kkuenn 3,599 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Veach wins again. Garrett signing an extension with Browns that pays him 5 more years at 125 million making him the highest paid non QB in the league at 25 mil per year in average https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29461044/sources-browns-closing-5-year-125m-deal-myles-garrett oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, West said: Agree, he will have a chance to show us what he can do.... The big winner in this is Okafor.....he is going to get much less attention. w Don't forget TACO!!!! DefensiveMan and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Wow. I am shocked. I didn’t think they would, but I am happy to have him around. He is a baller. Got to good for the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, kkuenn said: But will he run away from tackling a player then later in his rookie deal line up off sides to cost us a trip to the SB type of farts? I'm thinking more about missed assignments and reads. I think he'll run towards tackles and I think he'll remember from Pop Warner which side of the ball to line up on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just saw this on Instagram, and couldn't believe it. I don't know how they did it, and don't care. Mahomes deal certainly had to help. The Chiefs aren't messing around. Like Watkins, I know some of you got frustrated with Chris Jones, but they always come up very big, at the right time during games. West and oldtimer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 now we have to hope the draft picks pan out because that is going to be the real issue moving forward. With so much cap space tied up in players like Mahomes, Jones, Clark, Mathieu etc they are going to have to rely on draft picks to supplement the team moving forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: now we have to hope the draft picks pan out because that is going to be the real issue moving forward. With so much cap space tied up in players like Mahomes, Jones, Clark, Mathieu etc they are going to have to rely on draft picks to supplement the team moving forward They will get a boost from vets who will sign for a one year deal to get a shot at a ring, but agree, the Chiefs have to draft to replace guys who will be released rather than getting long term deals. Watkins, Robinson, LDT, Hichens, Sorenson, and Damien Wilson won't be around in 2022. oldtimer and West 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, jetlord said: They will get a boost from vets who will sign for a one year deal to get a shot at a ring, but agree, the Chiefs have to draft to replace guys who will be released rather than getting long term deals. Watkins, Robinson, LDT, Hichens, Sorenson, and Damien Wilson won't be around in 2022. Not to big of losses there either really and think of all the money freed up not resigning them. Watkins should be replaced by Hardman or draft pick. Draft another LB, WR, CB after seeing what we do this year. TE is getting a need here soon too. Overall if Niang works out and one of our younger OL at guard we will be fine on offense for a while. Gay and some of our young CBs do well and we may not be needing much other than hitting on our high picks and good depth/development players. I do expect a few try one deals in here trying for a ring too. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Yup Watkins and his $17M needs to go after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Balto said: Yup Watkins and his $17M needs to go after this year. I think CEH will add something we've missed since Kareem and will soften that blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I think no signing bonus is huge and isn't being talk about more. With no signing bonus his contract really doesn't HURT us latter on. I'm a big fan of this contract when it comes to NO signing bonus to get more guaranteed money. Year Age Base Salary Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $80,000,000 $37,626,000 $80,000,000 2020 26 $16,126,000 $16,126,000 $16,126,000 7.3% $37,626,000 ($21,500,000) 2021 27 $21,500,000 $21,500,000 $21,500,000 10.0% $21,500,000 $0 2022 28 $22,374,000 $0 $22,374,000 9.8% $0 $22,374,000 2023 29 $20,000,000 $0 $20,000,000 8.3% $0 $20,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Balto said: I think no signing bonus is huge and isn't being talk about more. With no signing bonus his contract really doesn't HURT us latter on. I'm a big fan of this contract when it comes to NO signing bonus to get more guaranteed money. Year Age Base Salary Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension Total $80,000,000 $37,626,000 $80,000,000 2020 26 $16,126,000 $16,126,000 $16,126,000 7.3% $37,626,000 ($21,500,000) 2021 27 $21,500,000 $21,500,000 $21,500,000 10.0% $21,500,000 $0 2022 28 $22,374,000 $0 $22,374,000 9.8% $0 $22,374,000 2023 29 $20,000,000 $0 $20,000,000 8.3% $0 $20,000,000 Yep. Veach signed Mahomes and CJ for a total of 10m signing bonus and a cap raise this year of a few hundred thousand. Remarkable. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Basically Jones took the Guaranteed Salary of $37 million without any Signing Bonus and the team can cut him after 2 years, not take a Cap Hit and actually save money. guaranteeing the 2 years in exchange for no SB pro rated over the term of the contract also allows him to get another bite of the apple before he is 30. Team gives up cash up front, player gives up years on contract. This is how things will be done from now on- until the CBA is rewritten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 The Chiefs will look very smart IF the TV contract causes the cap to rise significantly in the next three years.. They have a couple of years to extend Kelce, the OTs, and HB if they want to keep the team in tact. If they hit a couple of home runs in the draft, they can replace the tackles, Hitchens, Watkins, etc. while keeping a base of seven or eight highly paid key players. It all depends on the drafts with a few one year vet deals thrown in. The days of huge FA signings are over for now. If the Chiefs can snag a few third round picks in exchange for losing a few starters, they could pull off the dynasty thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 20 hours ago, xen said: Yep. Veach signed Mahomes and CJ for a total of 10m signing bonus and a cap raise this year of a few hundred thousand. Remarkable. I think players are fine with the lack of a signing bonus as long as they get some guarantees. Makes a lot of sense in the current environment as it allows the club to keep some cash in the pocket without knowing what the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 We've officially signed the CEO of Sack Nation @StoneColdJones to an extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, xen said: I don't think Jones left much of the table. Maybe some signing bonus money, but he'll get his $60 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, jetlord said: I don't think Jones left much of the table. Maybe some signing bonus money, but he'll get his $60 million. By year 3 and befire Mahomes deal really hits in I think it is set up for a cut of year 4 for Jones. That or rework it type deal. Next few years we have also other FAs upcoming so we will have choices. Thing is the cap will go up too. I think it is set up to greatly help us. We draft well and we can replace some of those higher to retain upcoming FAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, jetlord said: I don't think Jones left much of the table. Maybe some signing bonus money, but he'll get his $60 million. I think Pat said he left some on the table, implying that there was enough left to get a deal with Chris done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, jetlord said: I don't think Jones left much of the table. Maybe some signing bonus money, but he'll get his $60 million. Reading is FUNdamental. 3 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: I think Pat said he left some on the table, implying that there was enough left to get a deal with Chris done. Correct. I posted that to show Pat was showing leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Great to see Mahomes working with Veach and Reid on roster selection. He wanted Clyde, and now wanted Jones. Never seen a QB be so involved in office decisions. Great teamwork and leadership by the Chiefs and Mahomez oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 9:24 PM, jetlord said: I don't think Jones left much of the table. Maybe some signing bonus money, but he'll get his $60 million. I think Mahomes is saying he left something on the table so Jones could get some in the short term. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, sith13 said: I think Mahomes is saying he left something on the table so Jones could get some in the short term. Understand that. After the Super Bowl there was much talk that Mahomes would command $40 million and he signed for more than that. Doesn't seem like much left on the table but I suppose it's all in the way it's structured. Jones signed a very good deal for him. All that is missing is the signing bonus but he'll get paid well for at least three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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