Osemele is Done!

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Kansas City Chiefs starting left guard Kelechi Osemele suffered torn tendons in both knees Sunday, coach Andy Reid said after his team's 40-32 loss to the Las Vegas Raiders.

Osemele was injured in the first quarter and was replaced by veteran Mike Remmers, who started a game two weeks ago at right guard after an illness to Andrew Wylie.

Osemele was injured without being hit. He stumbled on the turf after trying to block on a Patrick Mahomes scramble. He was taken off the field on a cart.

[Palangi 788]

It's time to see what we have in Allegretti at center.  

[Palangi 788]

If we can get center figured out we could be good up front next year.  

Trade Fisher for picks

 

LT- Niang

LG- Osemele

 C- Allegretti

RG- Rankins

RT- Schwartz

[kkuenn 3,598]

Just now, Palangi said:

If we can get center figured out we could be good up front next year.  

Trade Fisher for picks

 

LT- Niang

LG- Osemele

 C- Allegretti

RG- Rankins

RT- Schwartz

I bet Osemele retires

[Lamardirts 2,114]

Schwartz is done too.  Im betting Niang will man RT and we will trade Fisher.   Draft at least two Oline man and sign another.  

[Palangi 788]

1 hour ago, kkuenn said:

I bet Osemele retires

Why

[Palangi 788]

Schwartz is fine he just had to pay next to Wylie.  That's not good for anyone

[Balto 723]

1 hour ago, Palangi said:

If we can get center figured out we could be good up front next year.  

Trade Fisher for picks

 

LT- Niang

LG- Osemele

 C- Allegretti

RG- Rankins

RT- Schwartz

Man I’d love to have a top 5 center.  Not sure Allegretti is it but I’m ok with seeing

[kkuenn 3,598]

22 minutes ago, Palangi said:

Why

Torn ligs in both knees. Injury last year. He will be 33 or 34 and being big just might not be healthy for his knees. 

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

4 hours ago, Palangi said:

Why

Why would you just pencil him into the starting lineup next year? He's a free agent anyway, I'd aim for more of a long term solution. 

 

[sith13 1,746]

Both knees are gone for a while and he'll be 32 by next season. I would be surprised if he returns to pro football. 

[kkuenn 3,598]

Watkins also has a torn hamstring. No idea how bad but he will miss time.

Chiefs HC Andy Reid on potential replacements for Kelechi Osemele, Sammy Watkins

 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

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The Kansas City Chiefs have two players who suffered injuries Sunday afternoon who are expected to miss time.

Starting LG Kelechi Osemele is certain to be missing time after suffering tendon tears in both of his knees. His season is likely over and he has a long road to recovery.

As for WR Sammy Watkins, things are a bit more up in the air. Andy Reid said he “tore his hamstring” following the Week 5 game against the Las Vegas Raiders. It’s not yet clear the severity of his tear as he’ll be evaluated later today. It is possible that this is a minor tear, which wouldn’t keep him out for a long time or require surgery.

“Sammy’s a good player,” Chiefs HC Andy Reid said on Monday. “We’ll see how he does here. The guys are just coming in now. We’ll see how it looks, but if Sammy can’t play, we’ve done that throughout last year for a few games and the year before that. So we put the next man up and go. I’m not going to take away from how good of a player he is. He’s a terrific player, but we also have some other guys who can play too.”

The offense tends to play better with Watkins on the field. They’ve averaged more points per game and total yards per game over the past two seasons when he’s in the game.

“He plays a little bit of the low post for you,” Reid continued. “He does a good job with that. He’s strong. But again, we can work around that and we’ve got other guys who can step in and fill those types of roles.”

One of those guys is second-year WR Mecole Hardman. There were some lofty expectations for Hardman to start the 2020 season and he hasn’t quite met them. Through five games, Hardman has just 13 receptions on 17 targets for 194 yards and two touchdowns.

“Mecole (Hardman) just needs to keep growing and keep working,” Reid said of the second-year wideout. “He got a few reps yesterday and so that’s a step forward for him. We’ll see how he does as we go forward here.”

Shifting back to the Osemele injury, one player that has been somewhat forgotten is Martinas Rankin. Rankin is currently on the PUP list after suffering a knee injury in 2019. During the 2019 season, he started five games at left guard for the Chiefs and played very well. Rankin is eligible to return from the PUP list beginning in Week 7, but it doesn’t sound like he’ll be making an immediate return.

“Yeah, so Rank (Martinas Rankin) has done a good job of working to get back,” Reid said. “He’s not quite there yet but he’s working at it.”

They’ll likely ease Rankin back into the swing of things when he does begin practicing. Another option brought up to Reid was second-year OL Nick Allegretti, but it doesn’t seem he’ll be getting an opportunity to start just yet.

“(Nick) Allegretti, he’s been in kind of that swing position,” Reid said. “Kind of covering the bases at both the guard and at center. He’ll still be in that position. (Mike) Remmers would be the one that steps in right now.”

Reid did note that Allegretti would play that swing guard position with Remmers being inserted into the starting lineup. The Chiefs don’t intend to go away from Remmers after he filled in during Week 5. He’s your new starter at that spot for the time being until something changes.

Right now, the Chiefs feel like they have the depth and options to overcome these injuries, short term and long term. They’ll stick with the “Next Man Up” mentality so long as it remains sustainable to do so.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/12/kansas-city-chiefs-andy-reid-talks-injured-player-replacements-martinas-rankin-mike-remmers-mecole-hardman/

[Biggjliv4 1,292]

Too bad Niang pussed out this season. 

[sith13 1,746]

Definitely could have used Niang this year, he missed some prime opportunity. 

[Palangi 788]

1 hour ago, kkuenn said:

Watkins also has a torn hamstring. No idea how bad but he will miss time.

Chiefs HC Andy Reid on potential replacements for Kelechi Osemele, Sammy Watkins

 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

Charles Goldman 

 

34 seconds ago

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The Kansas City Chiefs have two players who suffered injuries Sunday afternoon who are expected to miss time.

Starting LG Kelechi Osemele is certain to be missing time after suffering tendon tears in both of his knees. His season is likely over and he has a long road to recovery.

As for WR Sammy Watkins, things are a bit more up in the air. Andy Reid said he “tore his hamstring” following the Week 5 game against the Las Vegas Raiders. It’s not yet clear the severity of his tear as he’ll be evaluated later today. It is possible that this is a minor tear, which wouldn’t keep him out for a long time or require surgery.

“Sammy’s a good player,” Chiefs HC Andy Reid said on Monday. “We’ll see how he does here. The guys are just coming in now. We’ll see how it looks, but if Sammy can’t play, we’ve done that throughout last year for a few games and the year before that. So we put the next man up and go. I’m not going to take away from how good of a player he is. He’s a terrific player, but we also have some other guys who can play too.”

The offense tends to play better with Watkins on the field. They’ve averaged more points per game and total yards per game over the past two seasons when he’s in the game.

“He plays a little bit of the low post for you,” Reid continued. “He does a good job with that. He’s strong. But again, we can work around that and we’ve got other guys who can step in and fill those types of roles.”

One of those guys is second-year WR Mecole Hardman. There were some lofty expectations for Hardman to start the 2020 season and he hasn’t quite met them. Through five games, Hardman has just 13 receptions on 17 targets for 194 yards and two touchdowns.

“Mecole (Hardman) just needs to keep growing and keep working,” Reid said of the second-year wideout. “He got a few reps yesterday and so that’s a step forward for him. We’ll see how he does as we go forward here.”

Shifting back to the Osemele injury, one player that has been somewhat forgotten is Martinas Rankin. Rankin is currently on the PUP list after suffering a knee injury in 2019. During the 2019 season, he started five games at left guard for the Chiefs and played very well. Rankin is eligible to return from the PUP list beginning in Week 7, but it doesn’t sound like he’ll be making an immediate return.

“Yeah, so Rank (Martinas Rankin) has done a good job of working to get back,” Reid said. “He’s not quite there yet but he’s working at it.”

They’ll likely ease Rankin back into the swing of things when he does begin practicing. Another option brought up to Reid was second-year OL Nick Allegretti, but it doesn’t seem he’ll be getting an opportunity to start just yet.

“(Nick) Allegretti, he’s been in kind of that swing position,” Reid said. “Kind of covering the bases at both the guard and at center. He’ll still be in that position. (Mike) Remmers would be the one that steps in right now.”

Reid did note that Allegretti would play that swing guard position with Remmers being inserted into the starting lineup. The Chiefs don’t intend to go away from Remmers after he filled in during Week 5. He’s your new starter at that spot for the time being until something changes.

Right now, the Chiefs feel like they have the depth and options to overcome these injuries, short term and long term. They’ll stick with the “Next Man Up” mentality so long as it remains sustainable to do so.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/12/kansas-city-chiefs-andy-reid-talks-injured-player-replacements-martinas-rankin-mike-remmers-mecole-hardman/

It's too bad nobody asked the question that needs to be asked... or the follow up to Allegretti.  Why not insert him for Reiter who has struggled this year? 

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1 hour ago, Palangi said:

It's too bad nobody asked the question that needs to be asked... or the follow up to Allegretti.  Why not insert him for Reiter who has struggled this year? 

Or Kilgore for that matter.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

4 hours ago, kkuenn said:

Watkins also has a torn hamstring. No idea how bad but he will miss time.

Chiefs HC Andy Reid on potential replacements for Kelechi Osemele, Sammy Watkins

 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

Charles Goldman 

 

34 seconds ago

ADVERTISEMENT

The Kansas City Chiefs have two players who suffered injuries Sunday afternoon who are expected to miss time.

Starting LG Kelechi Osemele is certain to be missing time after suffering tendon tears in both of his knees. His season is likely over and he has a long road to recovery.

As for WR Sammy Watkins, things are a bit more up in the air. Andy Reid said he “tore his hamstring” following the Week 5 game against the Las Vegas Raiders. It’s not yet clear the severity of his tear as he’ll be evaluated later today. It is possible that this is a minor tear, which wouldn’t keep him out for a long time or require surgery.

“Sammy’s a good player,” Chiefs HC Andy Reid said on Monday. “We’ll see how he does here. The guys are just coming in now. We’ll see how it looks, but if Sammy can’t play, we’ve done that throughout last year for a few games and the year before that. So we put the next man up and go. I’m not going to take away from how good of a player he is. He’s a terrific player, but we also have some other guys who can play too.”

The offense tends to play better with Watkins on the field. They’ve averaged more points per game and total yards per game over the past two seasons when he’s in the game.

“He plays a little bit of the low post for you,” Reid continued. “He does a good job with that. He’s strong. But again, we can work around that and we’ve got other guys who can step in and fill those types of roles.”

One of those guys is second-year WR Mecole Hardman. There were some lofty expectations for Hardman to start the 2020 season and he hasn’t quite met them. Through five games, Hardman has just 13 receptions on 17 targets for 194 yards and two touchdowns.

“Mecole (Hardman) just needs to keep growing and keep working,” Reid said of the second-year wideout. “He got a few reps yesterday and so that’s a step forward for him. We’ll see how he does as we go forward here.”

Shifting back to the Osemele injury, one player that has been somewhat forgotten is Martinas Rankin. Rankin is currently on the PUP list after suffering a knee injury in 2019. During the 2019 season, he started five games at left guard for the Chiefs and played very well. Rankin is eligible to return from the PUP list beginning in Week 7, but it doesn’t sound like he’ll be making an immediate return.

“Yeah, so Rank (Martinas Rankin) has done a good job of working to get back,” Reid said. “He’s not quite there yet but he’s working at it.”

They’ll likely ease Rankin back into the swing of things when he does begin practicing. Another option brought up to Reid was second-year OL Nick Allegretti, but it doesn’t seem he’ll be getting an opportunity to start just yet.

“(Nick) Allegretti, he’s been in kind of that swing position,” Reid said. “Kind of covering the bases at both the guard and at center. He’ll still be in that position. (Mike) Remmers would be the one that steps in right now.”

Reid did note that Allegretti would play that swing guard position with Remmers being inserted into the starting lineup. The Chiefs don’t intend to go away from Remmers after he filled in during Week 5. He’s your new starter at that spot for the time being until something changes.

Right now, the Chiefs feel like they have the depth and options to overcome these injuries, short term and long term. They’ll stick with the “Next Man Up” mentality so long as it remains sustainable to do so.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/12/kansas-city-chiefs-andy-reid-talks-injured-player-replacements-martinas-rankin-mike-remmers-mecole-hardman/

I fuckin knew it. Remmers looked like dog shit yesterday. Exactly what I said in the other thread. They won't shake up a fuckin thing. 

[xen 1,010,220]

 

[sith13 1,746]

Watkins simply made our passing game better but I'm sort of excited to finally see Hardman in action as a primary target. Need to see him in an extended role and Watkins is likely a free agent after this season. 

[qnet 1,150]

Things are not looking good along the oline, but Reid always seems to get that worked out in some way as the season goes. 

[kkuenn 3,598]

4 minutes ago, qnet said:

Things are not looking good along the oline, but Reid always seems to get that worked out in some way as the season goes. 

Thing is they really should invest in a good Center or Guard via FA and high draft picks.  Really make the line the strength and let guys like Watkins go to use the money for it. Imagine Mahomes with time and CEH with running lanes.

[qnet 1,150]

27 minutes ago, kkuenn said:

Thing is they really should invest in a good Center or Guard via FA and high draft picks.  Really make the line the strength and let guys like Watkins go to use the money for it. Imagine Mahomes with time and CEH with running lanes.

They had a good center in Mitch Morse. He had the concussion issues here,  but seems to be doing ok in Buffalo. The Chiefs also had Rodney Hudson some time ago. The Chiefs have had really good centers, they just don't seem to value them as much as skill players, because they never keep them. 

I've always thought the oline should be more heavily invested in, and read on here that they can be found in the later rounds. I'm not saying that can't be done, but it hasn't worked out like I would have liked. Maybe Niang would have had some impact, but we won't know this season. 

[kkuenn 3,598]

Rodney Hudson got paid way to much at the time for us to keep him. We had other needs and low cap space at the time.  Morse is a walking injury and missed time already with Buffalo. He is one hit away from being done. I dont fault the team for not keeping wither but we could invest in a draft pick like we did with them and get production. 

[Lamardirts 2,114]

I think Cesar Ruiz was someone we were really interested in this draft but he got snatched up.  But I also don’t think you have to use a first rounder to up rages there.  There are tons of successful guards and centers in the 2-4 round range.   Crazy thing is we will probably go wr in the first anyways.   It was rumored we really wanted Ruggs this year and would have been willing to move up to get him, so who knows.    Line has to be addressed though!

[xen 1,010,220]

You can't pay everyone at every position y'all.  Andy devalues interior line play, schemes around the problems that creates, and frees that money up to spend elsewhere.   

Seems a reasonable strategy as I can't remember a team that won a superbowl on the strength of their interior offensive line.