Oline the rest of the season

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31 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I like a power scheme too. But Reid likes interior lineman who are athletic and can pull, doesn't he?

I would rather have a pulling guy, too.  I was being sarcastic.  I need to use emoji's better.

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1 hour ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I like a power scheme too. But Reid likes interior lineman who are athletic and can pull, doesn't he?

I think that mindset is changing some. 

Osemele

Allegretti

Durant

 

We all know Reiter can't pull and get out in front of anyone

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3 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I like a power scheme too. But Reid likes interior lineman who are athletic and can pull, doesn't he?

Just think if Linderbaum had come out. Iowa plays that pulling scheme. 😉

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10 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

I like a power scheme too. But Reid likes interior lineman who are athletic and can pull, doesn't he?

I think it's about time he changes that mindset. A brick wall in front of Mahomes is much more useful at this point and we have been adding maulers to the bunch lately. 

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

3 hours ago, sith13 said:

I think it's about time he changes that mindset. A brick wall in front of Mahomes is much more useful at this point and we have been adding maulers to the bunch lately. 

Agreed. I'd rather have a bunch of 330 lb road graders than 285 lb guys with great technique and mobility. Just impose your will. 

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Did anyone get any impressions of OCs during the games the last couple of days?  I tried to watch Humphreys and Myers but don't know what to look for on most plays.  Also wanted to see Wheeler from Tulsa and Patterson from N.D. but missed them.  It was really disappointing that Collins dropped out of the Tulsa game.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

8 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Did anyone get any impressions of OCs during the games the last couple of days?  I tried to watch Humphreys and Myers but don't know what to look for on most plays.  Also wanted to see Wheeler from Tulsa and Patterson from N.D. but missed them.  It was really disappointing that Collins dropped out of the Tulsa game.

I wasn't real impressed with Myers yesterday. Not that he played badly, but I expected more.. But that guard next to him...Wyatt Davis. Kid is dominant. 

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Wyatt Davis has had a mediocre season (by his standards) this year but is starting to look like the beast he was last year.  I figured he may have been playing through an injury.  I was actually hoping that would cause him to drop close to our range but doesn't look like it now.

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2 hours ago, xen said:

Wyatt Davis has had a mediocre season (by his standards) this year but is starting to look like the beast he was last year.  I figured he may have been playing through an injury.  I was actually hoping that would cause him to drop close to our range but doesn't look like it now.

The Chiefs don't need a guard in the first round.  Even if Davis fell to them and became the next Shields, there's value on the second day and the Chiefs need OT, LB, Edge, Sammy's replacement, or whoever falls to them at 30-32.  

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33 minutes ago, jetlord said:

The Chiefs don't need a guard in the first round.  Even if Davis fell to them and became the next Shields, there's value on the second day and the Chiefs need OT, LB, Edge, Sammy's replacement, or whoever falls to them at 30-32.  

Unless they trade their extra picks to move up.

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57 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said:

Unless they trade their extra picks to move up.

Are you on a sarcasm roll this year? 😉

With the Chiefs cap situation, they need a maximum number of picks just to fill the roster.  Expect a number of free agents leaving this year.  What will be interesting is how the FAs will do on the open market if about 25 teams are also in cap trouble with it being lowered to $176 million.  If that holds, it's a bad time for players to hit the open market. 

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1 hour ago, jetlord said:

The Chiefs don't need a guard in the first round.  Even if Davis fell to them and became the next Shields, there's value on the second day and the Chiefs need OT, LB, Edge, Sammy's replacement, or whoever falls to them at 30-32.  

Not so.  It was explained to me in the Rushmore thread that Will Shields is more valuable than nearly any other position.   I'm convinced.  We should go OG, kicker in the first 2 rounds.  Then we can count the superbowls with our new Shields and Lowery.

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24 minutes ago, jetlord said:

Are you on a sarcasm roll this year? 😉

With the Chiefs cap situation, they need a maximum number of picks just to fill the roster.  Expect a number of free agents leaving this year.  What will be interesting is how the FAs will do on the open market if about 25 teams are also in cap trouble with it being lowered to $176 million.  If that holds, it's a bad time for players to hit the open market. 

No sarcasm, but you make  great points.  I was responding to the suggestion that Davis would be too high in the first round. But if we really wanted him, we have enough picks with the compensatory picks and extra third round pick to move up a few spots if he is still there.  But I agree, we have other needs that may be greater.  I trust Reid and Veach and Co. to make a strategy that is better than anything we can come up with (fortunately).

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4 hours ago, xen said:

Wyatt Davis has had a mediocre season (by his standards) this year but is starting to look like the beast he was last year.  I figured he may have been playing through an injury.  I was actually hoping that would cause him to drop close to our range but doesn't look like it now.

Dude he was just manhandled those DTs and he didn't even look like he was trying. 

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2 hours ago, jetlord said:

The Chiefs don't need a guard in the first round.  Even if Davis fell to them and became the next Shields, there's value on the second day and the Chiefs need OT, LB, Edge, Sammy's replacement, or whoever falls to them at 30-32.  

This mentality is probably a big part of what's gotten them to a place where we have the worst C/RG combo in the NFL.

 

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I’d take Wyatt Davis in the first in a heartbeat:   You know how much better Fisher plays with a stud next to him,  not sure he’s never had one but when that has been decent he’s a way better player.  I know the value isn’t great but I guarantee you the colts aren’t disappointed in taking Q. Nelson.

Find a way to get J Kelce and our Oline is instantly way better.  

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17 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

This mentality is probably a big part of what's gotten them to a place where we have the worst C/RG combo in the NFL.

 

Nope.  What got the Chiefs into an inferior line situation was not drafting (and keeping) linemen in the second through fourth rounds.  Allen, Morse, Hudson are examples of getting good quality without reaching into the first round.  I'm being repetitive, but the idea is that OTs are often worth first round picks.  Interior linemen may drop off in quality from the first to second to third rounds, but the drop off isn't worth losing that stud skill player, edge rusher, or OT that can be had in the first.  Davis may be the best OG in the draft, but he won't be that much of a difference maker over whoever can be had in the second round.  The Chiefs problems didn't happen because they didn't draft guards in the first round.  They happened because they waited until the sixth, if at all in too many cases. 

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3 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Dude he was just manhandled those DTs and he didn't even look like he was trying. 

Uh maybe reread what I wrote.  I didn't say he was mediocre in this game.  He's had somewhat of a down year but looked great in this game.  

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https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/01/kansas-city-chiefs-martinas-rankin-week-17-starter/

 

The Kansas City Chiefs are set to start a familiar face along the offensive line in Week 17 — one that hasn’t played since Week 10 of the 2019 season.

When the Chiefs traded running back Carlos Hyde to the Houston Texans for offensive lineman Martinas Rankin ahead of the 2019 season, it proved to be a key move reinforcing depth at a position that would go through some attrition during the year. Injuries to Andrew Wylie and Eric Fisher would force Rankin into action at the left guard position, where he would start five games before suffering a season-ending knee injury.

Rankin hadn’t lived up to his draft standing with the Texans, but he turned the corner when he arrived in Kansas City. Before his injury, Rankin even thought that he was playing some of his best football.

“Yes, I definitely felt like I was progressing to really help this team do some big things,” Rankin told reporters on Friday. “When it happened I think that was probably one of the things that hurt me the most — the fact that I was just kind of really just starting to figure out that I could really be a dominant player in this league. That I could really contribute to a Super Bowl contender — a Super Bowl champion team.”

The road back to action for Rankin has been a long one. He began the 2020 offseason on the PUP list in Kansas City. The team would open his practice window in late October and activated him to the 53-man roster in early November. Still, Rankin sat on the roster waiting for an opportunity to get back on the field, despite injuries at the tackle position.

“It’s probably been a product of a couple of things,” Chiefs OL coach Andy Heck explained on Thursday. “Yeah, he’s had to work his way back in there, which he’s been doing a nice job of. I love Rank [Martinas Rankin], we got a chance to see him some last year as a player, we’re very excited about him as a player. He’s been working his tail off. And then, we’ve had guys that have been stepping in and doing a nice job. We’ve been having some success, and so we didn’t want to force anything when there wasn’t a need to. But it’s good to have Rank out there working this week, and I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do.”

Now, Rankin is as close to 100% as he has been during the course of his recovery. It hasn’t been an easy comeback, but he’s prepared to take this meaningful step forward in Week 17.

“I would say that I’m getting real, real close to it,” Rankin said. “It’s been a real long process, of course. But I’ve just been putting my head down and coming to work, just controlling the things that I can control. I’m just ready to go out there and put my best foot forward.”

Chiefs HC Andy Reid describes Rankin as “smart, tough and a good athlete.” However, the most impressive attribute in the recovery process has been his attitude. This injury has made him push himself, perhaps even harder than before the injury.

“My motivation to get back is just, I want to be better than I was even before the injury,” Rankin said. “Just keep pushing yourself because there’s a lot of people in the world who go through tougher things than getting hurt doing something that they love to do, like playing the sport that I play. That’s one thing I’ve always kept in mind. Just that there’s worse things in life, so I should just embrace the challenge ahead of me and just keep persevering. That’s — I feel the story of my life is — perseverance. You get knocked down, but you’ve got to keep getting up. That’s what I’m going to do and what I’m going to continue to do.”

Rankin should have an opportunity to start in Week 17. It’ll be his first game that he has started since November of 2019, back when he suffered his knee injury. He’ll have a chance to knock off some of the rust after not playing in a game for a full calendar year.

“I expect to get a lot of time,” Rankin said. “Maybe the whole game, so I’ll get a chance to go out there and continue to work toward being a great tackle or guard or whatever they want to put me at.”

Rankin doesn’t yet know where he’ll play on the offensive line against the Los Angeles Chargers. He played left guard in 2019 but is listed as a tackle on the team’s unofficial depth chart. He’ll be prepared to play either position.

“Coming into the league, that was one thing that I thought could help me is that I could be versatile across the board,” Rankin said. “There’s differences at the position, but the No. 1 thing is just understanding concept football. It’s a little different, of course, but that’s something that I kind of hang my hat on. The fact that I can be a dominant player at both positions — or any position honestly.”

No matter what happens this week, it will be an opportunity for Rankin to put his best foot forward on his path to a full recovery. He figures to be an important piece in Kansas City in the future and the Chiefs will certainly benefit from him getting out there to gain some confidence after his injury.

“Like I said, I’m just going to keep persevering,” Rankin said. “We’re all going to get knocked down at some point in life, so you can’t hang your head too long

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27 minutes ago, xen said:

Uh maybe reread what I wrote.  I didn't say he was mediocre in this game.  He's had somewhat of a down year but looked great in this game.  

Why do I need to reread what you said? I wasn't arguing with you. I was agreeing with you. Calm your tits. And check your PMs too.

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15 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Why do I need to reread what you said? I wasn't arguing with you. I was agreeing with you. Calm your tits. And check your PMs too.

xen's tits must remain perky!

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2 minutes ago, azchief21 said:

xen's tits must remain perky!

I am a fan of perky ones.

[Lamardirts 2,114]

How did Rankins look today?  

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38 minutes ago, Lamardirts said:

How did Rankins look today?  

meh

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7 hours ago, kkuenn said:

I am a fan of perky ones.

If you are a fan, then you merely applaud or yell when you see them.  Or are you actually a participant?

 

 

 

Reminds me of an old limerick:

"There was a young gal from Devizes,
Who had breasts of different sizes
One was quite small, really nothing at all
But the other was huge and won prizes"