artsy 1,137 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, jetlord said: Didn't CEH average over 7 yds/carry in the SB? Hardly useless except he wasn't used enough How many 3rd and shorts did we convert? We tried..But couldn't do it. CEH was able to get yards against their Nickle and Dime defenses when we were in 2nd/3rd and longs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Fmbl2187 said: I agree, and my knowledge is limited, but I would assume the draftees that played immediately were all four year starters in college. A four year could step in right away and make the usual mistakes and keep getting better for several years. Fisher is a perfect example. Chiefs fans were ready to abandon him after three years, and he was a first pick in the draft. It takes patience, and we have to protect Mahomes. Any FA vet would be better than what we have now, but this will be a long process to fix that crucial position. Why does it have to be a long process? Guys drafted this year may not be instant successes, but they don't have to do much to be better than what was run out at the SB. One OT and one IOL could instantly change the outlook for line play. New guy, Allegretti, new guy, Rankin, NIang would take some time to jell but we could feel much better about the playoffs and the future if the Chiefs draft wisely. If LDT, Remmers, Wylie, etc. find their way back on the team, then the Chiefs have some backups. It might not be bad if they drafted even a third O-line if Meinerz or Moore dropped to the fifth. The Chiefs have eight picks in the first six rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, artsy said: How many 3rd and shorts did we convert? We tried..But couldn't do it. CEH was able to get yards against their Nickle and Dime defenses when we were in 2nd/3rd and longs.. Don't remember. How many third downs did CEH carry the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 What has me concerned is the idea that we trot out Wylie, Reiter and LDT and just draft a LT. There is a whole facet of our offense that has yet to be hardly touched and that is the run game and rb passing game. If our Oline was even avg we could have gashed that TB defense by running and passing to our backs, but because the Oline was so poor it didn't give time for routes to develop, or holes to run in. I wouldn't mind seeing 4-5 new faces starting on that Oline next year. Like y'all said let the young guys make mistakes and learn and then we have a good Oline for the next 4-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I do have a fear Andy will put his foot down to keep Reiter,Wiley as starters. oldtimer and sith13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 There may be one or two potential solid starters around here, but mostly too slow and too brittle. Every year I think that they will gel together after 4-5 weeks. Then half of them are hurt all the time and I say, "Oh, yeah. I remember now." Its like getting back with an old girl friend. Get some talent. I don't want to have crazy expectations, but a forth rounder would even class up this joint. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, DieHard said: There may be one or two potential solid starters around here, but mostly too slow and too brittle. Every year I think that they will gel together after 4-5 weeks. Then half of them are hurt all the time and I say, "Oh, yeah. I remember now." Its like getting back with an old girl friend. Get some talent. I don't want to have crazy expectations, but a forth rounder would even class up this joint. Funny but sadly true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 13 hours ago, jetlord said: Why does it have to be a long process? Guys drafted this year may not be instant successes, but they don't have to do much to be better than what was run out at the SB. One OT and one IOL could instantly change the outlook for line play. New guy, Allegretti, new guy, Rankin, NIang would take some time to jell but we could feel much better about the playoffs and the future if the Chiefs draft wisely. If LDT, Remmers, Wylie, etc. find their way back on the team, then the Chiefs have some backups. It might not be bad if they drafted even a third O-line if Meinerz or Moore dropped to the fifth. The Chiefs have eight picks in the first six rounds. Definitely need to play the numbers game with the OL. Grab two solid guys to start and add another one early on the 3rd day to compete for a starting job. Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I do agree that we need to invest in the line but my queston is will Andy start 2 guys that have no starting nfl experience at the tackle position. Niang may start at RT and even though he isn't a rook might as well be as i don't think he was even allowed to be around the team this year. I don't think Andy will start 2 tackles with no experience. I would bet their will be a vet at one of the OT positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Okiechief1 said: I do agree that we need to invest in the line but my queston is will Andy start 2 guys that have no starting nfl experience at the tackle position. Niang may start at RT and even though he isn't a rook might as well be as i don't think he was even allowed to be around the team this year. I don't think Andy will start 2 tackles with no experience. I would bet their will be a vet at one of the OT positions. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 23 hours ago, Troyofoc said: I do have a fear Andy will put his foot down to keep Reiter,Wiley as starters. Why do you have fear? Have you seen anyone about this? I know some professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 19 hours ago, DieHard said: Then half of them are hurt all the time and I say, "Oh, yeah. I remember now." Its like getting back with an old girl friend. ♥️👺😩😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Okiechief1 said: I do agree that we need to invest in the line but my queston is will Andy start 2 guys that have no starting nfl experience at the tackle position. Niang may start at RT and even though he isn't a rook might as well be as i don't think he was even allowed to be around the team this year. I don't think Andy will start 2 tackles with no experience. I would bet their will be a vet at one of the OT positions. I wouldn't mind a vet chasing a ring. However if the idea of a vet is someone like Reiter or Wylie then any pick we pass up is a huge waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I can see Andy keeping Reiter, unfortunately. But if Wylie and Remmers are starters.... I don’t care how fatman a linemen Andy may have been, he is moronic sometimes with unfounded loyalty over performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Can we actually afford any of these guys? One would hope WRs would love a chance to play with Mahomes. But I wonder if internal preferences on locations and money will trump all other stuff. Unless the person wants to chase a ring, will they always pick money over that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: Why do you have fear? Have you seen anyone about this? I know some professionals. My bad didn't know I should of clarified my fear with chiefs decisions and my own life are entirely on different ends of the spectrum. Fmbl2187 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said: Why do you have fear? Have you seen anyone about this? I know some professionals. I don't think prostitutes will really help the situation. Or maybe they will. What do I know, I'm not a professional. Fmbl2187, oldtimer and West 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,209 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Okiechief1 said: I do agree that we need to invest in the line but my queston is will Andy start 2 guys that have no starting nfl experience at the tackle position. Niang may start at RT and even though he isn't a rook might as well be as i don't think he was even allowed to be around the team this year. I don't think Andy will start 2 tackles with no experience. I would bet their will be a vet at one of the OT positions. You may be right, but it's not all about this season. It's about building a line that will run block and protect Mahomes for the next five years If the Chiefs draf a n OT in the first and IOL in the third, they might both start or if the team finds a vet OT for a year on a ring chasing deal, then okay, they have a little more experience next season. We have to assume that Fisher and Schwartz won't be back this fall. Same with Osemele Anything from them would just help the process of instilling a new line for the longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 hours ago, xen said: I don't think prostitutes will really help the situation. Or maybe they will. What do I know, I'm not a professional. I always knew you were an amateur. sith13 and xen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Okiechief1 said: I do agree that we need to invest in the line but my queston is will Andy start 2 guys that have no starting nfl experience at the tackle position. Niang may start at RT and even though he isn't a rook might as well be as i don't think he was even allowed to be around the team this year. I don't think Andy will start 2 tackles with no experience. I would bet their will be a vet at one of the OT positions. Really? He had no problem starting Wylie and Remmers in the biggest game. They're vets, let's resign them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Palangi said: Really? He had no problem starting Wylie and Remmers in the biggest game. They're vets, let's resign them.... Remmers played very well for us this year except obviously in the one game where he had no business being at left tackle. Remmers would be a good resigning. He just needs to be a backup swing RT/OG. Frankly I thought he was trash when we signed him but he did surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 8 hours ago, xen said: Remmers played very well for us this year except obviously in the one game where he had no business being at left tackle. Remmers would be a good resigning. He just needs to be a backup swing RT/OG. Frankly I thought he was trash when we signed him but he did surprise me. I agree on Remmers. But like you said as depth only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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