The Hall of Shame

[Thegoatee 1,780]

I was okay with the hire of Reid, but I wasn’t excited. His personnel management and clock management was pretty terrible as it went on in Philly. Alex Smith at QB is what got me angry with Reid probably more than anything. Glad they saw they needed to get someone potentially elite. Watching Alex play not to lose, with bad shoulder shimmy fakes and dump offs, running for one yard on 3rd and long, panicking into a sack, almost killed my love of football. I have nothing bad to say about Alex Smith the person, but the way he played football was so frustrating. It is a miracle Reid got as much as he did out of Alex and a credit to how good a coach he can be.

[KCSLC2008 605]

On 9/19/2020 at 7:15 AM, dhitter said:

Wow! Not only was his conclusion wrong...his whole analysis of why is off kilter. Classic case of someone who can sound smart but is so enamored with his own words he can't see how stupid he really is.

And until the comeback, he was probably thinking he was a genius. If instead of the comeback they recovered a muffed punt and maybe a runningback fumble, he’d have patted himself on the back.

[Adamixoye 604]

I was really ready to give up on Reid with the losing streak in 2015 (before the winning streak and playoff win) and then again with the mid-season swoon in 2017.  But after the end of 2017 I knew we were going to rise or fall with Patrick, not Andy.

[NCChief 46]

On 9/19/2020 at 9:15 AM, dhitter said:

Wow! Not only was his conclusion wrong...his whole analysis of why is off kilter. Classic case of someone who can sound smart but is so enamored with his own words he can't see how stupid he really is.

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[reesebobby 5,661]

Grading the Frank Clark trade: The Seahawks fleeced the Chiefs

Steven Ruiz 

 

April 23, 2019 3:51 pm

The Chiefs are jumping on the trend started by the Rams and Bears. Those teams recognized the benefit of having a solid starting quarterback on a rookie deal and looked to capitalize on that window by using the money saved at the QB position to spend big on stars at other positions.

Kansas City appears to be taking the same approach after it swung a deal for Seahawks DE Frank Clark, which cost the Chiefs first- and second-round picks and a five-year, $105.5 million contract, including $63.5 million guaranteed, to lock him up long term.

Now, there are worse ways to spend cap space, but this deal didn’t happen in a vacuum. The reason Kansas City was in need of a pass rusher in the first place was its decisions to trade pending free agent Dee Ford to San Francisco for a second-round pick and let the aging-but-still-productive Justin Houston go to Indianapolis for a modest deal. In all, Ford and Houston signed for seven years, $110 million, including $51.8 million in guaranteed money, with their new teams. That’s two ultra-productive players for, essentially, the price of Clark.

Now, you might be thinking that the Chiefs defense was awful last year and the biggest culprit in all of their losses, and you’d be correct. But that had little to do with Houston and Ford, who combined for 125 QB pressures. No other teammates combined for more. Clark managed an impressive 64 on his own, which is 16 more than Houston tallied but 13 fewer than Ford’s total. Pro Football Focus graded Ford as the best pass rusher in 2018. Houston ranked fifth. Clark ranked outside the top-20.

(This is all without taking into account Clark’s troubling history with domestic violence, or the time he tweeted to a female reporter that she wouldn’t last long in the business and would end up cleaning his fish tank.)

So, essentially, Kansas City gave up a first-round pick and about $12 million in guaranteed money for a player who isn’t any better than either of the TWO players he’s being asked to replace on his own. The Chiefs’ pass rush, which was the only above average facet of the defense, is somehow worse off than it was before the offseason began.

Kansas City’s defensive problems stemmed from an ineffective secondary that could not hold in coverage, and it’s going to take more than an effective rush to change that. Advanced stats suggest that in the relationship between pass rush and coverage, the latter plays a bigger role.

[West 6,713]

Thank God for Frank Clark....

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[xen 1,010,220]

2 hours ago, reesebobby said:

Grading the Frank Clark trade: The Seahawks fleeced the Chiefs

Steven Ruiz 

 

April 23, 2019 3:51 pm

The Chiefs are jumping on the trend started by the Rams and Bears. Those teams recognized the benefit of having a solid starting quarterback on a rookie deal and looked to capitalize on that window by using the money saved at the QB position to spend big on stars at other positions.

Kansas City appears to be taking the same approach after it swung a deal for Seahawks DE Frank Clark, which cost the Chiefs first- and second-round picks and a five-year, $105.5 million contract, including $63.5 million guaranteed, to lock him up long term.

Now, there are worse ways to spend cap space, but this deal didn’t happen in a vacuum. The reason Kansas City was in need of a pass rusher in the first place was its decisions to trade pending free agent Dee Ford to San Francisco for a second-round pick and let the aging-but-still-productive Justin Houston go to Indianapolis for a modest deal. In all, Ford and Houston signed for seven years, $110 million, including $51.8 million in guaranteed money, with their new teams. That’s two ultra-productive players for, essentially, the price of Clark.

Now, you might be thinking that the Chiefs defense was awful last year and the biggest culprit in all of their losses, and you’d be correct. But that had little to do with Houston and Ford, who combined for 125 QB pressures. No other teammates combined for more. Clark managed an impressive 64 on his own, which is 16 more than Houston tallied but 13 fewer than Ford’s total. Pro Football Focus graded Ford as the best pass rusher in 2018. Houston ranked fifth. Clark ranked outside the top-20.

(This is all without taking into account Clark’s troubling history with domestic violence, or the time he tweeted to a female reporter that she wouldn’t last long in the business and would end up cleaning his fish tank.)

So, essentially, Kansas City gave up a first-round pick and about $12 million in guaranteed money for a player who isn’t any better than either of the TWO players he’s being asked to replace on his own. The Chiefs’ pass rush, which was the only above average facet of the defense, is somehow worse off than it was before the offseason began.

Kansas City’s defensive problems stemmed from an ineffective secondary that could not hold in coverage, and it’s going to take more than an effective rush to change that. Advanced stats suggest that in the relationship between pass rush and coverage, the latter plays a bigger role.

oops

[Balto 723]

Letting Poe walk?

[sith13 1,746]

7 hours ago, Balto said:

Letting Poe walk?

Not sure if there were any reports/columns about that being a bad idea.