wilkie 1,518 Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 Don't kid yourself. Sammy loves playing for Andy. More than the money. He is in a PERFECT situation if he isn't greedy because defenses cannot cover Sammy double team with all the other weaponsl. Same with Damien Williams. Gotta bring his price tag down some, but I would LOVE to have him vack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Balto said: I see Hardman getting Watkins snaps and the O not skip a beat. I don't see it. Not in the same league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, wilkie said: I don't see it. Not in the same league Of course you don't. You only see 8-8. oldtimer, KC Warpaint and West 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 hours ago, wilkie said: Don't kid yourself. Sammy loves playing for Andy. More than the money. He is in a PERFECT situation if he isn't greedy because defenses cannot cover Sammy double team with all the other weaponsl. Same with Damien Williams. Gotta bring his price tag down some, but I would LOVE to have him vack Sammy had one of the best plays of the game last night... it takes a cagey veteran to beat a guy like Sherman on a critical down He's been a stud for us this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Really comes down this.....Sammy’s cap hit for next season is $21,000,000.00 We save $14M if he is cut/traded Soooo....Can Veach/Reid replace Sammy’s very very roller coaster games with sprinkles of elite plays when it matters for $14M? I personally think what Sammy did these playoffs is give himself trade value knowing a trading team would have to pay $14M vs his current $21M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I am a fan of Sammie Watkins....I hope he stays....but he is the one guy that is replaceable. Kelce and Hill are one of a kind....Hardman can be. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 the production can definitely be replaced. But there's no doubt we'd love to keep him. Playoff Sammy is nails. Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 If he is willing to extend and play 3 years at 10m a year...do we take it? Personally I think 8m a year is as high as we go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Biggjliv4 said: If he is willing to extend and play 3 years at 10m a year...do we take it? Personally I think 8m a year is as high as we go Um yea, I really don't trust ole Samny. I think we try and trade him or cut him and sign another Vet. I just dont trust Sammy's mental game. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Sammy was almost begging to stay. He loves it in KC. But his wallet will make that decision. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, artsy said: Um yea, I really don't trust ole Samny. I think we try and trade him or cut him and sign another Vet. I just dont trust Sammy's mental game. lol yeah he's only averaged 92+ yards per game over his 5 playoff games with KC. What a douche. SEMO, oldtimer, Calichief and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 It’s not the mental part I don’t trust.....It’s the injury and meh overall stats. I think lots of players can do what Sammy did this year including a 2nd year, full offseason under his belt Hardman. Also I have a feeling Williams will want to get paid if Veach goes to his people and ask for an extension. I think finding a stud RB for Reid’s system outweighs keeping Sammy by a large margin! still think a Bell from Jets makes sense and could easily see a Bell for Watkins/Williams trade happen oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 He was big when it mattered. frank Clark too. Brought in for the moment. 5 sacks in the playoffs. von Miller was the last guy to do that mex and xen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Hdisb when it mattered.... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Biggjliv4 said: If he is willing to extend and play 3 years at 10m a year...do we take it? Personally I think 8m a year is as high as we go Would still be too much invested on receivers and offense. KC can find a veteran looking for a ring for a few mill. Deep WR draft.Need to keep Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankstromboli 25 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Unfortunately, he's not worth his current salary. If he's willing to renegotiate, that'd be fine. He's hurt alot and production is iffy. He was solid in the playoffs but reg season is a different story - 53 receptions for 673 yards and 3 tds - horrible for that amount of money. You can find another wr and upgrade elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 We need that money to resign Chris Jones and to me Chris is more important to this team.........and I think Watkins is very important! I think 10 million per for 2 years is fair, probably a little too fair. And this would save us 11 million which should be a little over half of what it takes to resign Jones. I think LDT, Erving and Colquit are gone for sure and I'm not sure Dirty Dan is safe even though he was big in the playoffs. I think if we let those previous 4 go Veach could get creative and keep both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 My feeling is that Sammy deserves a lot of credit for his playoff performances, but he can be replaced. How much of his playoff stats occurred because Hill and Kelce were drawing so much attention. Could Hardman, Priingle, or Kemp done the same? Hill and Kelce make the #2 WR a lot better with better opportunities. Robinson is toast so next season should include Hill, Hardman, Pringle, Kemp, and new guy. If Sammy wants to hang around enough to take the pay cut, then by all means resign him, but don't sacrifice another position to do it. What can Watkins expect on the open market today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 He takes a restructures for less but more of it guaranteed or he is gone. I see dirty dan restructuring his deal. I think if Watkins is gone we move up Hardman to his spot and sign a cheaper red zone type guy like Lazard. LDT needs to go but resign Wis. Draft a C or RG and then use FA for RG or C who we dont draft for. Rest of spots should be draft for LB, DB and a 2nd TE. Unless of course we sign a good one in FA and then draft from there. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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