xen 1,010,220 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hand it to Alex. He's still treating us right. When we build the staue for the GOAT, he gets a smaller one right next to the Fitzpatrick bobblehead. KC Warpaint, DefensiveMan, sith13 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Love that we can now lose to the Saints or Falcons and it will have zero impact on us getting the #1 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCWEST 1,238 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Balto said: Love that we can now lose to the Saints or Falcons and it will have zero impact on us getting the #1 seed. Why? Are you assuming Pitts will lose more games? Iluvhouse24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 50 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: I think the Bills are frauds and Phillip Rivers doesn’t win big games. Cleveland will be playing to prove something. Bills are lookin pretty solid. Pitt has their hands full might even lose the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Boom.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, AFCWEST said: Why? Are you assuming Pitts will lose more games? No. They have to lose for us to get number 1 either way. And if they do it will be to an afc team. So another loss doesnt matter to us. It changes nothing. We need a steelers loss either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, reesebobby said: No. They have to lose for us to get number 1 either way. And if they do it will be to an afc team. So another loss doesnt matter to us. It changes nothing. We need a steelers loss either way. The Chiefs can lose again without losing a #1 seed only if it's to N.o. or ATL. A loss to MIA would pretty much end it. If PIT wins out, it won't matter. PIT was exposed tonight. They are currently 1.5 favorites over the Bills and CLE or IND could trip them up. Things are looking good for the Chiefs if they don't blow the fish game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, jetlord said: The Chiefs can lose again without losing a #1 seed only if it's to N.o. or ATL. A loss to MIA would pretty much end it. If PIT wins out, it won't matter. PIT was exposed tonight. They are currently 1.5 favorites over the Bills and CLE or IND could trip them up. Things are looking good for the Chiefs if they don't blow the fish game. Yes. Thats what he said and i said poorly. A saints loss matters not. jetlord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yes what all you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Steelers schedule: Bills-L, we take #1 unless we lose to Phins or Chargers Cinnzy-L, we take #1 only if we win out, any lose and they take #1 Colts-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 Browns-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Balto said: Steelers schedule: Bills-L, we take #1 unless we lose to Phins or Chargers Cinnzy-L, we take #1 only if we win out, any lose and they take #1 Colts-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 Browns-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 Why does it make a difference whether the Chiefs lose to N.O. instead of the Falcons? Seems like it would be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Tiebreakers - Two Clubs Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in common games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, Balto said: Steelers schedule: Bills-L, we take #1 unless we lose to Phins or Chargers Cinnzy-L, we take #1 only if we win out, any lose and they take #1 Colts-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 Browns-L, we take #1 but can only lose to Falcons. Any other lose and they take #1 If stillers lose a division game and we lose to an nfc team i think it would go to strength of victory wouldn't it? No head to head We would have identical division records Common game record the same Conference 1 loss each We would have the tiebreaker on strength of victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, KCSLC2008 said: oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I want Alex Smith to win next week against the Niners. That way he will have beaten all the teams in the NFL except for the Chiefs. Although, he has caused the Chiefs to lose before, hardy har har. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 It's good to see Smith finally beat the Steelers. Don't know how the seeding will turn out but Big Ben and the company have been exposed quite a bit over the last couple weeks. I think they lose at least one other game but not sure about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgar 1,046 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 well we have meaningfull football... they get the bills we get miami... both teams need to play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 hours ago, xen said: Tiebreakers - Two Clubs Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs). Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Strength of victory. Strength of schedule. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed. Best net points in common games. Best net points in all games. Best net touchdowns in all games. Coin toss Thats the tiebreaker for a division champion. Division record doesnt factor in a tiebreaker with the steelers. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 the steelers still are #1 seed...we need them to lose to buffalo and we can move up, provided we beat the fins oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 KC Warpaint, oldtimer, sith13 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Not to repeat things, but here's how I'm looking at the tiebreaker scenarios: We both finish 15-1: Steelers get it based on conference record We both finish 14-2: any Steelers loss now evens the conference record, provided that we beat Miami and LA. If we lose to the Dolphins or Chargers, we lose the #1. If that Steelers loss is to the Bills, that swings common games to us (by my count there are 5 common games, meeting the minimum of 4, depending on how they count the Ravens and Broncos who both played one team once and the other team twice) In this scenario we can afford for our final loss (to get to 14-2) to be to the Saints or Falcons because it doesn't play into the tiebreakers at all. If the Steelers lose to someone other than the Bills, then the tiebreaker gets kicked to Strength of Victory, followed by Strength of Schedule. Right now both are very tight: http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/afcsosag.html However, in this scenario, because of strength of victory it would be preferable for us to beat the Saints and lose to the Falcons rather than vice versa. We both finish 13-3: most of the above still applies Best case for us is if the Steelers lose to the Bills and we don't lose both AFC games Browns and Bills are still technically in the mix at this record (they would both need to win out), I didn't work out those scenarios I don't think we should be considering scenarios at 12-4 or 11-5, those would be disasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Thegoatee said: I think the Bills are frauds and Phillip Rivers doesn’t win big games. Cleveland will be playing to prove something. Not that Rivers wasn't a statue before but now he has a foot injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 hours ago, KCSLC2008 said: Problem is that when pressed for time like that they just use the regular ball so in essence, he gave them a free time out to get the kicking team on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Adamixoye said: Not to repeat things, but here's how I'm looking at the tiebreaker scenarios: We both finish 15-1: Steelers get it based on conference record We both finish 14-2: any Steelers loss now evens the conference record, provided that we beat Miami and LA. If we lose to the Dolphins or Chargers, we lose the #1. If that Steelers loss is to the Bills, that swings common games to us (by my count there are 5 common games, meeting the minimum of 4, depending on how they count the Ravens and Broncos who both played one team once and the other team twice) In this scenario we can afford for our final loss (to get to 14-2) to be to the Saints or Falcons because it doesn't play into the tiebreakers at all. If the Steelers lose to someone other than the Bills, then the tiebreaker gets kicked to Strength of Victory, followed by Strength of Schedule. Right now both are very tight: http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/afcsosag.html However, in this scenario, because of strength of victory it would be preferable for us to beat the Saints and lose to the Falcons rather than vice versa. We both finish 13-3: most of the above still applies Best case for us is if the Steelers lose to the Bills and we don't lose both AFC games Browns and Bills are still technically in the mix at this record (they would both need to win out), I didn't work out those scenarios I don't think we should be considering scenarios at 12-4 or 11-5, those would be disasters. Well said...CLAP CLAP. Love the bullet points! Looks like we all should go buy a Bills hat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Balto said: Well said...CLAP CLAP. Love the bullet points! Looks like we all should go buy a Bills hat!!! That or Cleveland hat. Better that they lose a division game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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