DieHard 2,061 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Man, my reading glasses must be scratched, Is Rieter (a 7th round pick by Washington) the only lineman we have that was not undrafted? That just doesn’t seem possible. We ran the ball well and threw for a Brazilian yards behind a bunch of UDFAs. Has any team ever played a SB with one damn 7th rounder? I don’t know how much is Patrick and how much is Reid, but an offensive juggernaut that can’t be stopped typically has a huge investment in Oline. The fact that these guys just torch people with nobody’s up front is hard to fathom. It speaks volumes to the legend of Reid and Mahoney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, DieHard said: Man, my reading glasses must be scratched, Is Rieter (a 7th round pick by Washington) the only lineman we have that was not undrafted? That just doesn’t seem possible. We ran the ball well and threw for a Brazilian yards behind a bunch of UDFAs. Has any team ever played a SB with one damn 7th rounder? I don’t know how much is Patrick and how much is Reid, but an offensive juggernaut that can’t be stopped typically has a huge investment in Oline. The fact that these guys just torch people with nobody’s up front is hard to fathom. It speaks volumes to the legend of Reid and Mahoney. Allegretti was a 7th rounder. Wisniewski was a second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Forgot about Wiz. Still pretty damned impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Makes one wonder what the offense could be with an average line or better. What if the Chiefs could be confident that they could run on third or fourth down and short? What if Mahomes had a consistent clean pocket? What if CEH had a few road graders in front? Gotta build in the next draft and hope they jell quickly. Burpo The Mad Clown, Lamardirts, Iluvhouse24 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Could you imagine if there was a true threat of the run? oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Calichief said: Could you imagine if there was a true threat of the run? I don't think the Brownies could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Mahomes. #period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think it's very likely we grab 2 OL, WR and DE in the draft along with some depth. This oline as bad as it's been this year can get fixed in a hurry. We have some pieces to use already on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Lamardirts said: I think it's very likely we grab 2 OL, WR and DE in the draft along with some depth. This oline as bad as it's been this year can get fixed in a hurry. We have some pieces to use already on this team. My mocks have a OT in the first and OC in the third. But so many questions are unknowable at this point that its just guesswork. Will Schwartz try to come back? Is Niang staying in shape and motivated to learn this summer? What's the status of Rankin? Will Osemele recover and will the Chiefs resign him? Can Durant learn to play OG or improve to a swing tackle position? Is LDT coming back stronger? The line can be fixed or at least made acceptable with only a few new pieces and a little luck. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Calichief said: Could you imagine if there was a true threat of the run? Meh you just have to be able to run the ball to back teams off the pass and close out games. When you have Pat Mahomes at QB you're almost always better off letting him cook. DieHard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, xen said: Meh you just have to be able to run the ball to back teams off the pass and close out games. When you have Pat Mahomes at QB you're almost always better off letting him cook. I’m not saying pound the rock. Just the threat. Teams would be in more disarray than they already are. I think with Williams emerging it’s coming. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, xen said: Meh you just have to be able to run the ball to back teams off the pass and close out games. When you have Pat Mahomes at QB you're almost always better off letting him cook. You also have to have a high probably of making those third or fourth and short conversions. Watching the Chiefs near the goal line gets painful at times with no ability to pound the rock when the defense knows what's coming. oldtimer and artsy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, jetlord said: You also have to have a high probably of making those third or fourth and short conversions. Watching the Chiefs near the goal line gets painful at times with no ability to pound the rock when the defense knows what's coming. That’s what “sprint right option” is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, SEMO said: That’s what “sprint right option” is for. On fourth down and a foot to go, that looks fine or looks foolish. It's still better to have a high percentage play quick and straight ahead. For the Chiefs this year, is isn't high percentage. Look at their red zone record. oldtimer and Burpo The Mad Clown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The league is a passing league and that is what defenses are being built to stop. I think by getting some fatties and pounding the rock more it works to the overall advantage of balance and creativity against more undersized defenses. It doesn't have to be one or the other, but proving we can also run at will leaves them no chance. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Biggjliv4 said: The league is a passing league and that is what defenses are being built to stop. I think by getting some fatties and pounding the rock more it works to the overall advantage of balance and creativity against more undersized defenses. It doesn't have to be one or the other, but proving we can also run at will leaves them no chance. also extends MVPats career and overall quality of life sith13, qnet, DieHard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I saw some clips of Trent Green behind that O line. He'd drop back and sip some tea while waiting for Mark Boerigter to get open. Lamardirts, NCK Chiefs Fan, DieHard and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, jetlord said: You also have to have a high probably of making those third or fourth and short conversions. Watching the Chiefs near the goal line gets painful at times with no ability to pound the rock when the defense knows what's coming. True dat. I agree you should be ABLE to run effectively and that it will make everything easier if they can. I just don't agree that we SHOULD run unless its situational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Adding a TE like Dunn would help as well. I would love the chiefs run it down teams throats especially when they know it’s coming. We will be playing lighter boxes so it’s gotta be part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 hours ago, jetlord said: You also have to have a high probably of making those third or fourth and short conversions. Watching the Chiefs near the goal line gets painful at times with no ability to pound the rock when the defense knows what's coming. Insert the emergence of Williams II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Calichief said: Insert the emergence of Williams II He certainly hits the line without hesitation unlike Bell or even CEH, but it still takes an O-line to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 17 hours ago, azchief21 said: I saw some clips of Trent Green behind that O line. He'd drop back and sip some tea while waiting for Mark Boerigter to get open. Yeah, I was imagining Mahomes with three or four borderline hall of fame offensive linemen. Imagine how incredible it would be to watch. sith13 and azchief21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 hours ago, jetlord said: He certainly hits the line without hesitation unlike Bell or even CEH, but it still takes an O-line to be successful. No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Robert Hainey the RG from Notre Dame was taking reps at center at the senior bowl yesterday and looked good at it. Could be a 3rd round option to come compete with Allegretti at center. With the one that doesn't win the starting spot being a solid depth guy at any interior position. I also thought Spencer Brown from Northern Iowa looked good a well. I believe we would have to use a 2nd rounder on him to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpo The Mad Clown 5,556 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 11:23 AM, Thegoatee said: Yeah, I was imagining Mahomes with three or four borderline hall of fame offensive linemen. Imagine how incredible it would be to watch. I’m thinking about Miami’s O line when Marino was there. They had the attitude “No, you may not get near Mr. Marino, now or ever.” Number 13 almost always left the field with a clean jersey. If Pat had that kind of line no QB record would be safe. And number 15 would have a long, healthy career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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