dhitter 1,424 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I really think Dustin thought with Reid and Mahomes there was a shot they could win a SB...otherwise he might have hung it up by now. His dad and brother used to do some friendly needling because they both had SB rings...and now Dustin joins them. Cool. But I think we all know Dustin isn't the punter he once was. He is not a weapon like a Kern for the Titans. Does Dustin retire now that he has a ring? Do you think Chiefs would ever cut him if he hangs on and is barely average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, dhitter said: I really think Dustin thought with Reid and Mahomes there was a shot they could win a SB...otherwise he might have hung it up by now. His dad and brother used to do some friendly needling because they both had SB rings...and now Dustin joins them. Cool. But I think we all know Dustin isn't the punter he once was. He is not a weapon like a Kern for the Titans. Does Dustin retire now that he has a ring? Do you think Chiefs would ever cut him if he hangs on and is barely average? First off, I'm really happy for Dustin to get a ring. He deserves it and has been a big part of the team for a long time. Given our cap situation, I don't see us paying a punter the kind of money he gets for very long, especially given his declining ability. I'm not sure how that ends exactly, but I think it ends fairly soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 looks cheap to me....his Cap hit was this year spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/dustin-colquitt-4375/ YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING WORKOUT CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2018 36 $1,015,000 $650,000 $35,000 $1,700,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000($3,000,000) 2019 37 $2,450,000 $650,000 $50,000 $3,150,000 $1,350,000 $2,500,000($5,500,000) 2020 38 $1,950,000 $650,000 $50,000 $2,650,000 $650,000 $2,000,000($7,500,000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I too am really happy Colquitt got a ring. For years he did his job better than anybody else on the team did theirs. At this point I don't really want to start talking about who should be cut and who needs to be upgraded. The last thing I want is for a Chiefs player to come on to our board to see what great things the fans have to say about the Superbowl win only to see a thread with fans saying they should be cut. I am sure they are busy with other things but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Super pleased he got a ring. This was the first time in years he had punts blocked and had snap issues on FG's. My gut tells me that he will retire. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 OT, I didn't quote you so as to not make a mess. 2 million is not super expensive, but half of the punters make less than a million per year and a lot of them are league minimum. That plus the fact that he is 23rd in net punting (an area that he always excelled) and 27th in gross makes him not worth 2 million a year as a punter. I wish that wasn't the case, but every million counts when you are looking at a Mahomes signing. 1 Thomas Morstead Punter $3,962,500 2 Johnny Hekker Punter $3,762,943 3 Sam Martin Punter $3,400,069 4 Sam Koch Punter $3,250,000 5 Brett Kern Punter $3,162,500 6 Riley Dixon Punter $2,900,000 Rigoberto Sanchez Punter $2,900,000 8 Bryan Anger Punter $2,750,000 Bradley Pinion Punter $2,750,000 10 Kevin Huber Punter $2,650,000 11 Andy Lee Punter $2,625,000 12 Michael Palardy Punter $2,506,667 13 Dustin Colquitt Punter $2,500,000 14 Chris Jones Punter $2,175,000 15 Jordan Berry Punter $1,850,000 16 Pat O'Donnell Punter $1,750,000 17 Mitch Wishnowsky Punter $821,018 18 Matt Wile Punter $735,000 19 Jake Bailey Punter $702,245 20 Michael Dickson Punter $687,538 21 JK Scott Punter $669,388 22 Logan Cooke Punter $632,906 23 Trevor Daniel Punter $630,000 24 Jamie Gillan Punter $588,333 25 A.J. Cole Punter $585,833 26 Corey Bojorquez Punter $570,000 Colby Wadman Punter $570,000 28 Ryan Winslow Punter $555,000 Sean Smith Punter $555,000 Ian Berryman Punter $555,000 Jack Fox Punter $555,000 32 Ty Long Punter $540,000 Trending Players view1 Patrick Mahomes (QB, KC) view2 Jimmy Garoppolo (QB, SF) view3 Tom Brady (QB, NE) view4 Greg Olsen (TE, CAR) view5 Sammy Watkins (WR, KC) Compare rates and save at Progressive.com We’ll help you find a great rate. Even if it’s not with us. Ad By Progressive See More AdChoices Trending Pages view1 2020 NFL Free Agents view2 NFL Cap Tracker view3 Kansas City Chiefs Cap Table view4 NFL Homepage view5 2020 NFL Free Agents - Kansas City Chiefs Spotrac on Twitter Tweets by spotrac oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, reesebobby said: First off, I'm really happy for Dustin to get a ring. He deserves it and has been a big part of the team for a long time. Given our cap situation, I don't see us paying a punter the kind of money he gets for very long, especially given his declining ability. I'm not sure how that ends exactly, but I think it ends fairly soon. 100% this. His current salary is too much. It's not a lot, but it's too much for what he currently brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: 100% this. His current salary is too much. It's not a lot, but it's too much for what he currently brings. It has been suggested that I could be in the genius range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 If Colquit doesn't retire, let him go. Grab the best college punter that goes undrafted and teach him to hold for Butker. Save a million and a half. Pretty basic. It's a business and the Chiefs should never again fall into the Stram era trap of keeping players too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, jetlord said: If Colquit doesn't retire, let him go. Grab the best college punter that goes undrafted and teach him to hold for Butker. Save a million and a half. Pretty basic. It's a business and the Chiefs should never again fall into the Stram era trap of keeping players too long. I'd wager that they do bring in competition IF he doesn't just retire..at least give him a chance to fight for his job for his last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Drue Chrisman*, P, Ohio State Height: 6-3. Weight: 215. Projected Round (2020): 5-7. 12/21/19: This year, Chrisman has averaged 44.1 yards per punt and has a long of 61. 6/22/19: Chrisman averaged 43.2 yards per punt in 2018 and had a long of 65 yards. In 2017, he averaged 44.2 yards per punt with a long of 62 yards. Chrisman has a strong leg and was a nice special teams weapon for Ohio State. Derek Adams, P, Kent State Height: 6-2. Weight: 193. Projected Round (2020): 6-FA. 12/21/19: Adams has averaged 43.3 yards per punt this year and has a long of 76.6/22/19: Adams averaged 40.2 yards per punt in 2018 with a long of 77 yards. He had an excellent 2017 season punting for Kent State, averaging 43.6 yards punt with a long of 74 yards. Adams averaged 40.3 yards per punt with a long of 67 in 2016. Blake Gillikin, P, Penn State Height: 6-2. Weight: 193. Projected Round (2020): 6-FA. 12/21/19: Gillikin has averaged 42.0 yards per punt in 2019 and punted a long of 72.6/22/19: In 2018, Gillikin averaged 44 yards per punt with a long of 74. Gillikin was a nice weapon for Penn State's special teams in 2017. He averaged 43.2 yards per punt with a long of 57. Gillikin had a long of 69 and averaged 42.8 yards per punt for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Don't have PFF but what did they rank him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Loosely related: Are college-style punting and punt formations ever going to make it to the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,662 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Is it just my imagination or is he much more deliberate getting rid of the ball? That blocked punt against the Texans seemed to take forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Whats the story with our long snapper? Maybe that's where we need to look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Looking back it does seem like KC has been worried about the long snapper position, to the point of bringing guys in for workout. How much this effects our kickers abilities, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt 9 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Dustin had MANY years where he was the best player on our roster. I respect him for that. But he is surely fading. AND he surely earned that ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I hope he takes his ring and calls it a day. However, if he wants to stick around for a fair price, I am fine with it. With Pat it is not like we need the stud punter that we did with the likes of Cassel or Huard under center. Spfdchiefsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, burt said: Dustin had MANY years where he was the best player on our roster. I respect him for that. But he is surely fading. AND he surely earned that ring. I know this is a take people like to have, but I don't believe a punter can ever truly be the best player on a team. During Colquitt's peak and our worst times we still had Jamaal. TL;DR no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, oldtimer said: I'd wager that they do bring in competition IF he doesn't just retire..at least give him a chance to fight for his job for his last year Again, we just can't keep him at that high number unless we're just doing him a favor out of loyalty. No punter is worth that IMO, and definitely not with this offense or for his current production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: Again, we just can't keep him at that high number unless we're just doing him a favor out of loyalty. No punter is worth that IMO, and definitely not with this offense or for his current production. Flawed logic IMO.. a Punter is a defensive player has nothing to do with offense and in the days of our horrific Defenses he was the best player on Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt 9 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, Adamixoye said: I know this is a take people like to have, but I don't believe a punter can ever truly be the best player on a team. During Colquitt's peak and our worst times we still had Jamaal. TL;DR no I see your point... I did forget Jamaal (hard to believe!) BUT Colquitt was MONEY for numerous years. But time catches up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Flawed logic IMO.. a Punter is a defensive player has nothing to do with offense and in the days of our horrific Defenses he was the best player on Defense Punters only can affect the game when they punt. With a good offense (fewer punts), he has less chance to affect the game. I don't see how that's arguable. We're going to have, what, a top 3-5 offense for the forseeable future? That means our punter's impact will be bottom 3-5 in the league. Different than other defensive players who play all possessions. Punter might not see the field. So you just can't pay him in the top half of the league and WELL above the median for starters. Again, not flawed logic...don't see how anyone could see this differently. As for the impact of a punter on a team with a worse offense, I don't know. I'm inclined to suspect that the impact of a few net yards per punt is pretty marginal. The rest of the unit significantly impacts that as well, not just the punter. Colquitt has good numbers on getting inside the 20, but it's not like he was consistently pinning teams at the one. I could be persuaded otherwise by the proper statistical analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 A thread swerve, but what ever happened to the coffin corner punts? We see punters try to place it inside the 10 and fail a good percentage of the time. Colquit had one of those on Sunday. It would seem that punting to the corner would have little downside and there's the chance the kick goes out of bounds inside the 10 and if not, the returner is somewhat pinned against the sideline. Probably a good reason to not do it ore, but I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 You don't just let go of your punter without the replacement ready to take over and the 1.5 million is not enough cap space to actually do anything at this point. That money is only useful as the wiggle room during the season so the Chiefs can wait to see if we have a better option at hand before letting him go assuming they are contemplating such a thing. Retirement is always another story but I don't think Colquitt retires just yet unless Chiefs decide to let him go. One more year on his contract means another go at a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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