Palangi 788 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I know they aren't quite on the same level but I would like to see Gay and DOD used like the Bucs LBs. Both Gay and DOD have the same speed traits as white and David. Gay is bigger and more physical like white. And DOD is very similar in size and speed as David. Playing experience would help with instincts some with our two. Both Buc LBs have great instincts. But Gay and DOD flash when given opportunities. DOD is really good in coverage too. But no we will continue to trot out Hitchens, Wilson, and the shit show known as Neimann. And let's not forget Sorenson who is atrocious as a box player and covering TEs. artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Niemann is baffling. Dan Sorenson should be a backup and special teams guy, not a defacto nickel/dime DB on the field over half the game. I realize Britt Reid is the “outside LB coach” but I just ask myself, do we even have outside LBs? Our base is like a 4-2 nickel with crappy interior LBs and Sorenson or Niemann. None of the LBs seem to make an impact or big plays. They can all be let go as soon as financially viable as far as I am concerned. Play the rookies now. Nothing can be more worthless than Niemann. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I know we need better linebackers but we lost because our front 4 didn't generate pressure and their front 4 allowed them to play 7 guys in coverage. We lost because Hardman lined up offsides on a fg and Andy Reid called TO before half. Score should have been 10-6 at half. Nieman should be upgraded but that isn't hard to do. Hitchens sucks too but he's to expensive to cut so we have him one more year. Gay should help tremendously. What this team needs is a DE who can generate pressure. Frank is an all around DE but he's not a pass rusher specialist. Gotta have another one DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: I know we need better linebackers but we lost because our front 4 didn't generate pressure and their front 4 allowed them to play 7 guys in coverage. We lost because Hardman lined up offsides on a fg and Andy Reid called TO before half. Score should have been 10-6 at half. Nieman should be upgraded but that isn't hard to do. Hitchens sucks too but he's to expensive to cut so we have him one more year. Gay should help tremendously. What this team needs is a DE who can generate pressure. Frank is an all around DE but he's not a pass rusher specialist. Gotta have another one DE. LOL! Dirts..You need to stop posting man... You make too much sense and it pisses me off! If we see this shit, why in the world don't they???? We went to back to back SB's with the shittiest oline ever fielded, we won 14 games with the shittiest LBs to ever start in the NFL and we managed to hold some of the NFL's top-rated passing attacks to respectable games with a decent secondary and no consistent pass rush. Our success is a real credit to the coaching staff and PM15. But good teams will take advantage of your weaknesses. IMO, we don't need much to address our weaknesses. I really hope they "focus" on this draft and Free agency so we can get our revenge next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: I know we need better linebackers but we lost because our front 4 didn't generate pressure and their front 4 allowed them to play 7 guys in coverage. We lost because Hardman lined up offsides on a fg and Andy Reid called TO before half. Score should have been 10-6 at half. Nieman should be upgraded but that isn't hard to do. Hitchens sucks too but he's to expensive to cut so we have him one more year. Gay should help tremendously. What this team needs is a DE who can generate pressure. Frank is an all around DE but he's not a pass rusher specialist. Gotta have another one DE. Those timeouts were a lot of risk and not much reward potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, artsy said: LOL! Dirts..You need to stop posting man... You make too much sense and it pisses me off! If we see this shit, why in the world don't they???? We went to back to back SB's with the shittiest oline ever fielded, we won 14 games with the shittiest LBs to ever start in the NFL and we managed to hold some of the NFL's top-rated passing attacks to respectable games with a decent secondary and no consistent pass rush. Our success is a real credit to the coaching staff and PM15. But good teams will take advantage of your weaknesses. IMO, we don't need much to address our weaknesses. I really hope they "focus" on this draft and Free agency so we can get our revenge next year! Thanks......writing on this board is cathartic for me after such an abysmal loss. Thankfully this draft is deep on OL and WR's which is huge for us. The top 3 positions I think we must address is 1. 3-4 OL positions - I put OL first because it opens up the running game so even with the lack of overall wr talent we have it adds another wrinkle to our O, plus it protects Mahomes. 2. DE - Pressure is what wins on D in this league. Tampa's LB's are great but without that pass rush Mahomes carves those boys up like every other good set of backers. 3. WR - Hardman is gadget player and that is it. It stings that we buried a 2nd on him but dang that dude was disappointing this year. Secondary positions S - Get Sorensen off the field LB - Need another coverage backer to take Nieman's spot TE2 - Gonna need to start developing someone with talent sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Well we should have a NEW LB coach next season. I cannot see Clark allowing andy to keep his son around, and he should not be around. He needs to go to a clinic to dry out and kick his addictions (ok i will get off my soapbox now) NCChief and oldtimer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 sucks that we would never have had to deal with Hardman if the Hill drama had not happened , but it is what it is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: Well we should have a NEW LB coach next season. I cannot see Clark allowing andy to keep his son around, and he should not be around. He needs to go to a clinic to dry out and kick his addictions (ok i will get off my soapbox now) Matt House is the LB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Lamardirts said: Matt House is the LB coach. i read somewhere that Reid was the LB coach, my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: i read somewhere that Reid was the LB coach, my bad Reid is the OLB coach. House is the LB coach. Always wondered what Reid did with that position since the Chiefs seldom use OLBs. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Palangi said: I know they aren't quite on the same level but I would like to see Gay and DOD used like the Bucs LBs. Both Gay and DOD have the same speed traits as white and David. Gay is bigger and more physical like white. And DOD is very similar in size and speed as David. Playing experience would help with instincts some with our two. Both Buc LBs have great instincts. But Gay and DOD flash when given opportunities. DOD is really good in coverage too. But no we will continue to trot out Hitchens, Wilson, and the shit show known as Neimann. And let's not forget Sorenson who is atrocious as a box player and covering TEs. We'll see Gay and Hitch this fall, I assume because Hitch is too expensive to cut. It still would be good for the Chiefs to draft their compliment to Gay this spring since Reid seems not to trust rookies at that position. Next to O-line, the Chiefs need a solid LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think someone else mentioned it but gay and DOD should start. Hitchens will be here. I like Wilson. He made that huge goal line stand. They will need to add others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 6:55 PM, Holmes4six! said: I think someone else mentioned it but gay and DOD should start. Hitchens will be here. I like Wilson. He made that huge goal line stand. They will need to add others. DOD has not done shit. Draft OL, LB, a DE to rush opposite of Clark and a 2nd TE or WR. Use FA in there for some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, kkuenn said: DOD has not done shit. DradDraft ne, LB, a DE to rush opposite of Clark and a 2nd TE or WR. Use FA in there for some too. Yes he has not done much but he hasn't played enough to show that he hasn't done shit. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: Yes he has not done much but he hasn't played enough to show that he hasn't done shit. He has made plays in the limited time given too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Holmes4six! said: Yes he has not done much but he hasn't played enough to show that he hasn't done shit. With this sad ass LB group, if he can't get more playing time it shows just how shitty he is imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, kkuenn said: With this sad ass LB group, if he can't get more playing time it shows just how shitty he is imo. No it doesn't. We've gone over this with Reiter and Wylie. We have a loyal coaching staff. In the limited opportunities DOD has looked much better than Neimann. But yet we trot him out there. We wouldn't play Allegretti until forced and he ended up being our best lineman this year. Rankin showed he is a good player last year, yet we continue to play Wylie. In Durant one start against the Chargers he looked good at RG. He we continue to play Wylie. The couldn't get on the field rant is obnoxious and very short sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Palangi said: No it doesn't. We've gone over this with Reiter and Wylie. We have a loyal coaching staff. In the limited opportunities DOD has looked much better than Neimann. But yet we trot him out there. DOD was here before Nieman. He was drafted even. He must not show shit at all for them to even consider a guy undrafted to play more than him. DOD is a wasted pick and needs to go or stay on ST. Niemann needs to be ST player too. We can draft or get a cheap FA better than both. He is also the size of a Safety and needs to not be injured. He missed time last year and this year, year 2, in a new 4-3 system. His time is up. To bad he does not get it like Nieman does or Nieman not have his athleticism. Combine the 2 and you would have one good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, kkuenn said: DOD was here before Nieman. He was drafted even. He must not show shit at all for them to even consider a guy undrafted to play more than him. DOD is a wasted pick and needs to go or stay on ST. Niemann needs to be ST player too. We can draft or get a cheap FA better than both. He is also the size of a Safety and needs to not be injured. He missed time last year and this year, year 2, in a new 4-3 system. His time is up. To bad he does not get it like Nieman does or Nieman not have his athleticism. Combine the 2 and you would have one good player. Neimann also has some weird family tie to the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Use him like the Buccaneers use Lavonte David. They are similar in size. Dude has some abilities. Definitely more than Neimann. Again don't he caught up in the playing time. Sometimes it takes injuries for our coaches to figure out who is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Palangi said: Neimann also has some weird family tie to the coaching staff. No matter. Neither can play as a starter. Situational at best or depth. ST players for both. Draft or get one in FA. We need to get Gay going and the new LB preparing for Hitchens being gone. Could use 2 LB to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 https://youtu.be/jq8f1-nNC2s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, kkuenn said: No matter. Neither can play as a starter. Situational at best or depth. ST players for both. Draft or get one in FA. We need to get Gay going and the new LB preparing for Hitchens being gone. Could use 2 LB to be honest. All in saying is I wouldn't close the book on DOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,599 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Palangi said: Use him like the Buccaneers use Lavonte David. They are similar in size. Dude has some abilities. Definitely more than Neimann. Again don't he caught up in the playing time. Sometimes it takes injuries for our coaches to figure out who is the better player. I could care less. A top 100 drafted player has to be available for one and secondly has to be able to understand the defense. He was a waste of a pick. Our 2nd and 3rd round picks have been for potential, we need solid starters instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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