CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Also to be positive for the board i like what the chiefs did in rounds 1 and 2 based on fixing what cost us games last year. only time our offense stalled is when we didn’t have a legit play making threat at rb available and only time our defense was exposed was the rb coming out of the backfield gashing us in the passing game(see the gb game) clyde plus d williams plus raiders back fixes our rb issues and willie gay fixes our coverage lb issues on the rb out of the backfield. Won’t have to watch Hitchens try to cover backs with 4.4 speed anymore. That’s not hitchens fault he should’ve never been asked to do that. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I read a article somewhere that mentioned a nfl executive stated in order to build a good defence ( 4-3/3-4) u need to have a stud at each level. D line LB and DB. You then fill in around that. With the gay addition if he turns out we have this with jones badger and gay. Time will tell but I’m not going to doubt veach and his ability to see talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, CranjisMcbasketball said: Also to be positive for the board i like what the chiefs did in rounds 1 and 2 based on fixing what cost us games last year. only time our offense stalled is when we didn’t have a legit play making threat at rb available and only time our defense was exposed was the rb coming out of the backfield gashing us in the passing game(see the gb game) clyde plus d williams plus raiders back fixes our rb issues and willie gay fixes our coverage lb issues on the rb out of the backfield. Won’t have to watch Hitchens try to cover backs with 4.4 speed anymore. That’s not hitchens fault he should’ve never been asked to do that. So maybe Hitchens can now play in the role he fits better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: So maybe Hitchens can now play in the role he fits better? Hopefully, that would be mlb in base package. Problem is they are in sub package a majority of the time. Tough pill to swallow paying his salary if we limit his playing time so I wouldn’t rule out a post june cut for hitchens and allocate his money to add a veteran cb like logan ryan or simply use the money to help pay chris jones AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 10 hours ago, ChiefThunder said: Niang is "steal" material like Gay... both went lower than they should have because of issues... issues that Andy knows about, and can work with ChiefThunder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Im also willing to admit to being wrong on niang if he is able to play guard this year, or even lt and kick fisher into guard. I don’t know much about this player yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Throwing it out there....Any steals still out there you think would be a good fit for the Chiefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Calichief said: this makes me smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Isnt Niang a bit tall to be playing guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, xen said: I seem to remember we won a superbowl while dumpster diving for corners. This. We didn't do so great in 2018, but we did fantastic in 2019 cobbling together a decent CB unit from castoffs like Ward, Breeland, Fenton, Claiborne, etc. The guy we had the most invested in was Fuller, and in the end he wasn't even playing corner and he was expendable. I don't know how sustainable it is but I'd rather take these high-upside guys that could really improve us in other areas of need (Gay) or keep our offensive engine going (CEH, Niang) than take a meh CB just because we think it's a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Isnt Niang a bit tall to be playing guard? I wondered the same thing in a post before. We did try signing Peat who is the same size. Gallery was taller and excelled as G. Banner is taller and is a guard. So it can be done, just have to see how he adjust to it. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, dhitter said: Throwing it out there....Any steals still out there you think would be a good fit for the Chiefs? Bryce Hall? If he could get over the injury thing, he'd be starter quality. Apparently teams know something about his physical that the "experts" didn't. Muti? Same as Hall. If healthy, he'd be the second or third IOL but no one seems to want to take the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 50 minutes ago, oldtimer said: interesting takes. I went straight to bed after the Naing pick. To be truthful I am more surprised people are not a bit concerned about Gay. I mean any guy who will punch out his Qb at the get go is a concern ..IMO. He does that to MVPat and he'll get killed ..literally. so far I'm not mad at the draft and have areal feeling the chiefs thought someone would pony up on CJ and that kinda threw a wrench in the perfect draft plan OT, remember these guys are kids. I think we , including me, are quick to judge. Half of this stuff happens when these guys are teens. Food for thought. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 With the need for a swing tackle I doubt they move Niang out of position. Keep him at OT and let's see if he can evolve into a starter. We don't have enough picks but there are still some decent interior linemen available. Definitely should have cut LDT and kept Wiz for whatever he got from Steelers. I'm guessing we'll be on the market for some June 1 cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Calichief said: OT, remember these guys are kids. I think we , including me, are quick to judge. Half of this stuff happens when these guys are teens. Food for thought. yea I gotcha but there are those to wayy over react much like in the TH prt 2 episode so I just expected more of that stuff..not that I am overly concerned but it is a flag but as usual I am sure the Chiefs did their homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, sith13 said: With the need for a swing tackle I doubt they move Niang out of position. Keep him at OT and let's see if he can evolve into a starter. We don't have enough picks but there are still some decent interior linemen available. Definitely should have cut LDT and kept Wiz for whatever he got from Steelers. I'm guessing we'll be on the market for some June 1 cuts. Wiz was picked up off waivers and was a starter late season by default. Wylie was hurt and he grabbed the opportunity. I don't think he was that special and he may have wanted to go back to Pitts. In reality Fuller and Wiz were not really starters. Fuller played as a package and was there because Thornhill was out. I think Rankin and Wylie and Remmers are options. The guy that wins is probably better than Wiz. Plus Remmers is a swing tackle option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, kkuenn said: They have picked some in the draft and they just did not work out. Will keep it to rounds 1-4 selections. Peters R1 and Nelson R3 in 2015. 2016 they went Russell R3 and Murray R4. 2017 R4 was the highest CB pick in Tremon Smith. 2018 we trades Alex Smith and part of the comp back was Fuller. No CB picked other than 6th round. 2019 no pick R1-4. Only CB was Fenton in R6. So while we have uaed our high 1st or 2nd round picks in trades during this time for Mahomes and Clark we still did try for CBs either drafted or part of a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 49ers trade for Trent Williams giving up a 3rd and a 5th. Hopefully this will shut Balto up with his asinine trade scenarios in which Eric Fisher is worth a 1st rounder. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Dang 49ers just got better...traded for Trent Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Iluvhouse24 said: 49ers trade for Trent Williams giving up a 3rd and a 5th. Hopefully this will shut Balto up with his asinine trade scenarios in which Eric Fisher is worth a 1st rounder. It’s just that...a scenario. I think I was spot on with the baggage of Williams not having a ton of trade value and it COULD of be a great value trade for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said: 49ers trade for Trent Williams giving up a 3rd and a 5th. Hopefully this will shut Balto up with his asinine trade scenarios in which Eric Fisher is worth a 1st rounder. wanna bet? lol sith13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Balto said: Dang 49ers just got better...traded for Trent Williams Meh, williams for staley won’t make much difference. Hard to improve their run game much more than it already was and garopollo is still going to miss wide open receivers no matter who the tackle is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Anyone just see the Raiders draft board? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Wiz was picked up off waivers and was a starter late season by default. Wylie was hurt and he grabbed the opportunity. I don't think he was that special and he may have wanted to go back to Pitts. In reality Fuller and Wiz were not really starters. Fuller played as a package and was there because Thornhill was out. I think Rankin and Wylie and Remmers are options. The guy that wins is probably better than Wiz. Plus Remmers is a swing tackle option. Wiz has a history of decent play and showed it in the playoffs. Definitely would have been helpful to have a better OG than what we have on the roster for that cheap. Wylie showed promise on the right side but definitely not working out at LG, don't know how the rest will turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: I wondered the same thing in a post before. We did try signing Peat who is the same size. Gallery was taller and excelled as G. Banner is taller and is a guard. So it can be done, just have to see how he adjust to it. And only 1"taller than Quenton Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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