Balto 723 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Getting released......says he wants a Chip. vet looking to get SB and will take discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Would he work here? He excelled in cover 2 with Carolina. He may be looking for a vet team to win it all or a try one for a contract? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28700644/josh-norman-ready-new-fresh-redskins-release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 JMO but I think his best years are behind him and I dont think he'd come cheap enough but if he wasn't worried about the $$ and strictly into t the chance of a Ring.. I'd say work him out and see. would he fit in a Spag's scheme is what I dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 merging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldtimer said: JMO but I think his best years are behind him and I dont think he'd come cheap enough but if he wasn't worried about the $$ and strictly into t the chance of a Ring.. I'd say work him out and see. would he fit in a Spag's scheme is what I dont know Agree. We are probably more in the market for a 1 year prove it deal for a guy coming off an injury or bad season like B Breeland than a big name who's probably going to be overpaid. Draft a corner in round 1 and make a decision on Fuller who I'd keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 I agree it’s all about the price tag......Do we start to see the Brady/Pats vets coming for cheap for a ring here now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 A ring is very helpful for post-retirement jobs in the media but did Norman make enough to ignore the paycheck yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, sith13 said: A ring is very helpful for post-retirement jobs in the media but did Norman make enough to ignore the paycheck yet? In 8 years he has made 65 million. Will depend on how well he has managed It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 He is worth checking out. Too long in the tooth for more than a one year deal while we develop someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Yeah I think we got back to the well on those 1 year prove it/ship deals while we draft a cornerback. Who got hurt in preseason last year that we had hopes would develop into at least a backup. We are gonna needs bodies and I wouldn't mind bringing him in if he's chasing a ship but if he comes here for like 4-5 million wouldn't we rather have Breeland back for 4-5 million more a year? I'd rather have a known commodity that probably will play even better next year if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hargreaves got cut today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Agree. We are probably more in the market for a 1 year prove it deal for a guy coming off an injury or bad season like B Breeland than a big name who's probably going to be overpaid. Draft a corner in round 1 and make a decision on Fuller who I'd keep. But do we need to do that? I know that's the conventional wisdom... throw a first rounder at the problem. But outside of Mo Claiborne, this was our DB room, and I think we can all say it was a strength not a weakness: Juan Thornhill - 2nd round Kendall Fuller - 3rd round Tyrann Mathieu - 3rd round Bashaud Breeland - 4th round Armani Watts - 4th round Jordan Lucas - 6th round Rashad Fenton - 7th round Charvarius Ward - Undrafted Keith Reaser - Undrafted Daniel Sorenson - Undrafted FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 I wonder if it was a strength because our run D was soooo bad or if they outplayed talent/contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Balto said: I wonder if it was a strength because our run D was soooo bad or if they outplayed talent/contracts? I think Spags mostly wants smart DBs who can play multiple coverages. He was pretty good at keeping QBs on their toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Okiechief1 said: In 8 years he has made 65 million. Will depend on how well he has managed It. which means after taxes and agent commission, he probably has about 20 mill, assuming he was good at saving money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, xen said: But do we need to do that? I know that's the conventional wisdom... throw a first rounder at the problem. But outside of Mo Claiborne, this was our DB room, and I think we can all say it was a strength not a weakness: Juan Thornhill - 2nd round Kendall Fuller - 3rd round Tyrann Mathieu - 3rd round Bashaud Breeland - 4th round Armani Watts - 4th round Jordan Lucas - 6th round Rashad Fenton - 7th round Charvarius Ward - Undrafted Keith Reaser - Undrafted Daniel Sorenson - Undrafted It was okay this past season, but take out the FAs and it looks very weak. Breeland is gone in my mind and even if the Chiefs retain Fuller, they need the new guy. A CB in the first make perfect sense if they don't have to reach for one. I agree that they're okay at safety as long a Thornhill recovers in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 A guy I would look at who is only 24 is Hargreaves. Man, Reid and the vets we have on this team could turn him around. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28704134/texans-cut-veteran-cornerback-vernon-hargreaves-iii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, jetlord said: It was okay this past season, but take out the FAs and it looks very weak. Breeland is gone in my mind and even if the Chiefs retain Fuller, they need the new guy. A CB in the first make perfect sense if they don't have to reach for one. I agree that they're okay at safety as long a Thornhill recovers in time. My point was you don't necessarily have to use a first to find talent. Most of those guys are pretty good and none of them were 1st ed picks, FA or not. Always BPA in the first. Never force it to fill a perceived need. If a good corner drops great. But only make the pick if the grades are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, xen said: My point was you don't necessarily have to use a first to find talent. Most of those guys are pretty good and none of them were 1st ed picks, FA or not. Always BPA in the first. Never force it to fill a perceived need. If a good corner drops great. But only make the pick if the grades are there. I'll stick with BPA in an area of need. If the best player is a QB or Safety, pass on him and get the CB, LB, or IOL. I agree it doesn't have to be a CB in the first, just that it's a position where the Chiefs need a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, jetlord said: It was okay this past season, but take out the FAs and it looks very weak. Breeland is gone in my mind and even if the Chiefs retain Fuller, they need the new guy. A CB in the first make perfect sense if they don't have to reach for one. I agree that they're okay at safety as long a Thornhill recovers in time. It was better than ok. This team was 8th in pass defense. And just arbitrarily subtracting Breeland makes no sense either. He may love it here and be a priority for us. And why would you take out the free agents? Why not take out the trades as well? That eliminates Ward and Fuller. Hell take out the draft picks too. We have the worst secondary in the league now. Fuck. What do we do? FANATIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, jetlord said: I'll stick with BPA in an area of need. If the best player is a QB or Safety, pass on him and get the CB, LB, or IOL. I agree it doesn't have to be a CB in the first, just that it's a position where the Chiefs need a starter. Well yeah duh. Nobody drafts kickers in the first except the raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Keep Breeland. Love his run defense too. Guy is not adverse to tackling. the Warparty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 hours ago, xen said: My point was you don't necessarily have to use a first to find talent. technically we can call it a first round pick, but I see it as a high second sometimes you gotta trade up to get an important position of need like MVPat, and like SF did with Bosa... neither team is in the SB without them I see your point that one can find value in FA or lower picks... there's no doubt about that the question in my mind at least, is what is our biggest 'position of need'? IMO we need LB, secondary (CB and S), and OL I'm thinking we can use free agency for both the OL and LB corps, as well as to replace anyone we lose on the DL to FA I agree we can find value in the later rounds... especially at LB IMO CB and S are our most important needs... which should be our prime focus in the early rounds what made the Pats so great for so long, is player evaluation... how they found value in FA and in the later rounds I think Andy and Brett are up to the task... and considering we're a champion, and how many great FAs are out there who want a ring... it's gonna be a fun offseason oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, mex said: technically we can call it a first round pick, but I see it as a high second sometimes you gotta trade up to get an important position of need like MVPat, and like SF did with Bosa... neither team is in the SB without them I see your point that one can find value in FA or lower picks... there's no doubt about that the question in my mind at least, is what is our biggest 'position of need'? IMO we need LB, secondary (CB and S), and OL I'm thinking we can use free agency for both the OL and LB corps, as well as to replace anyone we lose on the DL to FA I agree we can find value in the later rounds... especially at LB IMO CB and S are our most important needs... which should be our prime focus in the early rounds what made the Pats so great for so long, is player evaluation... how they found value in FA and in the later rounds I think Andy and Brett are up to the task... and considering we're a champion, and how many great FAs are out there who want a ring... it's gonna be a fun offseason Meh we can use more talent at every position group except QB or specialists. WR, for instance, doesn't appear to be a big need but consider the contracts, that it takes a couple of years to get Andy's system down, and that we can maximize Pat's talent by keeping the skill positions loaded. When you hit the playoffs, we've seen our top guys constantly doubled. Having your 3rd, 4th or 5th best targets be guys you can rely on has been huge for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 So Breeland, Fuller and Claiborne are Free Agents. I’d consider that two starting corners we gotta figure out. id still like to see Breeland resigned and trade our 1st for Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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