Calichief 3,016 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Oh, and d williams is a BEAST oldtimer and sith13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 hours ago, mex said: they sacked rogers 5 times today... TB's DL is outstanding it's not looking good for us without fish. It wasn't like Fisher was going all world that first game. It can be schemed around and those DB's can't cover our guys. It will be a great game but I look for our D to do a little work in two weeks as well. Thornhill is coming around and Gay will be back. Should be a great game. If Brady throws 3 ints vs us we win going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, jetlord said: Makes sense. Let Pringle return kicks while Hardman focuses on securing the ball before looking for tacklers. It's just overkill to wish to release Hardman, Toub, and the horses they rode in on at this point. I was expecting Hardman to be what DMC couldn't in the long run but he turned out to be a dumber version of DAT with much better speed. I think he'll be a career #4 but still needs to fix a lot of things to actually warrant such a role. Toub used to be a star but I don't get why he just brings these guys up so aggressive, the additional few yards aren't worth the risk with Mahomes around and the risks don't seem to be paying off very well in the last couple seasons. AFCWEST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 All youse bitchin bout Clark: 2 sacks 2 tackles for loss 2 additional qb hits Set clean edges All while the ends were obviously tasked with playing contain on Allen (that's why they were always going out wide). Playoff Shark showed up AFCWEST and Joe_Chief 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 9 hours ago, jetlord said: One thing could make a huge difference. Teach him to look the ball into his hands before trying to run. I agree... but this is the NFL... do we hire a high school coach to work with him on Pop Warner fundamentals? Yeah he fucked up... and I was the first to bitch at him yesterday. But he made up for it in spades. Let's not forget Hill did the exact same thing one year ago. That jet sweep worked (obviously) because his speed in addition to TH's makes it nigh impossible to cover. They need to pretty much double up on both of 'em. Kelce had a phenomenal game yesterday because they had to constantly commit their safeties to help out on MH and TH. \ Leaving LBs to cover the best TE in football. Hardman makes mistakes just like they all do, but his presence makes this team better. No doubt about that. The thing I like best about this team is how they responded to him on the sideline after the fumble. It was all positive and you can tell the team has confidence in him. Andy (as per Andy) didn't give up on him and gave ample opportunity to make up for his mistake. He rewarded that with two great plays that permanently changed the momentum of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, xen said: All youse bitchin bout Clark: 2 sacks 2 tackles for loss 2 additional qb hits Set clean edges All while the ends were obviously tasked with playing contain on Allen (that's why they were always going out wide). Playoff Shark showed up And I'm going to continue bitching about him oldtimer and artsy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 and I still hate #17 AFCWEST and mex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, oldtimer said: and I still hate #17 lol seriously tho... Frank Clark... 6 sacks on the season. 4 million per sack. yeah, yesterday he had 1/3 of his season total... and if that continues in the SB, I'll STFU Jones at 7.5... 2.6 million per sack Clark needs to wreck Brady to earn his cap hit Troyofoc and oldtimer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, mex said: lol seriously tho... Frank Clark... 6 sacks on the season. 4 million per sack. yeah, yesterday he had 1/3 of his season total... and if that continues in the SB, I'll STFU Jones at 7.5... 2.6 million per sack Clark needs to wreck Brady to earn his cap hit yea, I'm wit ya. If he wrecks Brady I'll give him a pass for this year. Otherwise, Frank, the "Skank" can get gone next year and stop robbing the chiefs of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, artsy said: yea, I'm wit ya. If he wrecks Brady I'll give him a pass for this year. Otherwise, Frank, the "Skank" can get gone next year and stop robbing the chiefs of money. got another year of his crap.. too expensive to cut mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, mex said: lol seriously tho... Frank Clark... 6 sacks on the season. 4 million per sack. yeah, yesterday he had 1/3 of his season total... and if that continues in the SB, I'll STFU Jones at 7.5... 2.6 million per sack Clark needs to wreck Brady to earn his cap hit Those boys are gonna need to be careful. Refs will be looking to throw flags. Chris Jones and Brady don’t like each other. Always jawing each other mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 People want Clark cut, Hardman cut, Fish cut, Schwartz cut and half the time Dirty Dan cut. Just where are we magically finding quality replacements for all these people while there are 31 other teams looking for the same positions? Can't wait to cut thinking the grass will be greener on the other side. Taint Madden qnet and xen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: People want Clark cut, Hardman cut, Fish cut, Schwartz cut and half the time Dirty Dan cut. Just where are we magically finding quality replacements for all these people while there are 31 other teams looking for the same positions? Can't wait to cut thinking the grass will be greener on the other side. Taint Madden lol I hear ya Biggs, but with respect to Clark... we could probably replace 6 sacks over 18 games with a 3rd round pick oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, mex said: lol I hear ya Biggs, but with respect to Clark... we could probably replace 6 sacks over 18 games with a 3rd round pick I'm praying he's had an off year and it comes back around SB and next season. But can't really argue your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: I'm praying he's had an off year and it comes back around SB and next season. But can't really argue your point. Me too... I'll be rooting for him as long as he's in KC... but he's currently tied with 9 guys in 41st place in total sacks. Yet he's the 7th highest paid player in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, mex said: lol I hear ya Biggs, but with respect to Clark... we could probably replace 6 sacks over 18 games with a 3rd round pick We can agree that Clark is overpaid, but there's more to his worth than sacks. The Chiefs are getting "pressures" at a good rate and that leads to wins as well as sacks do, especially against the young guns in the AFC.. Not trying to defend Clark, but he also has the responsibility of holding the end which makes him stay wide and often run himself out of any sack opportunity. Against an LJ8, Allen, or any other running type QB that is important. Bottom line is the results and so far, the Chiefs are beating every one of those guys. Veach brought in Clark, HB, and Spags in order to make a SB run. Not all decisions are perfect but one can't argue with what's happened since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Couldn't find it but there was a nice piece on why players like Michael Bennett at Seattle are the ones to target in FA. Tying up a lot of money on a single guy doesn't always make everyone else around him much better, instead in a lot of cases it simply takes away the ability to find a decent compliment to the star. I think Clark was a beast last year and if he can get back to that he'll be awesome but regardless having multiple players perform at Ogbah level would be much better IMO. The same goes for pretty much everyone on defense as rotation is much more critical than offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, jetlord said: We can agree that Clark is overpaid, but there's more to his worth than sacks. The Chiefs are getting "pressures" at a good rate and that leads to wins as well as sacks do, especially against the young guns in the AFC.. Not trying to defend Clark, but he also has the responsibility of holding the end which makes him stay wide and often run himself out of any sack opportunity. Against an LJ8, Allen, or any other running type QB that is important. Bottom line is the results and so far, the Chiefs are beating every one of those guys. Veach brought in Clark, HB, and Spags in order to make a SB run. Not all decisions are perfect but one can't argue with what's happened since. yeah, I get that... he demands attention which takes pressure off the other guys IE jones but DT demanded attention too... and he killed it I think Dan Saleaumua had better numbers over the course of his few years with the Chiefs than Clark... and for much less money. Personally, I would love to see performance-based salaries. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, sith13 said: Couldn't find it but there was a nice piece on why players like Michael Bennett at Seattle are the ones to target in FA. Tying up a lot of money on a single guy doesn't always make everyone else around him much better, instead in a lot of cases it simply takes away the ability to find a decent compliment to the star. I think Clark was a beast last year and if he can get back to that he'll be awesome but regardless having multiple players perform at Ogbah level would be much better IMO. The same goes for pretty much everyone on defense as rotation is much more critical than offense. Except HB. He's worth every penny the Chiefs give him. No HB, no SB. xen and sith13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, jetlord said: Except HB. He's worth every penny the Chiefs give him. No HB, no SB. HB is simply one of those guys that makes people around him much better. He definitely deserves every penny and hasn't been an occasional performer unlike our trench guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 HB and Thornhill coming back into form is beautiful to watch. I know breeland can make some dumb mistakes at times, but it will be tough to watch him leave this off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, jetlord said: We can agree that Clark is overpaid, but there's more to his worth than sacks. The Chiefs are getting "pressures" at a good rate and that leads to wins as well as sacks do, especially against the young guns in the AFC.. Not trying to defend Clark, but he also has the responsibility of holding the end which makes him stay wide and often run himself out of any sack opportunity. Against an LJ8, Allen, or any other running type QB that is important. Bottom line is the results and so far, the Chiefs are beating every one of those guys. Veach brought in Clark, HB, and Spags in order to make a SB run. Not all decisions are perfect but one can't argue with what's happened since. Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: HB and Thornhill coming back into form is beautiful to watch. I know breeland can make some dumb mistakes at times, but it will be tough to watch him leave this off season Thornhill was excellent yesterday, and it seems like he's back into his groove just in time I might add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,556 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, xen said: Uuhhh DefensiveMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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