Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 6 hours ago, kccrow said: I mean, sans Fullback, Punter, Kicker, or Long Snapper... If you wouldn't use a 1 on those 4 positions, why would you use one on a RB? I think the fact that you are lumping these positions into one category as if they all have the same level of importance might make a better argument than I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 21 hours ago, Biggjliv4 said: Personally, outside of drafting a QB, I'm good with any position at any pick, even RB. If it's their highest rated player, do be it, eventually every position we have comes up for a fat new contract at some point. Keep the best talent coming across the board. Exactly. I mean how could you seriously be upset if the Chiefs added DeAndre Swift or Jonathan Taylor to this offense? Imagine screaming at the TV "Veach you fucking idiot! Why would you add the best player in the draft at RB to our roster??? We will never win a SB building a team this way, you fucking moron! Err....wait...We will never win ANOTHER SB this way!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said: Exactly. I mean how could you seriously be upset if the Chiefs added DeAndre Swift or Jonathan Taylor to this offense? Imagine screaming at the TV "Veach you fucking idiot! Why would you add the best player in the draft at RB to our roster??? We will never win a SB building a team this way, you fucking moron! Err....wait...We will never win ANOTHER SB this way!!!" That's making the point. The Chiefs won a SB and have been one of the best teams in the Reid era without once drafting a RB above #3 IIRC. Best player? Maybe at their position, but not at a critical position. The Chiefs can draft Helaire, Akers, or one of several others in the third if they want to add to the RB room, but a stronger IOL will do as much for the run game as adding a higher ranked prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, jetlord said: That's making the point. The Chiefs won a SB and have been one of the best teams in the Reid era without once drafting a RB above #3 IIRC. Best player? Maybe at their position, but not at a critical position. The Chiefs can draft Helaire, Akers, or one of several others in the third if they want to add to the RB room, but a stronger IOL will do as much for the run game as adding a higher ranked prospect. Add a Ruiz and you add not only protection for Mahomes but also get better in the run game. 2 for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Add a Ruiz and you add not only protection for Mahomes but also get better in the run game. 2 for 1. Agree. First round seems high for an IOL, but it's nearly a high second and he could be a long term solution at OG or OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: Add a Ruiz and you add not only protection for Mahomes but also get better in the run game. 2 for 1. I'm down with Ruiz round 1. But Akers and Helaire will be long gone by round 3 and it wouldn't surprise me it both were gone by #63. I'm fine with the Chiefs not drafting a RB that high. Honestly I'm OK with them not drafting one at all. I think Washington can be an absolute beast in our offense. But if the guys who built our SB roster think the best way to get more rings is by going RB round 1, what is gonna be my argument against it? That they don't know what they are doing? The last game they oversaw we hoisted a Lombardi afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Probably moot arguement fellas. Andy has never drafted a RB in the first round. Like ever. Fwiw, also never drafted an off ball linebacker in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, xen said: Probably moot arguement fellas. Andy has never drafted a RB in the first round. Like ever. Fwiw, also never drafted an off ball linebacker in the first. What was it he said back in the day? Give me a QB, 2 good offensive tackles, 2 pass rushers, and 2 corners and I'll figure the rest out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: What was it he said back in the day? Give me a QB, 2 good offensive tackles, 2 pass rushers, and 2 corners and I'll figure the rest out... Yep. Over 60% of Andy's top 100 overall picks have been DB's, dline and WR. All top 100 overall draft picks with Andy as a head coach (64 total): 30% Dline or primary pass rushing LB 19% DB's 13% WR 11% OL 9% LB 9% RB 6% QB 3% TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, xen said: Yep. Over 60% of Andy's top 100 overall picks have been DB's, dline and WR. All top 100 overall draft picks with Andy as a head coach (64 total): 30% Dline or primary pass rushing LB 19% DB's 13% WR 11% OL 9% LB 9% RB 6% QB 3% TE Interesting because I thought Andy didn’t care about defense. I’d quote myself on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Btw there are rushers that absolutely fit our offense pretty deep into this draft. All of these guys below are day 3 or late day 2 and all fit our offense extremely well. For those that want to look them up I would remind you that Kareem Hunt ran a 4.62 and didn't test overly well. The tape tells the real story on RBs. Please also remember Veach loves big RBs that can catch. Antonio Gibson - imo, RB or WR or both, Andy would turn him into a star. Eno Benjamin Anthony McFarland Joshua Kelley Zach Moss Michael Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, xen said: Btw there are rushers that absolutely fit our offense pretty deep into this draft. All of these guys below are day 3 or late day 2 and all fit our offense extremely well. For those that want to look them up I would remind you that Kareem Hunt ran a 4.62 and didn't test overly well. The tape tells the real story on RBs. Please also remember Veach loves big RBs that can catch. Antonio Gibson - imo, RB or WR or both, Andy would turn him into a star. Eno Benjamin Anthony McFarland Joshua Kelley Zach Moss Michael Warren Zach moss please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Calichief said: Zach moss please. McFarland by far. When he weighed in at 208 and still ran ran the 4.44 it made me happy. Nice to see he can carry that extra 10-12 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Calichief said: Zach moss please. What can Moss do that Damian can't already do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, jetlord said: What can Moss do that Damian can't already do? Just for the future. Later round pick as noted by Xen. Also, probably won’t gave williams next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrow 529 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Don't know if you guys have watched Xavier Jones out of SMU, but take a peek at that kid. Could be a late or UDFA steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, jetlord said: What can Moss do that Damian can't already do? Smash people's faces in. Calichief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,218 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, kccrow said: Don't know if you guys have watched Xavier Jones out of SMU, but take a peek at that kid. Could be a late or UDFA steal. Yeah explosive kid. I wonder with the small school and no official testing if we can get him as a UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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