sports seems to be that since he's so young, yes, he should get back to 100% but whatever we see of him in 2020 won't be at 100%, we'll have to wait until 2021. To those of you who say we have a bad track record of injury recovery as an organization, who other than Berry are you talking about? I can't think of examples. We have a terrible history of estimating the recovery times. They anticipated guys like DJ, Hali, Houston, LDT, Charles to return much sooner than they ended up doing. I don't know if the staff is actually this optimistic among themselves or if it's just what we end up hearing as the public but the staff seems way too optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Palangi said: Why? We got Watts and Lucas too And I really wish they would use DOD in Sorenson spot. He is faster and more athletic I think Lucas is a FA after this season. EDIT: Jordan Lucas is a free agent after this season: https://overthecap.com/player/jordan-lucas/4917/ I'm not sure KC will bring him back, I would rather bring back Kendall Fuller. Dirty Dan will probably stay through his current deal which expires after the 2020 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Chiefswinitall said: Will he make a complete recovery or do we draft another safety? Yes, relax. The Chiefs take it slow with this type of thing so I think by week 8 or 9 next season he'll be a full 100% to go. Don't worry if he misses training camp, pre-season and the start of the season next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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