Spfdchiefsfan 621 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Man, that is actually hard. I would rank them like this: 1. Joe-Just because he is fucking Joe Montana! 2. Trent 2A. Alex 3. Whoever the 4th one is. It looks like Cassel, and if that's the case, he shouldn't even be pictured KC Warpaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mex said: Who else in that group took us to an afc championship? One we could have won had a certain running back held on to a perfectly thrown football. Oops! I read the question wrong. I though you were comparing Montana with Mahomes. Montana was the best QB in the SB era. Mahomes will catch him if he wins a couple more SBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 Question on twitter: "Is Patrick Mahomes a top 5 all time NFL QB?" If not, who are the 5 that are ahead of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, azchief21 said: Question on twitter: "Is Patrick Mahomes a top 5 all time NFL QB?" If not, who are the 5 that are ahead of him? until proven other wise I'd say not necessarily on order TB12 Payton Manning Montana Horse Face TB12 Bradshaw amd I think I'd throw Favre, Staubach, Johnny U and or Namath in there for discussion as possibilities stats alone dont tell the whole story because of Rule changes but Patrick is a hard charger to be the baby goat. I dont see anyone beating out TB12 in my life time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, jetlord said: Oops! I read the question wrong. I though you were comparing Montana with Mahomes. Montana was the best QB in the SB era. Mahomes will catch him if he wins a couple more SBs. No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 hours ago, oldtimer said: until proven other wise I'd say not necessarily on order TB12 Payton Manning Montana Horse Face TB12 Bradshaw amd I think I'd throw Favre, Staubach, Johnny U and or Namath in there for discussion as possibilities stats alone dont tell the whole story because of Rule changes but Patrick is a hard charger to be the baby goat. I dont see anyone beating out TB12 in my life time I don't think anyone is catching TB12. It's all an interesting discussion, but I honestly don't care if Mahomes will be viewed as the greatest, just glad the Chiefs drafted him. Manning is one of my favorites. Don't care that he didn't win as many rings, I just like the way he played and how smart he was, When it's all said and done, Mahomes will be up there. Were he will be placed in history is unknown, because we're living it right now, which is cool. Hope I'm around to see him get inducted into the HOF. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 Probably all of us: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 hours ago, oldtimer said: until proven other wise I'd say not necessarily on order TB12 Payton Manning Montana Horse Face TB12 Bradshaw amd I think I'd throw Favre, Staubach, Johnny U and or Namath in there for discussion as possibilities stats alone dont tell the whole story because of Rule changes but Patrick is a hard charger to be the baby goat. I dont see anyone beating out TB12 in my life time Not sure we can go on SB wins alone. Unitas was great but in a different era. Same with Starr, Otto Graham, Tittle. Marino never won a SB and only got to one. If the question was which QB would you pick if the rest of the team was good and a QB was all that was missing, I'd probably go with Montana over Brady. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 7 hours ago, jetlord said: Not sure we can go on SB wins alone. . that's where I was going in my evaluation. SB's dont tell the whole story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 hours ago, jetlord said: If the question was which QB would you pick if the rest of the team was good and a QB was all that was missing, I'd probably go with Montana over Brady. I'd go with Mahomes over both... and I'm not homering... he is a cut above both of them in QB skills. Takes an entire team to win a SB... and it takes a great organization to win multiple SBs, let alone as many as Joe and TB12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post azchief21 5,278 Posted February 4, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 Bryan Cook has some upside: mex, Spfdchiefsfan, oldtimer and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, mex said: I'd go with Mahomes over both... and I'm not homering... he is a cut above both of them in QB skills. Takes an entire team to win a SB... and it takes a great organization to win multiple SBs, let alone as many as Joe and TB12 You're probably right. If Mahomes had the team that Montana had in SFO or Brady in his earlier years the team would be nearly unstoppable. qnet and mex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,597 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, jetlord said: You're probably right. If Mahomes had the team that Montana had in SFO or Brady in his earlier years the team would be nearly unstoppable. Mahomes with a top rated defense would kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, jetlord said: You're probably right. You just HAD to insert 'probably' in there, didn't you. oldtimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, mex said: You just HAD to insert 'probably' in there, didn't you. Don't want the brewmeister to become over confident mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, jetlord said: Don't want the brewmeister to become over confident I'm no longer a brewmeister. I'm Chief Quality Control Officer and Head Janitor. It's all about qualifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaroyal 87 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 16 hours ago, mex said: I'm no longer a brewmeister. I'm Chief Quality Control Officer and Head Janitor. It's all about qualifications. Did you get that candy bar wrapper that Scott Pioli was so upset about? mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Warpaint 3,234 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 8:45 AM, oldtimer said: that's where I was going in my evaluation. SB's dont tell the whole story but that is what everyone uses as a benchmark mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,684 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, KC Warpaint said: but that is what everyone uses as a benchmark Everyone?? ok is that just wins or appearances.. if the latter in order TB12 in 6 Elway ..5 Montana, Bradshaw, Staubach, Manning and Kelly all with 4 So he tied for 8th with 5 other QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: Everyone?? ok is that just wins or appearances.. if the latter in order TB12 in 6 Elway ..5 Montana, Bradshaw, Staubach, Manning and Kelly all with 4 So he tied for 8th with 5 other QBs It's SB wins. You can't put Joe Montana in the same group as Jim Kelly Horseface only has 2 wins out of 5 Big Joe 4-0 (Superstar) Bradshaw 4-0 (Superstar, thanks to a great defense) Roger the Dodger 2-2 Manning 2-2 Patrick needs to win this week and he'll be among the top QBs at 2-1. If we lose, he'll be 1-2 which puts pressure to win more and get on the positive side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,207 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, mex said: Patrick needs to win this week and he'll be among the top QBs at 2-1. If we lose, he'll be 1-2 which puts pressure to win more and get on the positive side. There will always be pressure to win more. Mahomes has set the bar high in KC and the team is generally young. But I would contend that five straight AFCCGs and three SB appearances already makes a successful career and more is just icing on the cake. Hopefully, Mahomes wins several more SBs and plays for 18-20 seasons while setting all kinds of records. With four other younger QBs in the AFC with superb skills, it isn't realistic to expect the Chiefs to dominate every year even if they are the best team. The Cincy loss last year shows what can happen in any one game and it takes at least three to win it all. mex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, jetlord said: There will always be pressure to win more. Mahomes has set the bar high in KC and the team is generally young. But I would contend that five straight AFCCGs and three SB appearances already makes a successful career and more is just icing on the cake. Hopefully, Mahomes wins several more SBs and plays for 18-20 seasons while setting all kinds of records. With four other younger QBs in the AFC with superb skills, it isn't realistic to expect the Chiefs to dominate every year even if they are the best team. The Cincy loss last year shows what can happen in any one game and it takes at least three to win it all. I don't want Patrick to end up like horseface, at 2-5... because he's better than horseface. You're right about it being hard to get to the SB even when you're damned good... which is why we need to win NOW. I'd like for Patrick to go to 2-1 immediately... if anything just to shut up the burrow, allen and hebert people This would put Patrick at the level he deserves, and shut up the naysayers Anything after this is gravy... but we need this one Joe_Chief, artsy, oldtimer and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 Most my friends are pretty supportive of me with the Chiefs success. They know what I've been through since childhood. But I've got some haters here in AZ. Even had a guy (Cowboys fan desperately seeking relevance) try to tell me Mahomes is a system QB. I have to tell you our continued success is creating some envy out there. 5 hosted Chiefs invitationals in a row, 3 SBs in 4 years. Superstar QB that keeps proving them wrong. LJ is better. Allen is better. Burrow is better. He'll do nothing without Tyreek. Burrowhead. Mayors, etc. And I love it. And when the smoke clears after Sunday, KC will be hosting the draft 🤣😂🤣 mex and artsy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,581 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 awesomeness artsy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 14 hours ago, mex said: awesomeness HELLS YEAH! Now, let's do it ONE MORE TIME!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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