oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Kansas City Chiefs Report: Chiefs opting out of OL Erving's deal Reuters•March 1, 2020 The Kansas City Chiefs will opt out of the final year of offensive lineman Cameron Erving's deal, according to Terez Paylor of Yahoo Sports. Erving, a first-round pick of the Cleveland Browns in 2015, was traded to the Chiefs in 2017 and signed a two-year extension worth $8.3 million in 2018. The reigning Super Bowl champion Chiefs will save a little over $3 million by opting out of the deal, though they still will take a $1.4 million dead-money cap hit. The 27-year-old has played in 69 games (42 starts) through five NFL seasons, seeing time at all five positions up front. He saw action in 13 games (eight starts) at tackle for the Chiefs last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 When you are responsible for at least of two of Mahomes ankle injuries and lots of sacks, you gotta go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post azchief21 5,278 Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 He was one helluva cheerleader in the playoffs and SB. He was in every celebration photo. Mloe68, qnet, West and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 He cam to the rescue in every on field scuffle. Maybe he can get a job as the enforcer on a hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 He was given every opportunity to succeed. oldtimer and West 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarcasticOne 24 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, azchief21 said: He was one helluva cheerleader in the playoffs and SB. He was in every celebration photo. I noticed that as well. If I was nothing but a backup, I would have purposefully stayed in the background. Maybe he did it to show people he actually did play for the Chiefs. If so, he didn't need to. All he had to do is show highlights of the sacks Mahomes took and he would have quickly found his image! azchief21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Was hoping a trade but makes sense sith13 and oldtimer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I seem to remember him being serviceable his first year here, am I misremembering? He was an abomination this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Aye he brought great attitude and was always the first to back up his teammates. Great guy, but talent wise, just didn't cut the mustard. cpete918 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, moons314 said: I seem to remember him being serviceable his first year here, am I misremembering? He was an abomination this past season. He had some good work at G. A few games worth anyway. Sucked at T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Finally a move to keep Mahomes upright, I'm guessing some more will follow. I wouldn't rule out multiple OL picks in the first two days after a trade down from 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,713 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 He left with a ring....Good for him. Great Cheerleader....That's all I can say.. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 21 hours ago, West said: He left with a ring....Good for him. Great Cheerleader....That's all I can say.. w Another reminder of how low the Chiefs set the bar in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Since we're discussing O-line, here's a question for the experts Is ti practical to draft a second day OT and use him at OG while he develops and gets stronger to NFL tackle standards? Just playing with some mocks and thinking how much easier it would be if the Chiefs could grab a future OT, even a backup, and use the same person to fill a guard position in the near term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, jetlord said: Since we're discussing O-line, here's a question for the experts Is ti practical to draft a second day OT and use him at OG while he develops and gets stronger to NFL tackle standards? Just playing with some mocks and thinking how much easier it would be if the Chiefs could grab a future OT, even a backup, and use the same person to fill a guard position in the near term. I am no expert but I think it’s a great idea. Morse finish his career as a LT and can here as a C. Jeff Allen was a college T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Lots of college tackles move inside in the pros. Most don't make it back outside. I guess if you find a guy talented enough, but you're wasting a year of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, xen said: Lots of college tackles move inside in the pros. Most don't make it back outside. I guess if you find a guy talented enough, but you're wasting a year of development. True, but any OT the Chiefs get now isn't going to play outside this season barring injury and even then, Rankin would probably become the swing tackle. Should the team just wait until Fisher or Schwartz are about gone to draft the next one? Can't a tackle be groomed for the future while getting stronger and playing guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, jetlord said: True, but any OT the Chiefs get now isn't going to play outside this season barring injury and even then, Rankin would probably become the swing tackle. Should the team just wait until Fisher or Schwartz are about gone to draft the next one? Can't a tackle be groomed for the future while getting stronger and playing guard? does sound logical but then I guess the practice reps on technique and the strengthening process may differ and therefore be detrimental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, xen said: Lots of college tackles move inside in the pros. Most don't make it back outside. I guess if you find a guy talented enough, but you're wasting a year of development. Very good point. There is the odd duck like Brandin Albert who was a college G that became a LT. Good tackles are pretty hard to find. I am all for drafting a T to play G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Playing OG would mean facing stronger DTs as opposed to faster DEs at OT. I think the focus would be very different to actually be a starting OG while prepping for an OT role in the future. If you ask me our future OT should simply be our swing tackle and whomever is playing at interior OL should focus on just getting better there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 We need a swing tackle and if we can draft a starting guard who can has versatility to do both, it’s ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 15 hours ago, jetlord said: True, but any OT the Chiefs get now isn't going to play outside this season barring injury and even then, Rankin would probably become the swing tackle. Should the team just wait until Fisher or Schwartz are about gone to draft the next one? Can't a tackle be groomed for the future while getting stronger and playing guard? Yeah sure if you're a few years away from moving them but the techniques are different, and in this discussion at least, we're talking about cutting Fisher next year. So now they've spent their first year not working at tackle. Add to that you still don't know how they'd look on the outside when you get to the next offseason, so do you need to draft another tackle the next year or not? You may have no idea because they don't even have practice reps to review. Not that it can't be done. Anything is an upgrade over our last swing tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 hours ago, xen said: Yeah sure if you're a few years away from moving them but the techniques are different, and in this discussion at least, we're talking about cutting Fisher next year. So now they've spent their first year not working at tackle. Add to that you still don't know how they'd look on the outside when you get to the next offseason, so do you need to draft another tackle the next year or not? You may have no idea because they don't even have practice reps to review. Not that it can't be done. Anything is an upgrade over our last swing tackle. Don't disagree, but do you mean the Chiefs should not draft a future OT until he has a playing role? Except for a few first rounders, most take a year or two to mature and get stronger as well as learn technique. With Fisher and Schwartz here for two more years, the new guy isn't going to play unless there's an injury. So when do the Chiefs draft their OTOTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 7 hours ago, xen said: Yeah sure if you're a few years away from moving them but the techniques are different, and in this discussion at least, we're talking about cutting Fisher next year. So now they've spent their first year not working at tackle. Add to that you still don't know how they'd look on the outside when you get to the next offseason, so do you need to draft another tackle the next year or not? You may have no idea because they don't even have practice reps to review. Not that it can't be done. Anything is an upgrade over our last swing tackle. That's a good counterpoint to the argument that drafting a guard early who projects well at tackle long term, may be the writing on the wall for Fisher. Personally I think Fisher is a solid player. I just think the way his contract is structured leaves the Chiefs in an actionable position. Then again, we are set to be in better shape under the cap in 2021 than we are in 2020 and the cap has potential to explode, so maybe they will just let him play out his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Thought this was interesting First round we have one of 2 players in top 21 picks, Long retired and Eifert has yet to sign. Trufant still with Atlanta but Eifert may not be with Cincy. Out all picks 6 are currently left with the team that drafted them. Fisher, Johnson, Rhodes, Hopkins, Trufant and Frederick. Maybe 7 if Eifert stays put. What a shitty draft to have the 1st overall pick but at least he is not a bust ala Joeckel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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