xen 1,010,220 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: good point..just seemed in the few games I saw of the Colts he was more of a Clark than the old school Houston I was used to seeing Well Clarks had 22 sacks the last 2 years with postseason. Old school Houston is a myth. 2014 made people think he was an elite pass rusher but history has proven that incorrect. The career stats for Clark and Houston are very similiar except Clark murders Houston with postseason stats. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, xen said: Well Clarks had 22 sacks the last 2 years with postseason. Old school Houston is a myth. 2014 made people think he was an elite pass rusher but history has proven that incorrect. The career stats for Clark and Houston are very similiar except Clark murders Houston with postseason stats. So would you be a fan of signing him in the cheap? I would guess at this point he would be ok ring chasing. He's made almost $95 million in his career. He's always been a well rounded player. I feel he'd be an upgrade to Kpass and Okafor. But I think one of our cheerleaders may be an upgrade to those 2. Can you see a 2/10 type deal for him? Draft a mid rd player to groom behind him and spell him at times. Resign Taco on a 1 yr dirt cheap deal. To me that would be a positional upgrade at DE. But it may only be marginal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, sith13 said: Houston at 32 years old sounds like a good matchup to me. Not sure if would come back due to being cut the last time around but if he wants a ring to an already rich career then it could make a lot of sense. He has been productive with the Colts as well. Damn I'm starting to warm up to a cheap contract Justin Houston! COME HOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Chief 1,092 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I think there was a lot of bad blood between Houston and the Chiefs after his release...Houston was not happy at all. I doubt he'd come back. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 It is hard to know if a guy will sell himself short for a ring. I suspect these guys all get overpayed. You’d bring anyone in at league vet minimum plus bonus options with their skill. Houston is probably only one that will not get way over paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Pass on Houston. Dude got paid a ridiculous amount of money here and was a total no show in the playoffs and whose contract crippled the team for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Lamardirts said: Pass on Houston. Dude got paid a ridiculous amount of money here and was a total no show in the playoffs and whose contract crippled the team for years. Yeah he probably should have offered himself a more team friendly deal. reesebobby and xen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 52 minutes ago, Joe_Chief said: I think there was a lot of bad blood between Houston and the Chiefs after his release...Houston was not happy at all. I doubt he'd come back. Agree, I don't think that he would want to pass up a bigger contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said: So would you be a fan of signing him in the cheap? I would guess at this point he would be ok ring chasing. He's made almost $95 million in his career. He's always been a well rounded player. I feel he'd be an upgrade to Kpass and Okafor. But I think one of our cheerleaders may be an upgrade to those 2. Can you see a 2/10 type deal for him? Draft a mid rd player to groom behind him and spell him at times. Resign Taco on a 1 yr dirt cheap deal. To me that would be a positional upgrade at DE. But it may only be marginal. I'd take Houston on a cheap vet exception contract. Problem is he'd only take that IF he's ring chasing. Doubt it. West 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Iluvhouse24 said: Yeah he probably should have offered himself a more team friendly deal. I was referring to him having any ill will towards an organization that paid him 100 million for 3 garbage years. He wasn’t a leader and he had to be motivated by a backup trash DT. That isn’t what we need around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, xen said: I'd take Houston on a cheap vet exception contract. Problem is he'd only take that IF he's ring chasing. Doubt it. His playoff performances suggests he checks out in big games...maybe Spags can get the best out of him. He needs to want a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: I was referring to him having any ill will towards an organization that paid him 100 million for 3 garbage years. He wasn’t a leader and he had to be motivated by a backup trash DT. That isn’t what we need around here. who be that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lamardirts said: I was referring to him having any ill will towards an organization that paid him 100 million for 3 garbage years. He wasn’t a leader and he had to be motivated by a backup trash DT. That isn’t what we need around here. Well fuck em then. Olivier Vernon? Lamardirts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Joe_Chief said: I think there was a lot of bad blood between Houston and the Chiefs after his release...Houston was not happy at all. I doubt he'd come back. His cap number was insane. They really had no choice. If he was butt hurt, then he does not own a calculator. oldtimer, qnet and West 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I wish we would have held onto Ogbah and let Okafor go. I know Ogbah was a free agent, but he showed me more that the others. Kpass is a backup. I would take him back on the cheap, but would not start him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 44 minutes ago, DieHard said: I wish we would have held onto Ogbah and let Okafor go. I know Ogbah was a free agent, but he showed me more that the others. Kpass is a backup. I would take him back on the cheap, but would not start him. Had me until you said bring kpass back. Iluvhouse24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: who be that? Was it not Justin Hamilton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, DieHard said: His cap number was insane. They really had no choice. If he was butt hurt, then he does not own a calculator. Ya I looked back and he had a $21.1M cap hit...OUCH Chiefs did have about $7M in dead money but still saved about $15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Lamardirts said: Had me until you said bring kpass back. Got to have starters and backups. I don’t really care if they bring him back or not, just saying I don’t think he gets much interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Really is a lot of "possible" cheap vet pass rushers out there this offseason: JJ Watt Clowney Houston Von Miller Melvin Ingram Kerrigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,686 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lamardirts said: Was it not Justin Hamilton? no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes4six! 968 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Not a edge rusher but as possible depth. Allen Baily released by falcons. He made some plays for us and in 2018 had 6 sacks. I always like baily. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Lamardirts said: Was it not Justin Hamilton? Yep It was against the Ravens and Justin Hamilton a backup challenged Houston. Told him he needed to see the same energy in the game as what he sees during the week. Told him you're the leader you need to take over and told him do your job. It took that for Houston to play like he was capable of. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Okiechief1 said: Yep It was against the Ravens and Justin Hamilton a backup challenged Houston. Told him he needed to see the same energy in the game as what he sees during the week. Told him you're the leader you need to take over and told him do your job. It took that for Houston to play like he was capable of. Yep. Ultra talented guy but winning in the nfl is more than talent. That group talent wise was very talented but mentally weak. Frank Clark might not get as many sacks or pressures but he plays the run better and most importantly he is a DAWG and holds himself and that D accountable. I don't hate Houston, I hate that knee injury happened to him because he was peaking on an elite plane before the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,598 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Panthers released a few. They only have their Center signed on the O line and were up against the cap badly. Anyone know if the other o line? Article expects them to use tag on their RT if they do. The release of Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kawann Short on Wednesday and of defensive end Stephen Weatherly, safety Tre Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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